Gone through 6 Ft of Kanthal rebuilding a tank. None of them work. ...?

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Not sure the particular tank matters. If I cannot understand what I am screwing up the result will likely not change

It may matter more than you realize. The Protanks are not "rebuildable" but it happens that their construction makes them easy to rebuild if you don't mind tinkering.

With a true rebuildable, there's posts usually with screw terminals which makes it much more fool-proof. No fiddling with insulators or pins. Wrap a coil and screw it down.
 

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I don't know if this is still true or not. I'm using a RTA (Sophia) and the build is similar to a Protank but easier. No screws and it's made to be rebuilt.

It may matter more than you realize. The Protanks are not "rebuildable" but it happens that their construction makes them easy to rebuild if you don't mind tinkering.

With a true rebuildable, there's posts usually with screw terminals which makes it much more fool-proof. No fiddling with insulators or pins. Wrap a coil and screw it down.
 

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Not to revel in your misery, but it's reassuring to see another old timer having issues with their first coils. I cursed it for a long time, left it sitting for a while. The videos didn't help, because my eye hand coordination wasn't on par with the presenters.

One problem I had was with the legs, after wrapping them on a drill bit, toothpick whatever, the legs would end up pointing in different directions, crossing, bent up, etc...I started just running my fingers down the length of the legs to straighten them, do it multiple times until the legs are perfectly straight and pointing in the right direction...problem solved.

Another problem I had was that while I was struggling to get the insulator and center pin back in, the coil and legs would loosen up. There ended up with the coils not sitting properly, or the legs crossed, shorting, touching the sides, and all sorts of other fails. Now after I get the insulator and pin in, I gently pull on the leads to tighten them up before removing the drill bit. Then trim the excess last.

Hope this helps, the difference in vape is worth the hassle.
 

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I think that will do you better. Somehow it sounds like your could are starting off correct but then in assembling the tank the connection gets lost. With this cobra you will be able to pop off the top cap and fiddle with the coil without complete disassembly. My only concern is it uses that Allen key and not Phillips. They don't show with the hood off, but you might be even better off with one that has holes in the posts to stock the wrote in and then clamp down from above with the screw. Things can shift when wrapping around a screw and then tightening it.

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...with one that has holes in the posts to stick the wire in and then clamp down from above with the screw. Things can shift when wrapping around a screw and then tightening it.

Someone's phone is guessing at the words. I fixed it for you.

Edit: and "with the hood off" means "with the top cap removed."
 
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Looking at this: https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10003924/1330500-genesis-style-rebuildable-atomizer-3-5ml

Thinking giving one last shot, but if it doesn't work then I'm done.

Why do you want a genesis style RBA? They are widely known to be one of the most difficult to set up. What would you think of an RDA like an IGO-L? That would be much easier.

If your protank heads are failing so consistently, there must be something you are doing wrong every time. There are plenty of tutorial videos out there for you to follow and I am sure that is what you are doing, but not quite picking up on some important detail. The other possibility is that your device is not making good contact. What is it by the way? I know you said cgr18650ch earlier, but is it in a mech or something else?
 

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Sorry, I was eating with one hand and the tv was on too. You can use a genisis without mesh, say with cotton or similar, and for getting the coil right I'd say it is one of the easiest platforms to get it right on.

What wick are you currently using, I missed that part.

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Why do you want a genesis style RBA? They are widely known to be one of the most difficult to set up. What would you think of an RDA like an IGO-L? That would be much easier.

If your protank heads are failing so consistently, there must be something you are doing wrong every time. There are plenty of tutorial videos out there for you to follow and I am sure that is what you are doing, but not quite picking up on some important detail. The other possibility is that your device is not making good contact. What is it by the way? I know you said cgr18650ch earlier, but is it in a mech or something else?

I am using a VTR.

I am following the videos step by step. Of course my coils are not as tight and "pretty" as the ones in the videos, but I am doing the best I can and cannot seem to achieve the same look that I seen in the videos.
 

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Not sure the particular tank matters. If I cannot understand what I am screwing up the result will likely not change

You said you were interested in rebuildables but could only use 19mm or less.

Those two I found are rebuildables 16mm diameter. They'll fit in your VTR.
Actually true rebuildables with posts and screws or nuts to tighten down your wire; no more messing with rubber grommet and tinneee tinnee coils.

The downside is they're genesis type so they are intended to be used with steel mesh wick and you got to know how to torch your mesh to prevent shorts.
 

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You said you were interested in rebuildables but could only use 19mm or less.

Those two I found are rebuildables 16mm diameter. They'll fit in your VTR.
Actually true rebuildables with posts and screws or nuts to tighten down your wire; no more messing with rubber grommet and tinneee tinnee coils.

The downside is they're genesis type so they are intended to be used with steel mesh wick and you got to know how to torch your mesh to prevent shorts.

I have to use steel mesh? I'm screwed then. I have none and no idea how to use it. Guess I got a couple of more item for the trash....... What a waste of $25
 

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I think that will do you better. Somehow it sounds like your could are starting off correct but then in assembling the tank the connection gets lost. With this cobra you will be able to pop off the top cap and fiddle with the coil without complete disassembly. My only concern is it uses that Allen key and not Phillips. They don't show with the hood off, but you might be even better off with one that has holes in the posts to stock the wrote in and then clamp down from above with the screw. Things can shift when wrapping around a screw and then tightening it.

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I like the ones with a threads post sticking up where you wrap the coil or put through a hole then screw a nut down over it. No screwdriver required.

I have an I-atty and I do not recommend it; it uses flathead/slothead screws; very finnicy to put those screw in without the help of santa's little elves.
 

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I have to use steel mesh? I'm screwed then. I have none and no idea how to use it. Guess I got a couple of more item for the trash....... What a waste of $25

No you don't have to; and my i-atty from fasttech did come with the mesh and coil etc preassembled already, ready to vape, with extra mesh and wire for rebuilding; you have to read to fine print to see if it come preassembled for you.

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From the looks of that one, I see no mesh inside the tank in the picture, so you get the mesh and wire in the package and you have to put them in.
 

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I have to use steel mesh? I'm screwed then. I have none and no idea how to use it. Guess I got a couple of more item for the trash....... What a waste of $25

You don't have to use mesh, cotton or other materials can be used too. I think you missed my edit, but what wick are you currently using?
 

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No you don't have to; and my i-atty from fasttech did come with the mesh and coil etc preassembled already, ready to vape, with extra mesh and wire for rebuilding; you have to read to fine print to see if it come preassembled for you.

1330500-7.jpg

From the looks of that one, I see no mesh inside the tank in the picture, so you get the mesh and wire in the package and you have to put them in.


But I can use yarn or cotton instead of mesh?
 
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