Film on Windows Worse than analogs!

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Lana79

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I don't drive that much (mostly working from home, and when I work at client's office it's half hour tops), but when traveling (5+ hour ride), I need to wipe my windows at least once.

Back in the smoking days, the deposits were different, but equally annoying. I found that there are some wet wipes for car windows cleaning that do the trick, or simply get any sort with disinfectant/alcohol, but avoid the ones with moisturizers, etc. I have no idea about the brand, nor it would be useful for you since I live in Serbia, but I'm sure you'll be able to find something in car supplies section, next to air fresheners etc.
 

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I do get more film on my truck windows with 50/50 than I did with cigars or pipes, and they fog worse. The huge difference is the paper towels are still white now when I clean the windows... instead of dark brown tar.

I actually laughed a little the first time I cleaned my car windows and realized the paper towels didn't get all brown and gunky...
 

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I actually took our 2012 Terrain into the dealer to see if the heating system was malfunctioning. The windows just wouldn't defog when it was crispy cold up here a couple weeks ago. The windshield had a fog film around the outer edge and both driver and passenger windows were so bad that when the sun was low in the sky you couldn't see through them. It baffled the dealer that they flashed the computer and did somesorta software update. I came home, cleaned all the windows with a microfiber cloth and the fog hasn't come back. The cloth wasn't out of the ordinary dirty but I did comment to my wife that it could be the ecigs and she just laughed at me but reading this thread substantiates my theory.
YES your vapor does fog the windows especially on nasty cold days and the fog just doesn't go away untill you wipe it clean.
 

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Yup... I didn't have a problem with the film on the windows until the temperature dropped. The fogging from my breath doesn't go away no matter how high I crank up the defroster. Trying to wipe it off with a dry towel just smears it around and every subsequent exhale just builds up even more. I've had t break out the Windex twice this month alone.

Try turning on the AC (with the heat still up of course). The AC will remove the moisture from inside the car. :facepalm:
 

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Try turning on the AC (with the heat still up of course). The AC will remove the moisture from inside the car. :facepalm:

My truck runs the AC compressor automatically on defrost... as long as it's above 50ºF outside. I think most late model vehicles do that.

It may not be the vaping at all. New cars will film windows for quite a while.

Yes, they will. My truck's over 12 years old though and vaping 50/50 still does it.
 

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Nah. More clouds = more film. Higher VG = more film, etc.

Also, New cars (purchased within 2-3 years) will still off-gas. That new car smell comes from the oils in the plastics in the car. Even when the smell dissipates the plastics will continue to off-gas for another year or so. It happens with every modern car.

High VG liquid will do it.
 

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Try turning on the AC (with the heat still up of course). The AC will remove the moisture from inside the car. :facepalm:

Yeah, I'm aware of that trick, unfortunately though, it's not just moisture from exhaled breath steaming up the windshield. Ordinary water vapor from your breath can easily be wiped away with a dry towel, leaving the windshield cleaner than before it steamed up... what we're talking about here is a deposit of PG/VG that condenses on a cold windshield along with the usual water vapor. The H2O does evaporate with the defroster/AC combo set on high with heat on, the PG/VG stays behind leaving a cloudy, milky residue behind that takes more effort to remove than a quick wipe of a dry cloth.
As I stated, I didn't have this issue at all during the warmer months but it is an annoyance during the cold months.
 

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Yeah, I'm aware of that trick, unfortunately though, it's not just moisture from exhaled breath steaming up the windshield. Ordinary water vapor from your breath can easily be wiped away with a dry towel, leaving the windshield cleaner than before it steamed up... what we're talking about here is a deposit of PG/VG that condenses on a cold windshield along with the usual water vapor. The H2O does evaporate with the defroster/AC combo set on high with heat on, the PG/VG stays behind leaving a cloudy, milky residue behind that takes more effort to remove than a quick wipe of a dry cloth.
As I stated, I didn't have this issue at all during the warmer months but it is an annoyance during the cold months.

Thanks! That's good to know.

I always have a roll of paper towels in my car. Guess I need to start carrying glass cleaner too.
 

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Back when I smoked heavily and rode in other people's cars where I couldn't smoke, & didnt smoke, my side of the window would be an ugly yellow smeary mess. It always embarrassed me. That was my normal exhale stuff! Yuck.

Vapor doesn't, hasn't, left a mess yet, & I enjoy exhaling into the window & watching it spread & dissipate. One flavor, 50/50, heavy cappuccino left a film, but that was the only heavy on Flavors I ever ordered.

This is worth keeping an eye on. Maybe we can come up with a new best seller, "exhale exercises for the inhalers of anything", including smog.
 

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I don't know that it is all due to smoking or vaping. My mom has never smoked nor allowed it in her vehicles and she gets that buildup on her windshield. Of course it was never as bad as mine when I smoked. I have yet to notice anything in my car from vaping.

It just happens from us being in them, driving with the windows down and stuff in the air, and just stuff getting past the cabin air filter. I use to detail cars for some extra money, and it's completely normal. A lot of people would be surprised if they only took the time to clean the inside of the window. :)
 

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Yeah, I'm aware of that trick, unfortunately though, it's not just moisture from exhaled breath steaming up the windshield. Ordinary water vapor from your breath can easily be wiped away with a dry towel, leaving the windshield cleaner than before it steamed up... what we're talking about here is a deposit of PG/VG that condenses on a cold windshield along with the usual water vapor. The H2O does evaporate with the defroster/AC combo set on high with heat on, the PG/VG stays behind leaving a cloudy, milky residue behind that takes more effort to remove than a quick wipe of a dry cloth.
As I stated, I didn't have this issue at all during the warmer months but it is an annoyance during the cold months.

Totally agree. It wasn't a problem in warmer weather, but since it's gotten really cold in the last month, the windshield needs cleaning every few days. This car is way too old to blame any outgassing.
 
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