Heather's Heavenly Vapes - THE BIG THREAD

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God, I love Submarine movies! The drama that can take place in such tight quarters is ridiculous!! Every single sub movie that I can recall seeing has been mind-blowing. Das Boot, The Hunt for Red October, K-19, U-571 and the one that I just got done watching, Crimson Tide has a special place in my movie lover heart.
 

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I'm so happy you had a great time :) welcome back!

Thaks Robin... it's so good when hubby and I get away together. Working together can be stressful at times so it's nice to get away from the office for sure. We had a lot of great company, good food, adult beverages, dancing oh and did actually learn about some new ideas for the shop, saw a couple of pieces we want to add to our stock so it was worth all the driving, but my hiney is tired.
 

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Hmmm I thought one of the reasons we have our newish home is because we don't keep it vape related? ;) :D :p

You know how that Heavenly Fire Marshall Dusty can be. He's a by the book kinda authority figure if I ever met one. First he calls me a dirty old man, when he is my age. Then he tries to keep the Big Thread "on topic". What's next?
 

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Watching Battleship. It is painful stuff here. Liam Neeson should be ashamed. And Alex Skarsgard, too. This is awful, dreadful stuff. Why do they keep trying to put Brooklyn Decker in movies? Now you know when I am criticizing a tall athletic blonde, her acting is abominable. Ugh.
 

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Watching Battleship. It is painful stuff here. Liam Neeson should be ashamed. And Alex Skarsgard, too. This is awful, dreadful stuff. Why do they keep trying to put Brooklyn Decker in movies? Now you know when I am criticizing a tall athletic blonde, her acting is abominable. Ugh.

But, there's that scene on the beach where she redeems herself. Highlight of the movie for me. :)


The pseudo transformers-esque machines were kinda cool too.
 

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I'm finally being disciplined about my steeping. Haven't dipped into my newest order yet. Probably has a lot to do with the fact that I still have about 150mls left to vape first. Maybe I will make my next order when I start vaping the newest one. Could be a great way to time steeping. I'd like to get into the habit of steeping juices a month and a half (NETs anyway) first before even trying them.
 

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I just have a few questions about this film

1) Okay, so the aliens come here from outer space, they bring five ships....

Do they need to call hope to ask to send more ships?
Don't they have more ships?
If they do, why do they have to phone home for them? Wouldn't not hearing from the five ships they sent be a good indication they needed to send more ships?
If they don't have more ships, why call home? What good would that do?
Why didn't they just send the ships to begin with, you know, hit us with overwhelming force?
Don't they have more air power? They send these massive ocean ships, but one flying saucer thing?
What happened to the force shield that had the last destroyer trapped?
How did they get so close to that island when they needed to in like three minutes when they said they were 120 miles away early in the movie? Was it a supersonic destroyer?

2) With regard to the transmission array...

If they were outside the force shield, why didn't any human jet planes from somewhere else help out to take out the communications array since it is the key to winning?
If they were inside the force shield, why didn't any human jet planes from pearl harbor help out?
If all they needed was three satellite dishes to call home to their planet, why didn't they just put three satellite dishes on every ship they sent? I mean, they had thousands of those bomb things, and dozens of those death ball things, couldn't they find room for three satellite dishes in the trunk or something?

3) With regards to the transmission/communication ship that got "broken up" by the weather satellite...

