GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid, GP PAPS, X, GP Piccolo, GP SnP and more - Part 3

[perseas]

I am a fan of fluff, but I have used many fluffless builds with Heron that work fine. It is very easy, especially with the new topper, 2-2,5 mm coil, one tail through the hole, or both tails but not too dense, both untwisted on their ends and trimmed at 5 mm above the hole.

 

[qorax]

^^My experience is just the opposite of yours. I can setup my Heron V2 any which way I want and it will work perfectly. I can wick it blindly, so to speak, and it will not give any dryhit or flooding or whatever. As such, I wonder at this design -- and believe that it is a better Heron than the first/s.

 

[rockstarr]

I get inconsistent wicking with my V2 also, it's a bit challenging and no luck here with the method P mentioned above. I use the cap with two holes and find it wicks best with the cotton on the inside of the holes, I get dry hits every time with the tails hanging out no-matter the density of my cotton. I do eventually get it and Im good to go until it needs changed again then the process starts all over. This is my favorite atty when I get it wicking perfectly, all-though this one does challenge me!

 

[perseas]

I get inconsistent wicking with my V2 also, it's a bit challenging and no luck here with the method P mentioned above. I use the cap with two holes and find it wicks best with the cotton on the inside of the holes, I get dry hits every time with the tails hanging out no-matter the density of my cotton. I do eventually get it and Im good to go until it needs changed again then the process starts all over. This is my favorite atty when I get it wicking perfectly, all-though this one does challenge me!

If the cotton inside the coil is too tight that will cause poor wicking, especially with subohm resistance value. I prefer the tails hanging out. If you have wicking issues no matter what is the resistance and the density of the cotton, I suggest you to use the updated topper. It 's more efficient in terms of wicking and easier to set it up.

 

[rockstarr]

If the cotton inside the coil is too tight that will cause poor wicking, especially with subohm resistance value. I prefer the tails hanging out. If you have wicking issues no matter what is the resistance and the density of the cotton, I suggest you to use the updated topper. It 's more efficient in terms of wicking and easier to set it up.

Thanks P, I do understand but as described by others if I loosen the cotton I get flooding, as far as the new topper, as I mentioned above, no luck there either and it actually seemed worse. Like I said I eventually get it just right and it vapes great but there have been days when No matter my build it it won't wick right.

 

[SeniorBoy]

On the Heron V2 issue: Please ignore my previous build pics in this thread with the two juice slots topper and accept my apologies. That build did not wick properly and unfortunately a few others with this topper eventually produce dry hits. This is not my first rodeo /lol so I'm switching to the new single juice hole topper and appreciate the tips.

Question: What is the best way to remove the new single juice hole topper?

It has an Oring and using pliers makes me nervous about damaging the Oring and the GP tool didn't work. I must be missing something?

Thanks

 

[perseas]

Thanks P, I do understand but as described by others if I loosen the cotton I get flooding, as far as the new topper, as I mentioned above, no luck there either and it actually seemed worse. Like I said I eventually get it just right and it vapes great but there have been days when No matter my build it it won't wick right.

Make a try again with the updated topper, it provides better wicking and keeps the internal pressure balanced, it is more forgivable to set it up.

On the Heron V2 issue: Please ignore my previous build pics in this thread with the two juice slots topper and accept my apologies. That build did not wick properly and unfortunately a few others with this topper eventually produce dry hits. This is not my first rodeo /lol so I'm switching to the new single juice hole topper and appreciate the tips.

Question: What is the best way to remove the new single juice hole topper?

It has an Oring and using pliers makes me nervous about damaging the Oring and the GP tool didn't work. I must be missing something?

Thanks

I just use ceramic tweezers to raise it from one side and then I remove it with my fingertips in a few seconds.

 

[Cucco]

Hello my GP Family. Sorry I have been MIA for a couple of weeks! I have been dealing with some stuff. And, one of my kids(cat) is in the process of dying. That rots. I hope you are all doing well.

Oh.. I just wanted to tell you.. You may remember, I have been a great fan of KGD for a long time. I rarely try anything new. I tend to be a creature of habit, and keep things simple. But, a friend told me to try Cotton Bacon. So far, I find it a little less convenient than KGD. But, the wicking and taste are great!

BTW: Have I mentioned lately, how much I love my GP Family and my Xs?

Hugs and smiles to all!

 

[perhol]

>Perseas
As you probably know, the countries of the EU have to implement TPD.
TPD requires No TANKS must be able to contain more than 2 ml.
Therefore this question.
Have Vapourart plans to make a tank, for example a spheroid, with a maximum content of 2 ml?

 

[qorax]

>Perseas
As you probably know, the countries of the EU have to implement TPD.
TPD requires No TANKS must be able to contain more than 2 ml.
Therefore this question.
Have Vapourart plans to make a tank, for example a spheroid, with a maximum content of 2 ml?

Why would you like to do that brother? There are many 2ml atties out there, some of them pretty good as well. I'd leave the Spheroid as it is, TPD or not. In any case TPD is not affable to 'open systems' -- and that 2ml is effectively for clearos. So, if TPD goes into full steam (which I doubt), RTAs would anyway be discouraged.

Worst comes to worst, VapourArt could introduce a slightly taller chamber cap (topper) to reduce the capacity to 2ml (TPD compliant) if required. Put that in the stock spheroid - and sell the package with the current chamber cap in the spares baggy. Win-win for both!

 

[perhol]

Why would you like to do that brother?

