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Hi @Yozhik have you had any issues with wandering base resistance when the 510 screw is adjusted? Mine is all over the place with just single turn 0.05 ohm change or more either way!!

Not that I recall, though I never had much need to adjust the 510 screw. Only problem I've had with inconsistency was letting the build deck get too dirty, but the ultrasonic cleaned it up and the problem went away.

Does the problem occur with the build deck ring? Or just with the tank?
 

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Not that I recall, though I never had much need to adjust the 510 screw. Only problem I've had with inconsistency was letting the build deck get too dirty, but the ultrasonic cleaned it up and the problem went away.

Does the problem occur with the build deck ring? Or just with the tank?
that I haven't investigated. Just noticed it earlier!! Stay tuned!!
 
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I trim the wick some more, I know it does not look like much cotton, but these are the end results:

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Notice how the cotton expanded absorbing and holding the e liquid. If I wold have left the same amount of cotton I started with, there would probably be no wicking taking place. I have not tried KGD in this atty yet, but I would adjust accordingly.

That is a 50/50 e liquid, 2.5mm Kanthal coil, 1.5 ohms. No dry hits and or leakage with this build. I do not know how this would work with higher VG.
Just tried your method. 2.5 mm 27 g Kanthal at 0.9 ohms. Cotton Bacon V2 for wicking. Used a MAX VG juice (Nicoticket's Sure Bert). Took it up to 20W on the SX Mini. Wicks like a dream. No dry hits. Thank you.
 

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This is all really great advice for anyone with this gem. So this week I've learned to close off the air holes a lot more so as to make extra negative pressure to force the juice onto to wick, and guess what it worked!!!! Can even see all the air bubbles being made as I draw. Talk about getting to know someone! Where else can you find quality advice like this eh, thanks again everyone :headbang:
 

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Different thickness tanks. Uneven tops. Pressure cracking. Holes too small. Support not responding. Spare tanks unavailable. Unexpected customs charges.

Thee last couple pages seem like a disaster. I had to check to make sure the title wasn't "got a new clone from China"

Wow.

Sorry if no one has responded to your post, but it comes across as if someone is looking to troll. However, assuming that is not the case, I'll say this:

All of my tanks work great. A few people have had mfg issues, but from what I've seen Mark Bugs takes care of problems. However, they are currently moving locations, so communication with them has been a little bit disrupted. The Gem not only comes with a spare glass tank, but also a stainless steel tank, along with other extras. The Gem comes with plenty extra compared to other high-end atomizers. The only thing I'd fault them for is not including extra o-rings, but that can be bought for $5 online. Finally, customs is the responsibility of the buyer, not the seller - that's true of any foreign purchase, not just Mark Bugs.
 

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Thanks for your input. I can assure you I have no desire to troll. The atomizer looked great in the first pages of the thread. I was just surprised to see pages of issues towards the end.

As I've mentioned previously I'm looking for a good atomizer

Can you tell me what the tank sizes are? Fluid volume ?


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Thanks for your input. I can assure you I have no desire to troll. The atomizer looked great in the first pages of the thread. I was just surprised to see pages of issues towards the end.

As I've mentioned previously I'm looking for a good atomizer

Can you tell me what the tank sizes are? Fluid volume ?


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4 ml with glass, 5ml with stainless. I leave about a 0.5ml air gap though. What are you looking for in a good atomizer?
 

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So for me

I vape mouth to lung
a smaller bore in the middle
Room for a 3mm coil preferably or Clapton 2.5
Airflow from the sides not bottom
Very customizable airflow
Tool less fill
Very easy wicking, I don't want to have to try for days to get it fit the first time, that would indicate poor design to me
Not overly sensitive to heat transfer. Some tanks get vaper at higher temps, like 440F and the whole thing is burning hot after
Multiple tank choices, glass must be one.
If dual coil, single coil possibility, closing air blocking channels
East to trap wire up to 24 gauge - kayfun 4 clomes for example are a pain a lot of the time
Adjustable center pin that doesn't loosen the main deck is a plus
Convertible tall and short options is a plus say 5 or 3 ml configs
In an authentic I want a properly nice drip tip. Protected from hat transfer and made for mouth to lung...I don't want to then have to pay $20-30 for that bit.
Has to be rock solid with temp control, I can monitor with the DNA 200 to see if the connection is lackluster.
I'll edit if I think of more!