So the ship traveled millions of miles through space and was designed to enter the earth's atmosphere at thousands of miles per hour, but a collision with a weather satellite fatally damaged it?
If it was headed for pearl harbor, why did the mass of a satellite 1/10000 of it's mass knock it so far out of its path to china?
If phoning home was the key to victory, why didn't they use the force shield thing to protect the communication ship when it got close to earth?
If phoning home was the key to victory, why didn't they just send two communication ships, or three?
Why did it enter Earth's atmosphere at all. Couldn't it just remain in stationary orbit above Pearl Harbor and pass along messages, without subjecting it to danger on the surface? Did the aliens have all this technology but couldn't make a communications device good enough to send a transmission a few miles into space? Wouldn't you think every alien soldier would have a satellite phone good enough to do that?
If the force shield worked like they said, why did they send anything but communication ships with force shields?
Why not just do what I said above to phone home, why have a massive, yet exceedingly fragile ship that is the key to winning the whole deal?
Why did any of the ships enter Earth's atmosphere? Why didn't they just launch death balls from space while orbiting earth? The Death Balls were pretty unstoppable. Why not put half their forces on the surface and the other half in space so if things started to go wrong, they could just split, or wait for more help to arrive from the home planet?
Why?

Nothing made any sense at all....
 
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Is it at the end? I am still not through this. Not sure if I will make it either...does she speak in this scene? She is fine until she speaks.

Nope! I think it was the night before they "ship out".. I'll PM you a reminder of the scene. ;)
 

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Okay, so the aliens come here from outer space, they bring five ships....

Don't they have more ships?
Do they need to call hope to ask to send more ships?
Why didn't they just send the ships to begin with, you know, hit us with overwhelming force?
Don't they have more air power?
What happened to the force shield that had the last destroyer trapped?
How did they get so close to that island when they needed to in like three minutes?

With regard to the transmission array...
If they were outside the force shield, why didn't any planes from somewhere else help out?
If they were inside the force shield, why didn't any planes from pearl harbor help out?

With regards to the transmission ship that got "broken up"
So the ship traveled millions of miles through space and was designed to enter the earth's atmosphere at thousands of miles per hour, but a collision with a weather satellite fatally damaged it?
If it was headed for pearl harbor, why did the mass of a satellite 1/10000 of it's mass knock it so far out of its path to china?
If phoning home was the key to victory, why didn't they use the force shield thing when it got close to earth?
If phoning home was the key to victory, why didn't they just send two communication ships, or three?
If the force shield worked like they said, why did they send anything but communication ships with force shields?
Why?

Nothing made any sense at all.....

You're actually trying to make sense of this movie?! Dude, they did a broadside turn on a destroyer using a single anchor, at full speed and took out an alien space-ship... yeah, ok! Go watch the scene that I sent you, and turn it off. ;)
 

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Time to go to bed. A sad state of affairs in film, when this kind of thing is released to theaters. Thank God I did not pay for it...everyone associated with this awful spectacle is forever besmirched as far as I am concerned. It as if a part of me is forever gone, something is lost I can never get back, just seeing a thing like that. It reminds me of when I figured out Santa Claus was not real....

Now I know how Obi Wan felt when Alderaan was destroyed....
 

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Ah yes, but The Insider and A Beautiful Mind were brilliant.
:) (but Gladiator is my favourite all-time movie).

Like a lot of those guys. Not sure why Russell Crowe is only good for me in a certain type role. Liked him in Gladiator, not so much in Master and Commander (although the character did have a decent arc). He was abysmal in "Les Miserables", although Ann Hathaway was the only one it that that I thought was better than okay, so maybe it was a direction/script/production thing.
 
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Time to go to bed. A sad state of affairs in film, when this kind of thing is released to theaters. Thank God I did not pay for it...everyone associated with this awful spectacle is forever besmirched as far as I am concerned. It as if a part of me is forever gone, something is lost I can never get back, just seeing a thing like that. It reminds me of when I figured out Santa Claus was not real....

Now I know how Obi Wan felt when Alderaan was destroyed....

If you're trying to imply you fired that one up expecting it to be good, I'm not buying it. You're far smarter than that.
 

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I studied Henry V for my A-levels about a hundred years ago and got to go on a school trip to Stratford-on-Avon to see the man himself playing Henry V. (aahhhhh sigh.................:hubba:) He was spectacular and especially as the play itself is not one of the greatest Shakespeare wrote but was really just a bridge between Henry IV and Henry VI.

Also agree with the people saying Kenneth Branagh, fantastic actor but even better director. His Hamlet and Henry V are fantastic!
 

