First vape related death

[Baditude]

Nothing in life is totally safe 100% of the time.

I agree. I guess my point being that a lot of folks believe if they are using recommended batteries in regulated mod, they don't have to worry about something going terribly wrong. But electronics can fail. The odds of something going terribly wrong in a poorly designed mechanical mod go up exponentually.

 

[r055co]

I agree. I guess my point being that a lot of folks believe if they are using recommended batteries in regulated mod, they don't have to worry about something going terribly wrong. But electronics can fail. The odds of something going terribly wrong in a poorly designed mechanical mod go up exponentually.

Electronics fail, that's what they do. I feel much safer on Mech's than I do on regulated Mod's because I'm responsible for my own safety and don't depend on a device made in a factory paying slave wages

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[Myk]

Electronics fail, that's what they do. I feel much safer on Mech's than I do on regulated Mod's because I'm responsible for my own safety and don't depend on a device made in a factory paying slave wages

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"Electronics fail" is the worst justification for feeling safe on a mech. Coils and buttons are part of the circuit, they also fail. I've had a coil short shut off my eGo batteries (long ago). Without the electronics the the battery would've been shorted.
If a coil shorts the electronics save you, not so on a mech. If the button gets pushed the electronics save you, not so on a mech. The electronics failing in such a manner to be the cause of a short making the battery go thermal is highly unlikely except maybe the charging circuit.

 

[r055co]

"Electronics fail" is the worst justification for feeling safe on a mech. Coils and buttons are part of the circuit, they also fail. I've had a coil short shut off my eGo batteries (long ago). Without the electronics the the battery would've been shorted.
If a coil shorts the electronics save you, not so on a mech. If the button gets pushed the electronics save you, not so on a mech. The electronics failing in such a manner to be the cause of a short making the battery go thermal is highly unlikely except maybe the charging circuit.

Really? So shorts don't happen on Regulated Mod's? Electronic's failing how can they protect eh?

Contrary to the hype if a coil shorts you can instantly tell it's a coil short which you just release the button. Now if it's a dead short due to things like battery wrapping's and what not it's your own fault. Regulated Mod's bring a sense of false security. Being a Mech user you must be aware of the basics like battery safety. Like I said I feel much safer on a Mech due to I'm responsible for my own safety. I don't put my safety in the hands of someone working in a sweatshop for slave wages.

 

[r055co]

"Electronics fail" is the worst justification for feeling safe on a mech. Coils and buttons are part of the circuit, they also fail. I've had a coil short shut off my eGo batteries (long ago). Without the electronics the the battery would've been shorted.
If a coil shorts the electronics save you, not so on a mech. If the button gets pushed the electronics save you, not so on a mech. The electronics failing in such a manner to be the cause of a short making the battery go thermal is highly unlikely except maybe the charging circuit.

Oh and first off test your build for shorts before you put it on the Mech. Also switch's, the switch on a Mech is it either makes contact or not

 

[ScottP]

Really? So shorts don't happen on Regulated Mod's? Electronic's failing how can they protect eh?

You are correct that eventually electronics will fail. However, you are wrong that they cause shorts when they do. The reality is when an electronic component fails it 99.9999% of the time causes an OPEN, which is the opposite of a short and means 0 electricity will pass through. This is why when any electronic device that stays plugged in all the time fails it doesn't burn your house down. The device just stops working. If what you say was true then there would an exponentially higher number of house fires from failed TV's, Radios, Computers, Appliances, etc. Of course there are those rare cases that a failed component causes a fire, but it is rare.

 

[ScottP]

Contrary to the hype if a coil shorts you can instantly tell it's a coil short which you just release the button

That doesn't always work, especially on fully mech buttons. If there is a short at the coil, when you press the button, there is a chance that there will be a spark where the button makes contact that can essentially ARC WELD the button closed. If this happens releasing the button is NOT going to break the connection.

 

[r055co]

That doesn't always work, especially on fully mech buttons. If there is a short at the coil, when you press the button, there is a chance that there will be a spark where the button makes contact that can essentially ARC WELD the button closed. If this happens releasing the button is NOT going to break the connection.

