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Not really. You can take a 5 gal bucket of gasoline, drop a match in it and the match more than likely will go out. If air conditions are just right it will start a fire on the top layer, but it will NOT explode. Gasoline has to be aerosolized (turned into fumes) and have oxygen present in order to actually combust. This is the purpose of the carburetor or fuel injectors in engines, to aerosolize and enrich (mix with the right amount of air) the fuel so it can properly combust in the engine.
Modern gas tanks are sealed (gas caps must pass a vacuum seal test to pass inspections now). This means when you fill the tank and then start using it there is very little air in the tank so even the vapors cannot combust inside the tank (except in movies of course). If anything a nearly empty (so all that's left is fumes), unsealed tank would be what would be dangerous, not the full tank.
Maybe so, but I'll bet you can't set an electric car battery on fire at all with a mere match.
Sure I can. Just throw it on the seat or the floorboard.
I remember hearing about Tesla pushing out an over the air update to their cars after some natural disaster, temporarily allowing the cars to run farther on a single charge, which I guess means raising the voltage the batteries charge to, lowering the cutoff voltage, or both. I hope there's a second layer of circuitry that's doing its own sanity checks on battery voltage and that is totally isolated from anything that has a network connection.
French atmospheric shot Licorne 03/07/1970 at Mururoa yield 914 kilotones. Cmon Scott, no 18650 is capable of yields this high.It would cause a chain reaction and.....
It would likely begin a chain reaction. Keep in mind, the battery packs used in these machines are connected to BMS (battery manangement systems) designed to prevent this from happening. The videos prove you can't make Li-Ion batteries totally safe 100% of the time.
Battery pack with BMS circuit board
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We did not get a Ford Escape with the little green "eco leaf" on it as a) I could tell the husband was disappointed in its performance (LOL, I let him buy the sterioded version that was V6) and b) I owned 0% desire to replace the battery in two years when it died. It would have happened, and it probably would have been around 2K.
Plus, early adopter of technology.... .Musk may or may not be a genius, I'm not sure, but I sincerely NEVER want a car with self driving technology and I'm not quite sure how the insane, intense amount of batteries needing replacement is all that much better or not, compared to what it's like to make and use Li ion batteries, etc..
I don't know a ton about the process other than it's dirty. It kind of makes me think David Foster Wallace was eerily prophetic about the mountainous, semi-humanoid wasteland in the middle of Canada that no one wanted to be dealing with.
Guess soon it may be the Year of the Depend Undergarment, indeed.
I kinda don't like using batteries at all but they're just so USEFUL. Hence, the problem with technology, generally.
Anna
Plus, early adopter of technology.... .Musk may or may not be a genius, I'm not sure, but I sincerely NEVER want a car with self driving technology and I'm not quite sure how the insane, intense amount of batteries needing replacement is all that much better or not, compared to what it's like to make and use Li ion batteries, etc..
I don't know a ton about the process other than it's dirty. It kind of makes me think David Foster Wallace was eerily prophetic about the mountainous, semi-humanoid wasteland in the middle of Canada that no one wanted to be dealing with.
Guess soon it may be the Year of the Depend Undergarment, indeed.
I kinda don't like using batteries at all but they're just so USEFUL. Hence, the problem with technology, generally.
Anna
You really got on a roll there!
I am the opposite. I want EVERYONE in a self-driving vehicle. I am getting tired of having to constantly brake, swerve, and change lanes to avoid being hit by imbeciles who can't be bothered to take their face out of their cell phone long enough to drive to where they are going. Sometimes I feel like the LAST person on the road that is still actually watching where I am going. So yeah I see everyone with autonomous cars saving a lot of lives. Those sensors are going to pay a lot more attention than the imbeciles currently are.
Now, I NEVER want a battery powered car. Their range and charge times are horrible and batteries are way too expensive and bad for the environment. When they start making "Mr. Fusion" powered cars is when I will stop driving a gas powered car.
Battery pack with BMS circuit board
Can it subΩ?
It's funny ecigs are bad because of batteries, in spite of saving millions of cigarette filters tossed.
Electric cars are good and few who are worried about ecigs ask about making and disposing of all the batteries.
I don't drive enough for a battery car to be of any use. The batteries would waste away sitting in my driveway and the car would never have a charge when I wanted it. But it does look like a nice box mod.
I'm sometimes referred to as a fear mongerer because I sometimes post pics and links of batteries and mods resulting in fires or explosions. I do it (right or wrong) because so many people are ignorant of battery or mod safety practices. We had one member in this thread who was in disbelief that an 18650 battery could cause a fire or explosion so devastating as this incident.
No battery can be considered to be "safe". We vapers use Li-ion batteries not as they were designed to be used, but we do use them because they presently are the best option available to us. We need to respect the awesome power they have and learn to use safe battery practices to be as reasonably safe as we can be.
Mech mods in particular pose a problem for the uninformed user. Lacking electronic protection circuitry, they can be unintentionally dangerous to the uninformed or careless user. Mechanical mod designs leave much to be desired from a "safety perspective". Most mech manufacturers don't seem particularly concerned about adequate venting (ultimately leading to the story of this thread). Some users are more interested in creating huge clouds of vapor regardless of whether the gear they are using (or misusing) is safe.
No battery can be considered to be "safe". We vapers use Li-ion batteries not as they were designed to be used, but we do use them because they presently are the best option available to us. We need to respect the awesome power they have and learn to use safe battery practices to be as reasonably safe as we can be.
Mech mods in particular pose a problem for the uninformed user. Lacking electronic protection circuitry, they can be unintentionally dangerous to the uninformed or careless user. Mechanical mod designs leave much to be desired from a "safety perspective". Most mech manufacturers don't seem particularly concerned about adequate venting (ultimately leading to the story of this thread). Some users are more interested in creating huge clouds of vapor regardless of whether the gear they are using (or misusing) is safe.
Great... I'm using one in my mod as we speak. I didn't know...
On the topic of batteries, I find it ironic that (I'll bet) 100% of people who are freaking out about "e-cigs" exploding in someone's face or whatnot is using a cell phone and holding it to the side of their head (usually whilst driving). ... Just sayin'.
my most sincerest condolences go out to the family and friends of this individual. As you all can see I am from the Saint Pete Clearwater area and this is very close to home for me. It would not even be surprising if I had crossed paths with the individual at some point. But seriously is everybody surprised that the media is sensationalizing this event? Yes of course he was using an unregulated mechanical mod. Yes he was probably using it inappropriately. Yes it did send a fragment into his brain which probably didn't allow him to remove his physical being from the fire that occurred there after. Again it is no big surprise that the media has sensationalized it and made it out to be perhaps a bit more than it is. When was the last time you heard of somebody sustaining an injury in a motor vehicle which had a recall? No big surprise. Again my condolences go out to the family and friends of this person. Let's just learn from this horrible experience and move forward to be safer Vapors. God bless to all. May the force be with you.
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