From Newb to Beyond...

[VaporHead512]

I've been using 3ohm cartos. I get them new and they give me readings of 3.1 - 3.2ohm. I start at 4.7v then move up to 5.3v, then as the ohm decrease down to 2.9 or so after a week of non stop use, I decrease the voltage.

I don't understand how an atomizer can be used on a tank. I understand the cartomizer with holes in the bottom sucking the juice in, but not the atomizers. I'm sure it's simple but I'm not understanding it probably because I havent used it.

 

[recidivus]

Oh, the wicks run down into a tank drawing fluid up towards the coil. They're very specific, not just any atty. Also things like vivi-nova/stardust use wicks to draw fluid up to the coil.
The Zenesis 18650 PV - YouTube is a video of the Zenesis rebuildable. We is getting a bit off topic here

 

[rondasherrill]

Also sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between an atomizer tank and a cartomizer tank and which one would work best on my provari? Like I said earlier I like to vape between 4.7v - 5.3v, so which would be best?

It really depends on you... Personally, I can't stand cartomizers. Once I tasted juice from an atomizer for the first time, I realized how much I was actually tasting the filler in a cartomizer. However alot of people seem to believe that keeping a cartomizer soaking wet, i.e. carto tank, prevents that.

At the current time there are only 2 true atomizer tanks on the market, the Oddyseus, which has a mode where it can accept a 510 atomizer, and the Reactor tank, which works basically the same as carto tanks. THe atomizer has a hole punched in the side, allowing juice to flow in when you puff.

Rebuildable Tank Atomizers are great. You kinda have to do your homework on making wicks and coils though. With a rebuildable, you control the resistance of the atomizer by how you wrap the coil. The only real downside is that all the rebuildable tank atties(Vivi Nova's don't count, they are more like replaceable head tank atomizers) will leak to some degree if they are left on their side from the hole where the wick goes down into the tank.

 

[Paulette]

The only real downside is that all the rebuildable tank atties(Vivi Nova's don't count, they are more like replaceable head tank atomizers) will leak to some degree if they are left on their side from the hole where the wick goes down into the tank.

I got a rebuildable from the UK and it is just like this one from litecigsusa and it really does not leak . . . standing up or laying down. Been using it for about a month! I highly recommend this rebuildable!

Phoenix Rebuildable Tank Atomizer

 

[rondasherrill]

I got a rebuildable from the UK and it is just like this one from litecigsusa and it really does not leak . . . standing up or laying down. Been using it for about a month! I highly recommend this rebuildable!

Phoenix Rebuildable Tank Atomizer

To be fair that is not generally what is referred to when talking about a rebuildable tank atomizer... That one uses the old school tank cartridges. Whereas RBTA's usually have the tank full of juice under the wick/coil setup.

How good do those work? I mean is there is no flavor muting? I've always shied away from the tank cartridges because they muted the flavor pretty bad.

 

[Baditude]

rondasherrill, did you ever get the Atom Bomb? Anxious to get a report.

 

[rondasherrill]

rondasherrill, did you ever get the Atom Bomb? Anxious to get a report.

I just got it today... So far it's still breaking in. Apparently you have to vape a few mL through it at low voltage to coat the wick before you can crank it up. The draw is very airy, which is easily fixed. Aside from that, flavor and vapor are outstanding, even at low voltage. I'm using a 2.5ohm coil at 3.7v, and it's producing TONS of vapor. I'm normally a 10 watt person.

I'll report back in a few days.

 

[VaporHead512]

Cartomizers in a tank is just so easy. 3.2mL lasts me all day right now.

Can anyone talk me out of carto's? I can't be dripping 5 drops constantly...




Also, any idea why my battery keeps fully charging in under an hour? Not that I'm complaining because both of my batteries were dead right now, but that doesn't seem right, and I heard if they charge too fast it can be bad?

 

[rondasherrill]

Cartomizers in a tank is just so easy. 3.2mL lasts me all day right now.

Can anyone talk me out of carto's? I can't be dripping 5 drops constantly...




Also, any idea why my battery keeps fully charging in under an hour? Not that I'm complaining because both of my batteries were dead right now, but that doesn't seem right, and I heard if they charge too fast it can be bad?

