Fogger V2...WOW

[UncHellMatt]

Yep, I found Todd's and the other posts about it in this thread. I've been considering using the silicone tape I have for sealing faucets, wrap the whole thing with a layer of that and see what happens. That or try to find a slightly thicker washer for the area at the coil deck.

Take a hard look at your 510 screw. If it looks to be leaning off center, take your deck apart. I also recommend not wasting your time adding another o-ring under that screw at the very bottom as per "Todd's review", it only masks and delays the real problem. If that screw is leaning, it means the air tube/disc assembly that it screws into is also leaning, which means that assembly will or already is shorting out against the underside of your coil deck as the whole thing gets sandwiched together.

 

[folkphys]

Yep, I found Todd's and the other posts about it in this thread. I've been considering using the silicone tape I have for sealing faucets, wrap the whole thing with a layer of that and see what happens. That or try to find a slightly thicker washer for the area at the coil deck.

either of those fixes may work, just be sure to leave a path for air flow.

 

[UncHellMatt]

Cripes that is SNUG. *grumbles*

either of those fixes may work, just be sure to leave a path for air flow.

 

[BobC]

@bobc. For some reason I can't quote your post. But I've never had a problem just filling through the fill hole. You actually take the cap off the glass part. Fill. Then put the fill screw in?

Did you or anybody else have problems just filling through the hole?

For me, when I fill through the screw hole, I always end up with a gurgle, with the cap off, never, just my experience

 

[bingo6104]

Replacement Fogger tanks are cheaper at Clouds of Vapor.

With shipping charges that is ridiculous.. flat rate up to 3oz is 1.69 first class. They charging like. 4.75

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[pizza2me]

For me, when I fill through the screw hole, I always end up with a gurgle, with the cap off, never, just my experience

Ok. I get gurgles the first few his but then it clears up

 

[pizza2me]

Hey! C'mon folks. I (and one other that was asking) are defintely not the only ones that have lost the coils screws are we?

Anybody found a replacement???? I'm going to try and stop by radio shack this weekend to see if I can find something. But, I'm not hopeful.

I only have one fogger in commission because I lost one screw out of each. Gotta stop trying to handle those dang tiny things when I'm drinking! HELP!

 

[folkphys]

I get a minor flood every time I fill or re-fill. Might be I should put the o-ring that goes around the build well. The flooding is never very much, just a few drops, and it can always be collected for re-use.

But it kinda bugs me.

After weeks of unyielding frustration, I finally took a good concentrated look at the pics of your Fogger setup on the other thread and it dawned on me that I was still using far too much cotton. I mean you've got the tiniest barely twisted wisp of a cotton ball in there. The picture itself was such a fine-grained close up that at first I only saw your wick's overall size relative to the coil deck and not how loose of a wisp it really was. Today i just left that picture up on my monitor for a while as I was completing various work-related tasks and really just avoiding messing with or vaping on the Fogger (because it has sucked, and not in the good way). I guess as an unfocused background image I was able to notice the difference between your wicks and mine was one of sheer density and not overall size. I had always tried to not squish and twist up my wicks too tightly, but I couldn't imagine being able to go much smaller - thus less dense - and not get a veritable deluge of wasted juice. But I guess that was the logical disconnect: I can't use less cotton for the same (or proper) sized wick. This was all to say thanks. I've been chugging on this thing pretty much nonstop for the last half hour - after re-wicking with the airiest wisp I could stomach - and I am amazed.

 

[zipflint]

Hey I am extremely happy to have been of some help!
And hey, you aren't the only one who's used too much cotton for the wick.
I rebuilt mine last night and used a little too much; getting lots of dry hits.
My temp fix is a hard primer pull every few puffs, but I'm on the verge of siphoning out
my juice and making a less-dense wick.

Just to reiterate the gist of this thread:
As long as your device is QC-issue-free, this thing is GREAT once you've put in some time
with it. I NEVER thought I'd have the patience for this, but I'm in a situation now where I spend a lot
of time waiting on phone calls (frequently with bad news) so I figure, why not solve this puzzle instead of
stew on things I can't control.

After weeks of unyielding frustration....... This was all to say thanks. I've been chugging on this thing pretty much nonstop for the last half hour - after re-wicking with the airiest wisp I could stomach - and I am amazed.

