General help to improve my coils?

[Riff]

My coils are not very pretty, and function okay but I want to get better at this. What are some good sources on learning the basics? I did buy a coil jig, but this has let me almost as frustrated, as I'm not real sure what the size of each dowel is. Any good youtubers you guys recommend? Any really good blogs? I have a fair grasp on Ohm's law and what duel coils etc does to the math of vaping, even if I only vaguely have targets to aim for. We can skip the electrician's safety primers, I have them bookmarked already. Cheers!

 

[khrone]

Rip trippers has a coil building 101 video that explains the basics, check it out and hopefully get some tips

 

[Tmebs]

Let me start with I am by no means any kind of expert.....LOL
What are you building on?
What is your Mod/s? ( minimam ohms it will fire )
I just watched everything and anything coil related on youtube and read on this forum
I have given up several times and always go back to building ( tried to build kanger and gennys )
First success was a Magma! Practice and trial and error.....tore out many a coil and wasted a lot of wire!
I think if you just find one drill bit or screw driver that works for you just start there.....who cares what size it is....if you get what you want in seven wraps run with it.... If it taks five or nine/ what ever works for you with what you got on hand. Wrap it tight, pinch it in tweezers and torch it....LOL, enjoy!!!

 

[Riff]

I have a nice little handful of RDAs:
2x Youde Agi (1 loaned out to a friend also learning building)
1x Nimbus
1x Orchid V2
1x Kayfun lite 3.1
I also have a Plume Veil and Igo-w3 on the way.

Mostly I use 2 mods ATM, this will be changing after Christmas as I have known gifts incoming. A Nemesis mec and an MVP2. I have a Hammer but it gets only so much love, really I love the feel, but not the batteries I have for it hopefully this too will change. My incoming Christmas gifts are vv/vw devices that will span up to 20 watts and in January I am looking to get a 50w something, but I have just started my research there,

I'm not really sure where I stand on sub-ohms at this point, I have made a rather nice .7 duel coil that I was enjoying in the orchid, but that was more dumb luck than actual skill. I was aiming for a 1 ohm build and came up odd, first the coils were to much, then I unrolled a pair of wraps and rechecked it, bam .7 and clean.

As far as supplies I have 30,and 28 gauge kanthol, Japanese cotton, a coil jig, an ohm reader, and my less precise than I want analogue multimeter. Everytime I use a coil calculator I get higher resistance than anticipated usually by quite a large margin. I guess practice will be the big thing I need to do, but man I feel a little discouraged when I see other folks builds.

 

[Tmebs]

Sounds like me, dumb luck...LOL, I am at a point now with devices that range from .5 to 1.3 minimal fire range that I just build it and use it on whatever will fire it!
1st attempts on gennys sucked, with every attempt be it cotton or ss mesh......so I just walked away from those and now they sit in a box.
2nd attempt was on kayfun, for the husband and it work great and I was able to get good builds on it.......then it broke!
3rd attempts were on Magma's......anything I built at that point I had device to run.....didn"t always give me the best flavor or vapor but they worked.
Now we have 2x Magma, 1xAtomic, 2x TOBH, and 1x Stillare........and I'm with you on sub-ohm, really not interested in those (I have mech mods too) just yet.
I think at this point I am just chasing my tail looking for the BEST.......I'm giving up and just wrapping and vaping at this point. Its still fun don't get me wrong, but my vaping table consists of a bunch of junk I don't use or need........seems I just keep reaching for the same few drill bits I started with and I really don"t even know what size they are..LOL..........practice, good luck and ENJOY!

 

[drippaboi]

I hate my coil jig as well, so much easier just wrapping around drill bits. Get yourself some ceramic tweezers and a decent butane torch and thank yourself every time you wind a coil.

 

[drippaboi]

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As far as supplies I have 30,and 28 gauge kanthol, Japanese cotton, a coil jig, an ohm reader, and my less precise than I want analogue multimeter. Everytime I use a coil calculator I get higher resistance than anticipated usually by quite a large margin. I guess practice will be the big thing I need to do, but man I feel a little discouraged when I see other folks builds.

Since you're using a multimeter with leads be sure to subtract the internal resistance of the lead wires themselves from your reading to get the actual resistance of your build. Simply touch the leads together with the meter in ohms mode to get this value, then write it on your meter so you don't forget.

Personally this was way too much of a hassle me so I went and bought a 510 e-cig volt/ohm meter box for $7 shipped on eBay. Makes testing builds nice and easy, doubles as a nice build platform, and is more than accurate enough to suit my needs.

Don't be discouraged though! I'm just now starting to build and position coils I can be proud of consistently and I've been at this for months.

 

[readeuler]

I have the "artistic coiling gizmo", and it works well for me. Look up Super X's "Look mom, no torch" video on how he wraps his microcoils. In general, the idea that you want as much tension as possible on the wire when you're wrapping is very helpful. It helps the coil retain its shape.

Aside from that, a great tip is to always use something inside your coils when you're mounting them: I used to wrap on 14ga needles, and left them in the coils when it came time to mount; they're less likely to get deformed when you're tightening leads, etc. Now with the gizmo, I just use a 2mm screwdriver. You want as tight a fit as possible, but not so tight it can't be removed easily.

It can help to use a small gauge needle to angle coil legs so they have nice crisp bends to line up with whatever posts you're using. The hardest part for me is trying to keep the outer wraps from deforming; with tension, the inner wraps generally do just fine.

 

[3mg Meniere]

I use knitting needles. They are also long enough to use for storage from a marathon prebuild session. Plus, a rubber band around the needle can be used to squeeze them together.

 

[coolercoiler]

maybe try some 26g kanthal for your builds, its a lot easier to work with and holds its shape better.