Talk you out of cartos? How about, with cartos, you aren't tasting the pure flavor of your juice. The flavor is affected by the filler material in the carto... Aside from dripping, you can top feed, bottom feed, or use a tank atomizer.

Are you saying 18490's or 18650's are charging in 1 hour? What kind of charger are you using?

 

[VaporHead512]

I saw this picture in a thread somewhere and took a little screenshot of it because I thought it was awesome. Sorry the pic is so small, but I would love to know what this is and where I can buy these exact pieces to try.

Other than that, got any other specific suggestions, I mean just names of products off the top of your head that I can go research? I watched a review a few days ago on the reactor tank that said it was horrible about leakage so I kinda went away from that. And I don't think I'm quite ready to rebuild anything just yet.

Also, what is considered low resistance, standard resistance, high resistance? Provape tells me not to use low resistance anything on my Provari, so I've been shying away from making purchases on anything other than 3ohm cartomizers.


The 18490 is charging in give or take an hour. The 18650 takes about 2.5 hrs. Using the Tenergy tn270 charger from Provape.

 

[rondasherrill]

I saw this picture in a thread somewhere and took a little screenshot of it because I thought it was awesome. Sorry the pic is so small, but I would love to know what this is and where I can buy these exact pieces to try.

Other than that, got any other specific suggestions, I mean just names of products off the top of your head that I can go research? I watched a review a few days ago on the reactor tank that said it was horrible about leakage so I kinda went away from that. And I don't think I'm quite ready to rebuild anything just yet.

Also, what is considered low resistance, standard resistance, high resistance? Provape tells me not to use low resistance anything on my Provari, so I've been shying away from making purchases on anything other than 3ohm cartomizers.


The 18490 is charging in give or take an hour. The 18650 takes about 2.5 hrs. Using the Tenergy tn270 charger from Provape.

The thing in the picture is a diamond cut drip shield from Empiremods. Basically, you put your 510 atomizer on a 510-510 adapter, put that on your PV, then slide the drip shield down over that. Then, no more leaks. You can drip 6 or 7 drips, and it just leaks into the drip shield, which gets sucked back into the atomizer when you take a puff.

EDIT: The Tenergy on Provape is a 500mA charger... According to THIS it should take about 2.5 hours to charge the 18490, and about 5 hours to charge the 18650... I don't know if that is still the case for Provari users however, since it stops at 3.2v...

EDIT: LR is anything below 2ohms. SR is 2-3ohms, and HR is anything 3.5ohms or higher. Well, that's my general rule anyways. Everyone's version is slightly different, but usually not by much.

As far as cartomizers go, here's a product to check out: Platinum Punch Cartomizers
If you are going to use a cartomizer, might as well use the best right? Actually, the 801 Fusions are the undefined champion of cartomizers, but that would require using an 801-510 adapter...

If you are interested in trying 306's, check out the 306DCA by GoodsenseVapor. It can hold quite a bit of juice in it.

 

[VaporHead512]

I swear, I get more and more confused as I continue to read. I think I start figuring things out but nah I almost as confused as day 1.

I'm thinking about getting the pro-v cartomator ss, can anyone tell you about it? Should I get boge 2ohm, boge 3ohm, or dual coil 1.5ohm. Any opinions about this tank?

 

[Paulette]

To be fair that is not generally what is referred to when talking about a rebuildable tank atomizer... That one uses the old school tank cartridges. Whereas RBTA's usually have the tank full of juice under the wick/coil setup.

How good do those work? I mean is there is no flavor muting? I've always shied away from the tank cartridges because they muted the flavor pretty bad.

I have to say that I don't notice any flavor muting when compared with a vivi nova and I believe I get a lot of flavor with those. I use a stainless steel wick in the spike and the coil wrapped around silica; however, I've been told you can wrap the coil around some SS mesh and it works even better. I might try that next time I have to recoil!

 

[Baditude]

I swear, I get more and more confused as I continue to read. I think I start figuring things out but nah I almost as confused as day 1.