 

[UncHellMatt]

OK, working like a CHAMP.

2mm Ekowool, about 3" of 30g Kanthal (believe there's 8 wraps), roughly 2ohm. Perfectly awesome, though a few times I got a somewhat dry vape taste. A couple dry pulls and then... PLUMES. Vaping at 11w. Super tasty, nice big fluffy clouds, even from a juice that's 80/20. Next time I fill, I'll have at it with a 50/50.

EDIT: I think it's actually 10 wraps. Still, super tasty.

 

[zipflint]

Lookin' good there! I'm one of those who have the impulse to vape my rebuildables on mechanicals
so I'm always shooting for 1 Ohm or less. 0.6 is the sweet spot, but I've got a Trident clone with dual
micro coils that's around 0.4. It's for giggles, mostly.

 

[UncHellMatt]

I haven't delved into mech mods just yet, though I have my eye on a few.

Actually, after making this wrap, I started getting a few dry hits. Not entirely sure why. Since I have several 100ft spools of kanthal, I figured I'd have a go at a new one this morning. Wrapped much smaller (coiled around a 1/16th screwdriver, fired and pressed) wick around cotton from a cotton ball. Came in at 1.6ohm, and it's also vaping beautifully, though really not as thick, white vapor as I was getting off the Ekowool. Still, great flavor, and I'm getting the hang of wrapping this device.

 

[UncHellMatt]

OK... the Fogger has become both my favorite RBA and the bane of my existence. I've been trying different builds, and different wicking mats, and when the thing works well, it's absolutely beautiful, but when it doesn't...

Ekowool, I've tried 2.5mm and 3mm, since I'd been reading about how people will double over 2mm. The 3mm wouldn't have worked at all as it was much, much too thick, so I scrapped it. Got the 2.5 in there, and for the most part it's fine, but I have to trim the sides at an angle in order to let juice in. However, even after doing that, I'd frequently run into dry hits and have to close the air flow and give it a few draws without firing to saturate the wick. After several attempts at different trimming, I am not sure it draws liquid in fast enough to really work well on this for me.

Cotton can be about as tricky. A 1/16" micro coil was, at first, absolutely awesome, but it dried out and burnt to a crisp. Tried it again, thinning the ends more, and it leaked like mad. Tinkered with different thicknesses of both coil and wick, and so far I've found it to be the most finicky but when it's good, it's brilliant.

Decided I would try some 3mm silica wick I had laying about, and trimmed it as had the Ekowool. At first it was great, but then I started getting dry, foul tasting hits as I had with the Ekowool, so I went in and trimmed 3 strands from either end to JUST at the inside edge of the cup. It was BRILLIANT, but burned through juice at quite a rate. When I went to refill, though, after maybe a full day of perfection, suddenly it was like a week old baby: Spewing liquid from every orifice. I went in and pulled up some of the strands and made sure that they were more or less filling the slots, reassembled and now it's back to normal and producing ungodly clouds. I have it at 1.6Ω and vaping at 11 watts.

It's become a big love / hate relationship Still, at only $25 I can't complain too much. My RSST may be easier to coil and wick, but doesn't produce anything like this.

 

[Burnie]

OK... the Fogger has become both my favorite RBA and the bane of my existence. I've been trying different builds, and different wicking mats, and when the thing works well, it's absolutely beautiful, but when it doesn't...

It's become a big love / hate relationship

I agree, get it Right, and it's Great, get it wrong, well flooding, dry hits, etc. Love it, but Hate it.

Vape On

 

[DrMA]

Unfortunately, it's so much easier to get it wrong that it is to have it work right... But I do agree with you that the Fogger is quite capable on those rare occasions when it's set up just right.

 

[pizza2me]

OK... the Fogger has become both my favorite RBA and the bane of my existence. I've been trying different builds, and different wicking mats, and when the thing works well, it's absolutely beautiful, but when it doesn't...

Ekowool, I've tried 2.5mm and 3mm, since I'd been reading about how people will double over 2mm. The 3mm wouldn't have worked at all as it was much, much too thick, so I scrapped it. Got the 2.5 in there, and for the most part it's fine, but I have to trim the sides at an angle in order to let juice in. However, even after doing that, I'd frequently run into dry hits and have to close the air flow and give it a few draws without firing to saturate the wick. After several attempts at different trimming, I am not sure it draws liquid in fast enough to really work well on this for me.