Taifun gt2 and kayfun 4 clones have had the best flavor so far for me.



Oh and a minor point. Why do people create devices with slotted screws? They get juicy and are so much harder to deal wi than Phillips head. Am I missing the benefit, I've seen people change to them but I find them super annoying, so no slot screws or standard sizes so we can swap them out.
 

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So for me

I vape mouth to lung
a smaller bore in the middle
Room for a 3mm coil preferably or Clapton 2.5
Airflow from the sides not bottom
Very customizable airflow
Tool less fill
Very easy wicking, I don't want to have to try for days to get it fit the first time, that would indicate poor design to me
Not overly sensitive to heat transfer. Some tanks get vaper at higher temps, like 440F and the whole thing is burning hot after
Multiple tank choices, glass must be one.
If dual coil, single coil possibility, closing air blocking channels
East to trap wire up to 24 gauge - kayfun 4 clomes for example are a pain a lot of the time
Adjustable center pin that doesn't loosen the main deck is a plus
Convertible tall and short options is a plus say 5 or 3 ml configs
In an authentic I want a properly nice drip tip. Protected from hat transfer and made for mouth to lung...I don't want to then have to pay $20-30 for that bit.
Has to be rock solid with temp control, I can monitor with the DNA 200 to see if the connection is lackluster.
I'll edit if I think of more!

Taifun gt2 and kayfun 4 clones have had the best flavor so far for me.



Oh and a minor point. Why do people create devices with slotted screws? They get juicy and are so much harder to deal wi than Phillips head. Am I missing the benefit, I've seen people change to them but I find them super annoying, so no slot screws or standard sizes so we can swap them out.
The gem is not made for everyone. Based off the specs that you require, you should have known what you were getting in to. The gem is made for a small single coil with flavor and low wattage. I really don't see how people got a good working ni200 build in there as I've failed at that. Ni200 builds are rather tricky with this tank. I did find that g1 ti works beautiful in mine running 15 watts. It's easy to build and wick. The wicking did take a little bit of a learning curve though. The gem was made to be tiny and still hold a great amount of juice so the build deck is going to be tiny also. I really don't see how hard it is to use slotted screws. After using them, I've noticed that they can't be stripped, which is a plus for me.
 

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Slotted screws are personal opinion. I use hex on build decks a lot. Slot and juice don't go well for me. Depends on the depth.

I'm not sure what someone should take away from "based on your requirements you should've known what you were getting yourself into"I don't know anything about the gem. That's why I'm asking questions.

Maybe you meant I know enough to be able to read and judge on my own? Even if I owned one I'm not sure how it would help or apply even.

Color me confused
 

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Slotted screws are personal opinion. I use hex on build decks a lot. Slot and juice don't go well for me. Depends on the depth.

I'm not sure what someone should take away from "based on your requirements you should've known what you were getting yourself into"I don't know anything about the gem. That's why I'm asking questions.

Maybe you meant I know enough to be able to read and judge on my own? Even if I owned one I'm not sure how it would help or apply even.

Color me confused

So you dont have a GEM at the moment?? On the bais of the requirements for side AF and 3mm coil, it wouldnt appear to be the atty for you! I think this, for example, is what @IanDVaypes was referring to....Info about the deck size, af and everything el;se is available either on this forum or in innumerable reviews, particulalryl the excellent reviews by @qorax . Hard to know what else you could need to know really!
 

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I had assumed Qorax is a vendor. Is that not accurate?

I typically research before I buy. Paper doesn't tell me if there are issues or whether it's a good vape. Just that it has a chance to be. On paper every Chinese clone is a good vape. :)

I clearly need to bow out of this thread now. Thanks for the input all.
 

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I had assumed Qorax is a vendor. Is that not accurate?