I'm a bit old-fashioned I think.
When I've got something really good in my life I would like to keep it.
My daily go-to mods are 2 Spheroids on Piccolos and 2 Herons on Paps. It is the only device that gives me the vapour and flavor I want.
And of them spheroid are a hair better.

There are many 2ml atties out there, some of them pretty good as well.

I've tried a lot of different, but no matching Vapourarts products.

So, if TPD goes into full steam (which I doubt), RTAs would anyway be discouraged.

Denmark is one of the first countries that will introduce a law that complies with TPD. The first debate of the bill is april 1st!

Worst comes to worst, VapourArt could introduce a slightly taller chamber cap (topper) to reduce the capacity to 2ml (TPD compliant) if required.

It might be enough, but so would a shortening of the tanktube and chimney be.
For these reasons, I put my question to Perseas.

 

[h00ligan]

>Perseas
As you probably know, the countries of the EU have to implement TPD.
TPD requires No TANKS must be able to contain more than 2 ml.
Therefore this question.
Have Vapourart plans to make a tank, for example a spheroid, with a maximum content of 2 ml?

I never once saw a child proof cap or tobacco liki non a cigarette.

This is so frustrating. Nanny governments trying to protect children in lieu of parents actually taking responsibility. And it's so arbitrary. Drinking two ml of 3 mg liquid is going to be much different than drinking two ml of 36 mg fluid.


These people are grasping at straws regulating things they don't have clue one regarding and assuming all parents are incapable of monitoring their children.

Gah! Sorry. I just get so frustrated by this scramble to idiocy.

On a more specific note. When one uses ptfe tubing with od 3mm and id 2mm the vape of th heron v2 is substantially improved. The flavor and density are both way better than the mm hole. The tubing is $2.50 a foot on eBay. If ou have a taifun gt2 you can use their tubing.

Stands to reason given the spheroid is a better vape than the heron. Clearly air intake diameter is a big reason why.

 

[perseas]

I never once saw a child proof cap or tobacco liki non a cigarette.

This is so frustrating. Nanny governments trying to protect children in lieu of parents actually taking responsibility. And it's so arbitrary. Drinking two ml of 3 mg liquid is going to be much different than drinking two ml of 36 mg fluid.


These people are grasping at straws regulating things they don't have clue one regarding and assuming all parents are incapable of monitoring their children.

Gah! Sorry. I just get so frustrated by this scramble to idiocy.

On a more specific note. When one uses ptfe tubing with od 3mm and id 2mm the vape of th heron v2 is substantially improved. The flavor and density are both way better than the mm hole. The tubing is $2.50 a foot on eBay. If ou have a taifun gt2 you can use their tubing.

Stands to reason given the spheroid is a better vape than the heron. Clearly air intake diameter is a big reason why.

I totally agree with you regarding the regulations, they are so hypocrites ...

The Spheroid is a 16 mm atomizer with the limitations of its size, it cannot handle low subOhm for example and comparing with a 22 mm atty like Heron is more of a compliment than a true comparison. Each one covers different needs in vaping. The air intake definitely influences the vaping, albeit lung vaping won't be satisfactory with a small air intake. So, Spheroid is better for mouth to lung and Heron for both styles of vaping. We thought about different tubing when we're designing the Heron 2.0, but an image came to mind: imagine to drop this tiny tube during a built on a thick carpet and discover later that you missed it ...

 

[perseas]

>Perseas
As you probably know, the countries of the EU have to implement TPD.
TPD requires No TANKS must be able to contain more than 2 ml.
Therefore this question.
Have Vapourart plans to make a tank, for example a spheroid, with a maximum content of 2 ml?

We are working on it.

 

[SeniorBoy]

So............... A funny thing happened to me a few days ago which I hope helps someone. I decided to give my darling Heron V2 with the two juice slots in the topper one last chance without the fluffness. I guess I'm stubborn that way and when P posted the "forgiving" word it kinda dawned on me. See this pic:

The top image is the original KGD wick which was subsequently primed before installing the bell. Like all my other tries it vaped fine for about 1 ML and then the dry hits/leaky occurred and no more snap crackle and pop. The bottom image is the tweaked wick which after about 8ML vapes like a champ. No more dry hits, quick pulls one after the other and it's fine. Snap crackle and pop is back. No leaks out of the AFC. Love it. I used a dental tool and sharp scissors to trim and shape. The other side doesn't stick out of the hole as much but since I used plenty of KGD I'm sure it will stay in place. All I can conclude for whatever it's worth /lol is the wicking has to be spot on via fluffless, based on my experiences and just like my Squapes a very small tweak like this can make all the difference. Whatever works for each of us is fine with me.

 

[qorax]

 

[perseas]

Thank you very much bro for the video tutorial!

As always it is very clear and detailed!

 

[Fyla]

I don't have enough words to thank perseas and Miroslav and all the GP team for making my Piccolo V1 in full function again. They did a great job and i can just say many many thanks. Now i can honestly enjoy in this piece of history. I am truly amazed.

Thank you again

 

[qorax]

I don't have enough words to thank perseas and Miroslav and all the GP team for making my Piccolo V1 in full function again. They did a great job and i can just say many many thanks. Now i can honestly enjoy in this piece of history. I am truly amazed.

Thank you again

Ah, how I wish I had one of those earlier Piccolos! That's a lovely shot buddy - and looks pristine. Congrats!

 

[Fyla]

Ah, how I wish I had one of those earlier Piccolos! That's a lovely shot buddy - and looks pristine. Congrats!

Thank you brother. It wasn't in best shape when i bought it, but GP team made it shine again