GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid, GP PAPS, X, GP Piccolo, GP SnP and more - Part 1

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Just a sneak preview from our R&D adventures.

The last days we keep breaking various rooting cutters, knife blades and drills of extreme hardness, trying to tame a 25 mm titanium rod grade 2. Finally, we found the cutting speed, it is 5 times slower than the one needed for the 316 SS rods of GP PAPS X, a very time consuming process. If we ever achieve to make a mod from these rods, it will be a quite limited edition for sure! Tomorrow we shall try the engraving process.

Not fair. Just when i thought I was nearly done with mods... a GP-Ti i would put a prepayment down if need be!

Just in case you haven't broken ALL of your blades and bits, ever consider machining tungsten? My 7 year old tungsten wedding band looks as good today as it did when i bought it. I can't imagine how drool-worthy even a drip-tip from tungsten would look!
 

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Not fair. Just when i thought I was nearly done with mods... a GP-Ti i would put a prepayment down if need be!

Just in case you haven't broken ALL of your blades and bits, ever consider machining tungsten? My 7 year old tungsten wedding band looks as good today as it did when i bought it. I can't imagine how drool-worthy even a drip-tip from tungsten would look!

Are you trying to make us break the last tungsten carbide based cutters we have? Tungsten is harder than titanium :D

I wish we could, tungsten is beautiful!

On another note, you had asked me a few days ago, for the aeolipile in vector format. I will send it to your email as soon as I retrieve it from my disk, I haven't forgot it, I had though a disc failure in the meanwhile.
 
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titanium_grade_2_vignette.jpg

Just a sneak preview from our R&D adventures.
The last days we keep breaking various routing cutters, knife blades and drills of extreme hardness, trying to tame a 25 mm titanium rod grade 2. Finally, we found the cutting speed, it is 5 times slower than the one needed for the 316 SS rods of GP PAPS X, a very time consuming process. If we ever achieve to make a mod from these rods, it will be a quite limited edition for sure! Tomorrow we shall try the engraving process.

Where, I know ~ When should I send my pay cheque?:D
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Rejoinder: And the image looks so beautiful I'm posting it on my Fb page
 
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Where, I know ~ When should I send my pay cheque?:D
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Rejoinder: And the image looks so beautiful I'm posting it on my Fb page

Today morning, I asked my turner, when we shall have a tube from this rod, he stared at me with a thoughtful look and he remained silent, he was busy changing the 6th broken cutter ... At least, we found the cutting speed. We need time for the rest. I don't know what is the availability of titanium rods in USA and Canada, but in Europe is very difficult to find it in a machinable state. Like copper.
 
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Today morning, I asked my turner, when we shall have a tube from this rod, he stared at me with a thoughtful look and he remained silent, he was busy changing the 6th broken cutter ... At least, we found the cutting speed. We need time for the rest. I don't know what is the availability of titanium rods in USA and Canada, but in Europe is very difficult to find it in a machinable state. Like copper.

Like a true artisan - the non-answer speaks louder than words.

I hope you can source bits and shavers that can more quickly and reliably machine Ti.
 

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Today morning, I asked my turner, when we shall have a tube from this rod, he stared at me with a thoughtful look and he remained silent, he was busy changing the 6th broken cutter ... At least, we found the cutting speed. We need time for the rest.

Right there! Your lovely mods have gotten me so obsessed that today I vape more than I used to smoking (yack!)... holding, carousing and cape-codding them itself brings me immense pleasure, which gets catapulted with every puff (vape) I take.

This thing is a phenomena... a Love at First Puff;)... can't get enough of it! So much so that the other day I pulled out my LUX-KFL right in the middle of a conference ~ and ppl went aghast for a while! It's another matter that the discussion went elsewhere thereon ~ got relegated (nah, got 'upgraded') to vaping! LOL!
My constant vaping amuses me (aka Lara Croft - The Tomb Raider) ~ I thus, need that rest :)
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Like a true artisan - the non-answer speaks louder than words.

I hope you can source bits and shavers that can more quickly and reliably machine Ti.

Yes, we use 4 different facilities, travelling back and forth in 2 countries, every subcontractor is better from the other, we can source any tool we want, from the moment we have the raw materials, but we haven't any experience with titanium, so we're going with slow steps.
Modding's nature is a continuous learning process.
 

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Looks like you and your machinist discovered with blood, sweat and tears, what is now being taught at VERY high-levels of Ti-machining (aerospace): link

Yep! We knew that we need slow cutting speed, but the exact speed is a critical factor and it is depending on many parameters related to the grade of titanium, the thickness, the blade, the cutting angle, the depth, etc. Many of our tools are custom made by us, so any attempt of cloning a product like Spheroid may result to an expensive endeavour. It can be done of course, in a cheaper way at the expense of quality and precision.

Thank you for the article, we had the same discussion today about the cutting angles, direction and the shape, strange coincidence!
 
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Yep! We knew that we need slow cutting speed, but the exact speed is a critical factor and it is depending on many parameters related to the grade of titanium, the thickness, the blade, the cutting angle, the depth, etc. Many of our tools are custom made by us, so any attempt of cloning a product like Spheroid may result to an expensive endeavour. It can be done of course, in a cheaper way at the expense of quality and precision.


That's why your pieces will never be cloned like these other ones,well at least not to the same quality. You see sooo many high ends being made every day except the GP's. You don't just put a button on a tube and charge $200. There is actually THOUGHT and IMAGINATION involved.
 

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I wanted to take a moment and give Blake from Domo Vapor Co. a pat on the back. Above and beyond any reasonable expectations, Blake responded to my email inquiries far past closing time for most vendors, took the time to work with his CC processor AND my bank to figure out why a simple credit card authorization was failing.

And after all that, he managed to push the order through!

Thanks Blake, your efforts are very appreciated!

And Perseas, you've found a quality partner and friend in Blake and Domo! He's got to be a "brother from a different mother!"
 

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That's why your pieces will never be cloned like these other ones,well at least not to the same quality. You see sooo many high ends being made every day except the GP's. You don't just put a button on a tube and charge $200. There is actually THOUGHT and IMAGINATION involved.

Thank you, we strive to raise the bar continuously for the day that clones of our products appear in the market. When that day comes, we want to have evolve our mods enough to avoid confusion for our clients.
 
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Q, what is that nice piece you got today? Details.

It's an eBaron Dripper by Leo. A CE2 based RDA having rave reviews (one's below). Got mine in dual tone ~ Satin tube with Polished base... a renewed version as well, which Leo recently put-out and made a contest as well.

 
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