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OK. Just popped some Legend into a T3 on my Vamo after steeping a month and a half without touching it. Decided to go with the 30/70 bottle; I'll try the 70/30 tomorrow. Now both a rich dark liquid.

I have the opportunity to vape 70 day steeped Legend (Gandalf labeled, so I want to call it that).

It changed flavors!

It's fruity! I never tasted a hint of fruit before. Definitely got sweeter as well.

This bottle is part of my first HHV order, so it's been steeping for quite a while now. It's changed so much! After I discovered Dragon's Fire, I shelved the 2 bottles of Gandalf from my first HHV order. Been re-ordering DF over and over again, and others; but the gandy just sat there.

Now I'm considering ordering more just so I can steep it this long again. I wonder how many people have by-passed this juice because it hasn't steeped long enough. This is AMAZING. Never new an e-liquid could change this much even after a month of steeping. It's like it's a new HHV juice!

*vaping*

I'm really loving this new found sweetness. Almost a buttery fruit quality. I can FINALLY taste the connection to Serendipity as well.

Legend is now on my list of don't touch until 2 months is up.

edit: that list is just one liquid, btw, lol.
 
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If you're trying to imply you fired that one up expecting it to be good, I'm not buying it. You're far smarter than that.

No, it was a summer action movie. I expected it to be big explosions, action sequences, aliens with awesome technology that sometimes act like blockheads, etc. I did not expect a perfect, tight script. I did expect that the basic premise of the movie would be sound. Here is an example:

*MINOR SPOILER ALERT FOR LOOPER* This spoiler will not 'ruin' the movie, but it does tell of an event in the movie.

In the movie Looper, the premise is that people are sent back in time so that they can be killed in 2040 to avoid the almost impossible tracking systems of 2080, which make murder in that time nearly impossible. So what happens when the old character Bruce Willis is playing has his time run out? The mob guys show up to his house to take him to the time machine to "close the loop". When they come in to get him, and his wife is there, they shoot and kill her immediately. WHAT? I thought the whole idea of time travel was that there was no way to kill anyone in 2080?!? Plot hole. I was able to forgive this and move on. It happens in movies. This one hole happens and is over, and it does not affect further sequences because she is dead and I am free to move forward after the event.

In BATTLESHIP, the basic premise is flawed. The story is based around the fact that the alien communications ship was damaged on entry into earth's orbit by a satellite. Because this event happens, the aliens plan to take over the world is in jeopardy. So when telling a story, if you want the audience to care what is happening, you have to explain why this is important. They never do anything like this. It is natural to wonder why the aliens need to contact their planet. Then in the movie they have the aliens needing to take and hold this human communications satellite dish array so they can contact their planet from earth. Again, this makes you ask why they need to. Why they don't have a better plan, why they are acting stupidly, etc. When a story is build on a faulty premise, it comes up over and over and over. You can't escape it, because you started out with this premise as many of the character's motivation. One plot hole is one thing, but the whole idea of a conflict that is supposed to drive character development arcs, build tension, help the audience identify/connect with characters, show a twist in the story line, etc. has to be sound, or you find that you just don't care about anything going on.

I expected the acting to be iffy. I expected cheesy one liners, I expected a sound track that was ripped off from another movie, etc. I also expected the backbone of the story to be connected. This one was not. All of those questions I ask are critical to the basic story and why the story is supposed to matter. "Save the earth from alien invasion" is the premise of the movie. I knew that going in, and so I don't blame it for being a simple plot direction, I just want it to be a contiguous, sensible, and logical simple plot direction. IF you pick a simple plot like that, it should be easy to make sense with the events, the connections that are made, and reasons that drive it. When the story makes no sense, I feel insulted by the writers, director, actors, producers, etc. because they think I am so stupid I will not notice these things. That is my issue with the movie. They spend 200 million on this movie, and the script should have been thrown in the incinerator. How did it come to that?
 
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