I typically research before I buy. Paper doesn't tell me if there are issues or whether it's a good vape. Just that it has a chance to be. On paper every Chinese clone is a good vape. :)

I clearly need to bow out of this thread now. Thanks for the input all.

whoa buddy!! No need to bow out at all. All good here :)

So lets start afresh maybe! Just for your information, @qorax is a much respected member of ECF who essentially uses only authentic, high end gear. He has a vast amount of experience with these things, both atties of all kinds and mods and helps us mortals out with all sorts of issues - including even acting as a proxy between us and the mod makers who hold him in similarly high regard. His reviews are entertaining, fantastically informative and delivered with a lot of common sense and absolutely zero BS. If he likes something, he will make it clear why and if there is something not quite right, that will be flagged up also. The mod makers pay attention and often modify their devices based on his feedback. Even if you decide against the GEM, check out his portfolio of review videos on his youtube channel, and his posts here when you do decide on what you want to go for. He may just have already reviewed it and it will help the decision process a lot!

cheers

steve
 

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Hope I dun jinx myself, but the Gem is by far one of the easiest to setup. The vapor and flavor is up there with the best too.
Did it with NI200, did not fuss with the cotton wick too; just cut it as flush to the side as I could and stuff the rest into the wick channel, and it all works very well.. 1st time lucky? I hope not!
I have the KF4, GT2, SQr, and although I do like them and use them, they have their own little problems, fussy wicking, fussy coiling and the occasional leaks. The Gem? Well none of those issues! ;)
Only 1 thing I dun like; is that I need the adaptor or whatever it's called if I use kanthal for the dry burn. But since I'm moving for TC it's really not a big issue for me, if fact I'm really try not to get a 2nd Gem.. Too many atties already;)
 

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I had assumed Qorax is a vendor. Is that not accurate?..
Oh, no Sir. Not a vendor ~ and neither have I any stakes in any Vape related business. I am just an ordinary vaper like most - and I talk about it on my own, just to let you also know what I like / which gear is nice.
 

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Hope I dun jinx myself, but the Gem is by far one of the easiest to setup. The vapor and flavor is up there with the best too.
Did it with NI200, did not fuss with the cotton wick too; just cut it as flush to the side as I could and stuff the rest into the wick channel, and it all works very well.. 1st time lucky? I hope not!
I have the KF4, GT2, SQr, and although I do like them and use them, they have their own little problems, fussy wicking, fussy coiling and the occasional leaks. The Gem? Well none of those issues! ;)
Only 1 thing I dun like; is that I need the adaptor or whatever it's called if I use kanthal for the dry burn. But since I'm moving for TC it's really not a big issue for me, if fact I'm really try not to get a 2nd Gem.. Too many atties already;)
Please give us the details - I want to try Nickel in there too.
 

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So for me

I vape mouth to lung
a smaller bore in the middle
Room for a 3mm coil preferably or Clapton 2.5
Airflow from the sides not bottom
Very customizable airflow
Tool less fill
Very easy wicking, I don't want to have to try for days to get it fit the first time, that would indicate poor design to me
Not overly sensitive to heat transfer. Some tanks get vaper at higher temps, like 440F and the whole thing is burning hot after
Multiple tank choices, glass must be one.
If dual coil, single coil possibility, closing air blocking channels
East to trap wire up to 24 gauge - kayfun 4 clomes for example are a pain a lot of the time
Adjustable center pin that doesn't loosen the main deck is a plus
Convertible tall and short options is a plus say 5 or 3 ml configs
In an authentic I want a properly nice drip tip. Protected from hat transfer and made for mouth to lung...I don't want to then have to pay $20-30 for that bit.
Has to be rock solid with temp control, I can monitor with the DNA 200 to see if the connection is lackluster.
I'll edit if I think of more!

The Gem is a compact chamber, so the max coil I use is 28 gauge 2.5mm. I've done 26 gauge, but felt it was too limiting on airflow. Even with 28 gauge, I have no problem getting plenty of vape and lots of flavor. Otherwise, if large coils are a requirement, I'd probably suggest the Calix or Squape, but those fail your other requirements. Maybe Qorax knows of something...
 

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Thanks a lot steve. I will definitely go through his reviews. Appreciate it


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you are very welcome! Just something I forgot to say is that Q has some great tips for building and wicking in these vids that are helpul regardless of what RTA you are using. Lots of other knowledgeable people around also but, as you probs figured, im a big fan of the Q man!!
 
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