Cotton can be about as tricky. A 1/16" micro coil was, at first, absolutely awesome, but it dried out and burnt to a crisp. Tried it again, thinning the ends more, and it leaked like mad. Tinkered with different thicknesses of both coil and wick, and so far I've found it to be the most finicky but when it's good, it's brilliant.

Decided I would try some 3mm silica wick I had laying about, and trimmed it as had the Ekowool. At first it was great, but then I started getting dry, foul tasting hits as I had with the Ekowool, so I went in and trimmed 3 strands from either end to JUST at the inside edge of the cup. It was BRILLIANT, but burned through juice at quite a rate. When I went to refill, though, after maybe a full day of perfection, suddenly it was like a week old baby: Spewing liquid from every orifice. I went in and pulled up some of the strands and made sure that they were more or less filling the slots, reassembled and now it's back to normal and producing ungodly clouds. I have it at 1.6Ω and vaping at 11 watts.

It's become a big love / hate relationship Still, at only $25 I can't complain too much. My RSST may be easier to coil and wick, but doesn't produce anything like this.

Dude and dudettes! I got it!! I was having the same troubles. Even tried the vertical/cotton coil. (Which i have working great in my kayfun clone) Worked decent most of the time but a little burnt taste here and there. I think because I talked such long draws.

I went back to ekowool like you. 2mm I think. Great for a few. Then dry burnt hits because it was being choked at the holes. I took it apart and pulled the eko out of the holes under the o-ring back into the chamber. Then I stuffed a little cotton under the eko thread ends/strands up against the holes then tapped/mushed the strands of eko down on and into the cotton. No cotton sticking out and no cotton touching coil. Keep working awesome!

The cotton sucks the juice into the chamber and feeds the eko that brings it to the coil. You get the saturation of cotton without having to worry about burning it. (Which I'm paranoid of in these inside builds)

Give it a shot and anybody that does let us know how it works for you or if I just got lucky this time

 

[seven]

Here's my setup nem with fogger v2 with 4 wraps 30g kanthal and cotton 1.3 ohm.

Does everyone keep the orings between the base and chimney? It leaks like crazy for me w/o the oring. No dry hits, but I every 7 or so drags I will have to take a few drags with afc closed to re saturate the cotton.



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[UncHellMatt]

Here's my setup nem with fogger v2 with 4 wraps 30g kanthal and cotton 1.3 ohm.


Does everyone keep the orings between the base and chimney? It leaks like crazy for me w/o the oring. No dry hits, but I every 7 or so drags I will have to take a few drags with afc closed to re saturate the cotton.



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OoooOOoooo... You know that's not a bad idea. I've been doing that more or less with my ProTank heads, taking off the flavor wicks and putting a strip of cotton on there (goodbye dry hits on thick liquid!). That's a great idea. The Ekowool was absolutely the best when it was fully saturated, really gave the best flavor. Right now I'm doing OK with the trimmed silica wick. I'm interested in trying some lower ohm builds. If I don't wind up with a mod for my bday (my GF has more or less hinted that's something I may be seeing), I'll have to pick one up and have at it. 1.6Ω has been working very nicely for now, but I'm itching to tinker.

 

[zipflint]

The only thing I can think of is maybe try using just a bit less cotton.
I don't even have mine twisted, but when it's dry and fluffy, it fills the coil.
That's what works best for me anyway. And I don't use the o-ring you're talking about.

Here's my setup nem with fogger v2 with 4 wraps 30g kanthal and cotton 1.3 ohm.

Does everyone keep the orings between the base and chimney? It leaks like crazy for me w/o the oring. No dry hits, but I every 7 or so drags I will have to take a few drags with afc closed to re saturate the cotton.



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[dwcraig1]

So after enlarging the wick slot with a 3.5 mm bit I was only able to get a couple of good hits before it headed towards dry so I thinned the walls on the outside of the wick slots. This Fogger is now on par if not better than any atomizer that I own (Ithaka's, Terminators, Kayfun's and even Aqua's at the same resistance). The air holes in the base and the center pin have also been enlarged.
0.9 Ω with 3 mm silica with short extra 3 mm silica piece on the inside of the coil.