Hawaii Minimum Age

[englishmick]

This was a single para in an article listing changing laws around the country. I hadn't heard of it before.

"Hawaii is becoming the first state to raise its minimum age, from 18 to 21, to buy or use cigarettes or e-cigarettes. It's a move some local governments have made before, but never a state."


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[pennysmalls]

That's just wrong wrong wrong on so many levels.

 

[zoiDman]

I think as soon as you reach the Age of 18 in this Country, and are Legally Recognized as an Adult, that you should be able to buy tobacco or e-Cigarettes.

I would Love to see this 21+ Age Limit Law challenged in the Courts.

 

[AndriaD]

That's just wrong wrong wrong on so many levels.

I agree. It's not going to change anyone's behavior -- it'll just give the cops a whole new way to hassle young people.

Andria

 

[Lessifer]

Does ANYONE actually believe age restrictions are effective?

 

[AndriaD]

Does ANYONE actually believe age restrictions are effective?

Ivory-tower do-gooders, apparently. "So it shall be... because we said so."

Andria

 

[zoiDman]

Does ANYONE actually believe age restrictions are effective?

77% ?

LOL

 

[Lessifer]

77% ?

LOL

I don't even understand the reasoning behind it. You don't lower underage smoking rates by increasing the pool of "underage" citizens.

I would have expected this to get a lot of push back, from military personnel. Tourists will have issues as well.

 

[pennysmalls]

I don't even understand the reasoning behind it. You don't lower underage smoking rates by increasing the pool of "underage" citizens.

I hadn't thought of that. Funny and sad all in one.

 

[zoiDman]

I don't even understand the reasoning behind it. You don't lower underage smoking rates by increasing the pool of "underage" citizens.

I would have expected this to get a lot of push back, from military personnel. Tourists will have issues as well.

Above 18 is just Over Reach.

And was Probably done more for Personal Political Gains than for what the Discription of the Legislation said it would be Doing.

 

[Rossum]

Above 18 is just Over Reach.

We let them get away with it with respect to having a beer, so why not a smoke or a vape?

 

[zoiDman]

We let them get away with it with respect to having a beer, so why not a smoke or a vape?

I never saw anyone Run a Red Light and then T-Bone a Car while being under the Influence of Nicotine. But I have seen it while being Under the Influence of Other Things.

I'm OK with a 21+ Drinking age if a State's Population wants it.

But I'm not OK with a 21+ for Tobacco or e-Cigarettes. Even if there is a Popular Majority of the State's Residents.

 

[DC2]

Gotta protect the childrens.

In a true Nanny State we are all chidrens.
May as well raise the age to 65 and be done with it.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Lets raise the cell phone age to 21!
Underage texting is a horrible thing.

 

[AndriaD]

There actually was a very logical reason for increasing the drinking age to 21 -- so many accidents on the roads were those between 18-21, under the influence. I believe that since raising the drinking age to 21, that number has decreased dramatically.

But as Zoidman points out, being under the influence of nicotine doesn't have a single thing to do with anything, and it's just a stupid law. So sad, that such a beautiful state has such total lackwit ninnies running it.

Andria

 

[Kent C]

Too bad for all the vets stationed in Hawaii

Here's a good cause:
Vape A Vet

 

[Rossum]

I never saw anyone Run a Red Light and then T-Bone a Car while being under the Influence of Nicotine. But I have seen it while being Under the Influence of Other Things.

I'm OK with a 21+ Drinking age if a State's Population wants it.

But I'm not OK with a 21+ for Tobacco or e-Cigarettes. Even if there is a Popular Majority of the State's Residents.

I'd object less vehemently if it were really left to the individual states instead of being yet another example of the FedGov overriding the wishes of the people of most of the states:
National Minimum Drinking Age Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[this is my name]

I agree. It's not going to change anyone's behavior -- it'll just give the cops a whole new way to hassle young people.

Andria

More offenders = more fines
More fines = More money
More money = More unjust laws
More unjust laws = More offenders
Circle complete.

 

[zoiDman]

I'd object less vehemently if it were really left to the individual states instead of being yet another example of the FedGov overriding the wishes of the people of most of the states:
National Minimum Drinking Age Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I hear you. And that is Why I eluded to it in my Original Post.

 

[stillnotsmoking]

So you can fight on the front lines for uncle sam, but can't buy a pack of smokes? LOL, OK

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