I'm thinking about getting the pro-v cartomator ss, can anyone tell you about it? Should I get boge 2ohm, boge 3ohm, or dual coil 1.5ohm. Any opinions about this tank?

I switched from Smoktek dual coils to the single coils about a month ago in all of my tanks that use that length of carto. I much prefer them now. I'm getting an easily recognized, moderate increase in battery duration between batteries, as much if not more vapor production, and no burnt taste like I was getting with the old dual coils occassionally. I get them directly from Smoktek, pre-drilled in both the single and double holes. I ordered all of mine in 2 ohm, as I don't care for voltage over 5.1v. These are also shared between a Silver Bullet and BB. Here's the link where I order:

Single Coil XL Tank Cartomizer for the SmokTank XL


I have the Pro V. It is a well constructed tank, nice fitting parts, looks high quality, works great. Carto fits very snuggly. Choice of polycarbonate tube color, although every one that I've seen online has been the saphire blue. You can see my Pro V in my sig below, or go to my profile page and click on my photo album.

I didn't order mine with the juice fill hole, as I know that I'd lose the 2 tiny screws that come with it, I don't like the look of the screw on the top endcap, and with my Slap-yo-Momma tool I don't mind filling the tank the old fashioned way. Having said all of that, I'm on a lazy search for a pyrex tube to replace the polycarbonate tube - I just do not like that material.

The Pro V is only made in batches, so there is often a waiting list. The Kir Fanis tanks from Greece may be even nicer looking tanks for the Provari and are around the same price range. Are these tanks worth the price and wait? I'd say yes if you have the money in your pocket. Built with the same attention to detail as the Provari. They look sexy and classy on the Provari, and if seeing these on your prized mod would increase your vaping enjoyment, then get one. Do they actually work any better than a $10 DCT or Vivi Nova - probably not.

 

[VaporHead512]

The only multi hole punched carto from the local shop was a 1.5 ohm.. Is that even safe to use on a Provari or a Zmax? I guess I'd have to keep it at 3.7v and under, but I need a multi hole carto because I've got some 50/50 juice I want to try.

 

[rondasherrill]

You can use almost any atomizer or carto. They suggest standard resistance because it gives you the widest range of voltage depending on your vape style.

 

[Baditude]

The only multi hole punched carto from the local shop was a 1.5 ohm.. Is that even safe to use on a Provari or a Zmax? I guess I'd have to keep it at 3.7v and under, but I need a multi hole carto because I've got some 50/50 juice I want to try.

Gimm Green finally got around to doing a Provari review. He gave it accolades until he tried to fire up a 1.5 ohm carto on it at 6 volts. Of course the Provari's safety circuits kicked in and gave him error codes and refused to fire. He apparently was not aware of Provari's 3.5 amp limit.



You could use that 1.5 ohm carto on a Provari, but I personally don't know why you would want to. The amp limiter would prevent you from getting much higher than 5 or so volts. A better choice would be something in the 2.0 to 3.0 ohm range. The higher wattage guys can give better and more specific advice on this. Get yourself a $15 carto punch tool, its always nice to have one around whether you decide to use it full time or not.

 

[VaporHead512]

Are you saying 18490's or 18650's are charging in 1 hour? What kind of charger are you using?

The battery I was talking about... earlier I had that 18490 battery in my provari and it was giving me false ohm readings on all of my cartos and atomizers, so I put the 18650 in, then all the readings were accurate. I'm guessing that battery is shot? I don't know yet how to tell if a battery is shot but that would be my best guess, coupled with the ultra fast charge time, makes me think so.

 

[VaporHead512]

Looking for some clearomizers that will work on my Provari. Atomizers, at least to me, seem messy or maybe I'm not using them right. Cartomizers apparently can distort juice taste. So clearomizers is my other option, right? Any that will work on a Provari?

 

[rondasherrill]

Looking for some clearomizers that will work on my Provari. Atomizers, at least to me, seem messy or maybe I'm not using them right. Cartomizers apparently can distort juice taste. So clearomizers is my other option, right? Any that will work on a Provari?

A Vivi Nova is basically a fancy clearomizer with replaceable heads. Those seem to be the popular "thing" these days.