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Game over - "E-cigarette use doubles among U.S. teens"

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  1. ScottBrooks

    ScottBrooks Full Member

    May 21, 2013
    Towson, MD., USA
    From USA Today:

    "The CDC survey comes as the federal government is expected to announce, as early as October, its plan to regulate these battery-powered devices as tobacco products."

    http:// www. usatoday. com/story/ news/nation/ 2013/09/05/e-cigarette-use-doubles-among-us-teens/2768155/

    Time to stock up! :mad:
  2. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 5, 2013
    Moved to Media and General News
  3. Vocalek

    Vocalek CASAA Activist ECF Veteran

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    Apr 7, 2009
    Springfield, VA
    And what are the actual numbers? From the CDC's report itself:

    Doubling from 1.2 to 2.1% kind of reminds me of the claim of NRTs that they double your chances of quitting. Sounds impressive until you find out that without NRT you chances of quitting are only 3%.

    Compare to the adult figures:

    Awareness and Ever Use of Electronic Cigarettes Among U.S. Adults, 2010

    It's difficult to do an exact comparison because different questions were asked.

    And then, there is the voice of reason: Kids Are Trying E-Cigarettes. Everybody Panic! - Hit & Run :

    The question is worded something like this: Did you smoke (even one puff) during the last 30 days?
    A "yes" answer categorizes you as a "current smoker."
  4. Maggiemw

    Maggiemw Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 23, 2013
    Middle East
    I love misleading titles like that article. Just what is "doubles"? Did the number of users go from 1 to 2?
  5. AgentAnia

    AgentAnia Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2013
    Orbiting Sirius B
    I have this image in my head that there's a full-time government position (perhaps one each in FDA, NIH, and CDC) with a job title of "Statistics Spinner." There is an 87.3% probability that this is true.

    ETA: Reran the figures. Probability is actually 94.8%.
  6. Joeyjoe

    Joeyjoe Moved On

    Aug 19, 2013
    Obviously the gears are in motion..this is disgusting propaganda..wasn't sure if i should try and stock up on nic..seeing as how i'm in Canada but quite sure "Health Canada" will follow FDA lead on this. BUT I am very happy to see the backlash these articles are generating from vapors..
  7. gayhalo

    gayhalo Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 17, 2013
    Ross-on-Wye UK
    Is that your dog in your avatar. I am a breeder of Cavaliers in the UK.
  8. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 4, 2010
    I think you're all right on the money.
  9. Joeyjoe

    Joeyjoe Moved On

    Aug 19, 2013
    Yes, that's my boy Rocky Racoon..He's 15 pounds of love wrapped in fur ..:)
  10. gayhalo

    gayhalo Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 17, 2013
    Ross-on-Wye UK
    Sorry everyone else.
    This is one of our boys Zak


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  11. Pstarsr

    Pstarsr Senior Member ECF Veteran

    There needs to be regulation requiring age limits. Funny thing is all the sites I buy from ask you birthday info before even viewing. But we all know that doesn't stop much.

    Regulation is coming on the nicotine content. I have no doubt

    The article is like every other, small amount if info mostly misrepresented as something frightening

    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Which doesn't work 50% of the time

    AZHIGHWAYZ Full Member

    Back to the topic

    You know what's even more disgusting...not to be outdone by a scoop, the other media outlets are now posting their tripe to catch up.

    What gets me is that they claim the e-cig industry is using celebrities like Stephen Dorf, Jenny Mcarthy, and Courtney Love to target teens into thinking it's cool. I could almost guarantee that 90% of TEENS don't have a damn clue who those celebrities are or that they are even celebrities for that matter.
  13. tommy2bad

    tommy2bad Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2011
  14. TyPie

    TyPie Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 13, 2013
    New Joisey (aka NJ)
    I find the timing of the CDC's "study" (I use the term very LOOSELY) is rather curious, dontcha think? (wink, wink.....the fix appears to be IN).

    Do you think that the CDC and the FDA talk among themselves?

    Edited to add: The tone and timing of these articles are just pathetic.
    OMG!!! How bloody SHOCKING!!!
    (I don't think anyone in the world would argue that e-cigs sales should be restricted to adults. Just as analogs are right now.)
  15. vjc0628

    vjc0628 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 23, 2013
    Maryville TN
    I would guarantee those kids are not getting it online as much as they would like you to believe they are impulsive and I would bet any amount of money there getting those ones you see in the corner shop

    moreover in the article you have listed I looked at the video you see them asking a doctor and others questions to show eciggs might be safe and give the stern I don't know as if that's proof

    even worse I see a lot of stuff like njoy and blue cigg actually pushing for these regs
    they sell there stuff in store they have big marketing budgets and are just trying to get the competition out of the way

    Its a joke but I think we don't have a chance when the bigger ecigg companies are against us
    and they get away with this kind of propaganda making accusations with no proof
  16. e-pipeman

    e-pipeman Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Oct 16, 2008
    Brown Edge, England
    At the end of the day the problem is money - big money - the money gained from tobacco tax and from NRT products.

    There's a lot of hoop-la about government caring about our health. If that was the case tobacco would be banned.

    Sadly this is all about money. :(
  17. vjc0628

    vjc0628 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 23, 2013
    Maryville TN
    exactly such a joke it just bothers me that people watch this stuff on the news
    and take is truth with no proof so swayed
    not just with this but with everything
  18. AgentAnia

    AgentAnia Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2013
    Orbiting Sirius B
  19. ElConquistador

    ElConquistador Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2013
    What this quote should say is “After we're finished with our e-cigarette regulations, many teens may be condemned to struggling with a lifelong addiction to conventional cigarettes.”
  20. 2coils

    2coils Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 29, 2012
    New Jersey
    The timing of this latest "survey" is suspect to say the least, as October is right around the corner. You are right about the backlash from vapers. Seems that since the "leak" reported by WSJ, in regard to the possible online ban, the media and legislative forum has been filled with ECF members. More so than I've see since joining. Looks like word is getting out and vapers are reacting!
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