That's why you test every build before you put it on a Mech.

Like I said, I'm responsible for my own safety

 

[ScottP]

That's why you test every build before you put it on a Mech.

Like I said, I'm responsible for my own safety

That is fine and definitely your choice to make, but to claim that mechs are safer than regulated mods, is not only wrong, it's irresponsible IMHO.

 

[Asbestos4004]

A regulated mod is definitely safer for the majority of vapers. The majority of vapers wants to screw on a tank, fill it with juice, push a button and vape.

Mechs are for those of us who enjoy exploring how vaping works. Those of us who read up on battery safety, who know the limits of those batteries, who understand how to build within those limits responsibly, who understand how a mechanical mod works and who accept the fact that we'll have to do a certain amount of regular maintenance to keep those mods operating properly and safely. For us, regulated mods aren't safer ....nor are they more dangerous . They're just different mods.

 

[r055co]

That is fine and definitely your choice to make, but to claim that mechs are safer than regulated mods, is not only wrong, it's irresponsible IMHO.

Looks like you missed my statement

Electronics fail, that's what they do. I feel much safer on Mech's than I do on regulated Mod's because I'm responsible for my own safety and don't depend on a device made in a factory paying slave wages

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No claims just stating my opinion

 

[r055co]

A regulated mod is definitely safer for the majority of vapers. The majority of vapers wants to screw on a tank, fill it with juice, push a button and vape.

Mechs are for those of us who enjoy exploring how vaping works. Those of us who read up on battery safety, who know the limits of those batteries, who understand how to build within those limits responsibly, who understand how a mechanical mod works and who accept the fact that we'll have to do a certain amount of regular maintenance to keep those mods operating properly and safely. For us, regulated mods aren't safer .

Exactly

 

[Myk]

Really? So shorts don't happen on Regulated Mod's? Electronic's failing how can they protect eh?

That's not at all what I said. Shorts happen, the electronics safeguard if it does.
The electronics themselves causing the short that sends the battery into thermal meltdown is highly unlikely. Whatever fries will fry and be dead.

Oh and first off test your build for shorts before you put it on the Mech. Also switch's, the switch on a Mech is it either makes contact or not

That is not the only way coils short. Perfectly fine builds can and do short later. Ecig equipment has come a long way since I've had it happen but mechanical objects also fail. If they didn't I wouldn't have an income.

Your mech switch makes unintended contact what happens 10 seconds later? It's still making contact.
My mech's switch isn't going to accidentally fire, as long as I lock it. It might be user error to not lock it but that doesn't mean safer, just who gets the blame.

Electronics fail is a good reason for mechs. I have a mech in case of vapocolypse and I'm down to my last working mod that will be it. I've had great luck with everything ecig continuing to work but it doesn't bruise my ego to admit what I like is most likely to not work at some point.

Electronics fail should not be part of feeling safe (except with charging but you'll need some kind of charging and they all have the potential to fail). Electronics are the actual lithium battery safety protocol.
You can say you accept the blame if something happens but it's actually building something for lithium batteries without the safety electronics that is at fault.
A mech with a fuse, OK, but that's electronics that fail.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Just a thought....and I'm as guilty as any....but it seems like a great topic for a different thread. Seems like arguing mech vs regulated in this particular thread is falling short of being in good taste .

 

[r055co]

Just a thought....and I'm as guilty as any....but it seems like a great topic for a different thread. Seems like arguing mech vs regulated in this particular thread is falling short of being in good taste .

Agreed

 

[bhayes]

I read an article about a vaping pen that exploded in a bathroom and there was blood on the sink and the poor guys face had burns, but this sounds to me like a case of a person vaping (and charging his vape device) while washing and shaving in the bathroom and everyone knows you don't connect most electronic devices to an outlet when around water like in a bathroom. He was lucky, a newspaper article said a teenager died when her i phone fell in the tub while she was taking a bath and her i phone dropped into the tub while she was charging it