Has the juice ever caused serious symptoms?

[KHex]

Not a troll post, in fact, I posted here a while back when I was trying these things.

Anyways, I ordered one of these models around in late November/early December with some generic juice. I probably had the equivelant of three full cigarettes. Two weeks after I smoked though I had symptoms which included (and still include) odd tightening in muscles/heaviness, in calves and forearms. This went away and was replaced by sensitivty in ankles and upper foot. Wrist feels strained and fingers tremble in certain positions. I've seen 3 neurologists, each of them saying it's none of the bad diseases as well as a rheumatologist.

Again, this is not a troll post nor am I trying to downgrade e-smoking (I do 4 forms of tobacco in fact). I am simply eliminating possibilities which in this case could have been a bad batch.

 

[breakfastchef]

Not a troll

Why would you start a post with that comment?

Anyways, I ordered one of these models around in late November/early December with some generic juice

Pretty non-speicific. You need to be more specific in order for forum members to provide comments.

Two weeks after I smoked though I had symptoms which included (and still include) odd tightening in muscles/heaviness, in calves and forearms. This went away and was replaced by sensitivty in ankles and upper foot. Wrist feels strained and fingers tremble in certain positions. I've seen 3 neurologists, each of them saying it's none of the bad diseases as well as a rheumatologist.

It is eeriely creepy that you describe your symptoms much like you might see in a PDR.

Again, this is not a troll post nor am I trying to downgrade e-smoking (I do 4 forms of tobacco in fact). I am simply eliminating possibilities which in this case could have been a bad batch.

No one knows the long term effects of vaping or second-hand vaping. The symptoms you describe do not seem to be generally associated with a nicotine overdose, but I am not a physician. Why not delete four of your nicotine dosage methods and find out which, if any , may be causing your problems.

 

[KHex]

I stated that I wasn't a troll to avoid the hostility that I of course recieved from your post. You obviously were offended that I was just trying to get honest feedback as to whether or not there has been a single case of not so good juice. Mods, delete this if you want for simply asking an honest to god question, unbelievable.

 

[KHex]

Not a troll post, in fact, I posted here a while back when I was trying these things.

Anyways, I ordered one of these models around in late November/early December with some generic juice. I probably had the equivelant of three full cigarettes. Two weeks after I smoked though I had symptoms which included (and still include) odd tightening in muscles/heaviness, in calves and forearms. This went away and was replaced by sensitivty in ankles and upper foot. Wrist feels strained and fingers tremble in certain positions. I've seen 3 neurologists, each of them saying it's none of the bad diseases as well as a rheumatologist.

Again, this is not a troll post nor am I trying to downgrade e-smoking (I do 4 forms of tobacco in fact). I am simply eliminating possibilities which in this case could have been a bad batch.

Oh and I don't want to say where/when I ordered as again, I don't know what caused my symptoms and I don't want to name a company which could affect a sale or two for no good reason.

 

[strayling]

I get a headache if I get carried away with the nicotine, and I went through a few days of gummed up sinuses which later wore off. That's about it.

 

[KHex]

I get a headache if I get carried away with the nicotine, and I went through a few days of gummed up sinuses which later wore off. That's about it.

Same, probably only once when I smoked and over did it while drinking. Anyways, I might have Lyme or something but I am just covering all my bases.

 

[Oliver]

Yes, careful on getting carried away - it can certainly do strange things to you. I would do as the above poster suggests and try eliminating one or more tobacco product.

Have a go at working out how much nicotine you are taking in too and make sure it's not crazy amounts!

 

[KHex]

Yes, careful on getting carried away - it can certainly do strange things to you. I would do as the above poster suggests and try eliminating one or more tobacco product.

Have a go at working out how much nicotine you are taking in too and make sure it's not crazy amounts!

Nah, I didn't mean I do 4 at once heh. I do SNUS 90 percent of the time, occasionally pipe, once a month maybe nasal snuff and a cigarette or two for the rest of the time. That's all I meant. Although, I do know people who do all four at once. I should have been more clear.

 

[breakfastchef]

I stated that I wasn't a troll to avoid the hostility that I of course recieved from your post. You obviously were offended that I was just trying to get honest feedback as to whether or not there has been a single case of not so good juice. Mods, delete this if you want for simply asking an honest to god question, unbelievable.

Sorry for the other symptom you forgot to list - oversensitivity.

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

Do you know if your liquid is PG based or VG based? some people have sensitivity or alergies to one or the other.

Have you discussed ecigs with your doctor for his opinion? That would be best...

 

[ISAWHIM]

Keep your used bottles/containers...

If the containers were "Tainted", you will need proof that is what the cause is/or/may-be from.

Though, to me, it sounds like you are describing a neurological symptom common with spinal compression or spinal disk-slipping. (Pressure on your lower lumbar spinal region, pinching critical nerves. This would feel like symptoms of dis-associated and un-linked random pains.)

Similar to carpal-tunnel which seems to hurt your wrist and hands, but is actually nerve damage under your wrist/palms.

In any event, I would personally suggest that you consult a therapeutic physician for a full physical, as you are now. Once that is done, you should drop one habit only. One at a time, not all four at once, and always having three others going. If it is not any single thing, or the combination of all four... than it is unrelated to anything you have done immediately, and you should review the things which are around your environment and your daily habits. (The way you sit, how close you are to a highway, your social life-stress, your daily events, your diet, the age of the house you live in... suggesting that there are other possible hidden issues related to house-sickness... mold, lead paint, asbestos, natural-gas co2, lack of fresh sleeping air, excessive use of perfumes and cleaner perfumes.)

I can't say that you have mentioned anything common to smoking, or even related to any specific possible additive. However, I am not a toxicologist. (You can also have a toxicology report done on yourself.)

I can only think of two forms of tobacco consumption. However, if you Smoke, Chew/dip, Wear a patch, while chewing gum and hitting an e-cig... You will not have any luck asking if your symptoms are "E-Cig" related, unless you "Only use the E-Cig."

That is like saying... I was drunk, high, PMSing, sleepwalking, and driving... Did I get a speeding ticket because I was a woman?

Muscle-ache is one reported symptom, after heavy use, after switching-over... not while doing 4 other forms of nicotine, and who knows what-other things would have contributed to that? Do you wrestle? Do you jog? Are you taking any steroid-base medication? Do you walk up three flights of stairs to get to your home? How old are you? Is it cold there? Do you have any history of arthritis? How is the level of calcium and protein in your diet? Are you on any opiates? Are you recently off any opiates?

Not making fun, just trying to let you know how vague the info you offered was, for an honest answer. (EG, an honest answer is not possible with the information you provided.)

Perhaps if you can tell more about your other habits, and some of the things I mentioned... We might be able to assist more.