Heavy smoker needs help - Vaping not working so far

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Lung pain. Me too. Ok all you vapors, if you do have a slightly clogged tight pain in your lung area since vaping, what pg/vg mix and type of carto/atty ohm/volt are you using? Maybe we can see a trend because I only get lung pains from one of my rigs.

Ego-c;
type-a standard resistance atty
standard 1000ma passtgrough ego-c battery
80/20 pg/vg
NO LUNG PAIN whatsoever.
50/50 pg/vg
Little lung pain if I hit it too hard too much.
Very consistent cloudy vapor.

Clearomizer ce5 (and ce4)
Standard resistance
Standard voltage
Slight to moderate pain if I take big ole hits no mater what the mix is. Smaller hits, less to no pain.
(seems to be less effective atomizing here) good vapor most of the time, sometimes not enough and once in a while a big ole fatty cloud!)

I think my lungs just can't absorb the ejuice base fast enough yet because my lungs are TRASHED from almost 25 years of chain smoking! Yep that may be the problem.
 

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Sorry for your lost. i have been researching for 2 months. first off dont bother with the ciggarette size ecigs. u need something that produces more vapor and flavor. there are way to many mods and styles to just choose one. the silver bullet by altsmoke seems to be very reliable and cost effective mod. you may want to try using a cartomizer/tank set up, or for more vapor and flavor, try dripping. im no expert but i do lots of research before trying something. you can go on youtube and find lots of videos that will help you decide what style of vaping may be best for you(i watch grimmgreen youtube channel) this is just one of the people i found on youtube that is very imformative and knowledgeable about vaping. Dont give up, u just havent found what works for you YET.
 

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what worked for me, was honestly getting a setup that is better than a disposable, something that you can atleast refill.... then for the liquid, a sweetish tobacco, like ry4 or 555. The reason that I recommend those flavors, is so that you are getting the tobacco taste but better. Then after you have cut down by 1/2, and have made it a couple of days smoke free, THEN IMO you ought to get a bigger battery ect. Mind you I have heard of people that have been using e-cigs and have not fully quit for months, so it's ok, don't make yourself guilty. I have been 100% smoke free for only 7 days and have no desire to smoke a cigarette. Good luck!
 

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So all week, I had only 1 or 2 real cigs each day. Most days just 1, sometimes, even just 1/2. And yesterday, I went the whole entire day without a cig. I was really proud of myself. But today I was dying for one, so I lit up this morning. Something keeps me going back, man. I'm telling you - there's something else addictive in those cigs that has me hooked, not just the nicotine.

Vaping has been a strange experience, and I really still don't know if it's gonna work for me. So many problems with the equipment - 1 vivi fell apart, my Stardust clearomizer won't work, my attys are not working well anymore (6 of them), my first ego-c twist won't take a charge anymore and I had to send it back. Also, it takes so much time getting everything setup, and I've spent a lot of cash already. But more importantly, I'm still not experiencing the joys of quitting smoking. My sense of smell and taste have not gotten any better. I still crave real cigarettes. My lungs still hurt almost everyday from chain vaping. And if I don't chain vape, I get serious cigarette cravings. And since I'm vaping so much, I think I'm getting MORE nicotine than I did before. It feels that way, anyway. Might be one of the reasons I can't sleep at night lately. I feel like I'm going 100 mph every minute of every day. That's the opposite of real smokes - they used to calm me down. I'm feeling high anxiety all the time now since vaping. My wife also commented to me a similar thing. Initially, she seemed really happy that she stopped smoking real cigs (although I found out she's actually been having about 1/2 of one each day in the morning before I wake up.) Anyway, her battery died at work the other day, and the spare was at home, so for about 3 hours she had to go without vaping. She told me her desire to smoke was very high, and if she had a cigarettes she would have smoked them. She was disappointed because she thought her cravings for cigarettes had all but disappeared, only to find out she wanted one just as bad as ever.

So I'm not sure if we just need to give it more time, change some things, or whatnot. Any thoughts? :blink:
 

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Ok Pwitte. I think you have hit a lightbulb moment with the "there may be more to it than nicotine"

Lots of folks who have a rough go with nicotine eliquid alone find a second substitute to be Whole Tobacco Alcoloids(WTA for short) This is gaining in form and function among those who are still willing to try something that is vaping but derived directly from tobaccco itself. These "other chemicals" that are in tobacco seem to be the ones most vapers who are having trouble gettin over the hump into vaping are missing. There is a plethora of info available here just search WTA in the upper corner.

You could also substitute Swedish Snus which has all the major chemicals from tobacco and would be more readily available on a retail type level, and this combined with vaping just may be that silver bullet you have been searching for to finally bury that beast that is breathing down your neck. Dont Give Up, You have made it so far. Good Luck. Let Us Know what happens.
 
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Hi folks, I joined a few weeks ago and have not been back since. Pretty busy life. But, I have to tell you, I am back today because I can see that I am coming up against the same sort of impasse the original poster has. The day I bought my first Cig2O at the gas station, I bought a pack of my usual smokes. Now it is over 11 weeks later and I never opened it. I don't even know where it is!! I actually think one of my daughters jacked it!! Anyway, what has worked well for me so far is beginning to fail. I am pretty sure I am past due an upgrade.

Hours of mind numbing research later, I find I am no closer to deciding what that upgrade is... It would be great if I had a brick and mortar store to browse through, but the only thing even close to that is some kiosk in the mall selling one specific brand. I am willing to bet that every component is proprietary and I just refuse to be a captive customer.

I do know what I want though. Plenty of vapor, clean flavor and easy upkeep. I have pretty much decided I will end up leaving the KR808 behind even though I much prefer the small form. I have gone from fiber stuffed cartomizers to clear refillable ones and that greatly improved flavor but there is a somewhat unacceptable degree of failure in these. Crack and leak ect.

I guess it would help for me to hear from someone who had the same experience I am currently having. What got you past the first level, where did you purchase it, was it reasonably priced? Thanks for any guidance.
 

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So all week, I had only 1 or 2 real cigs each day. Most days just 1, sometimes, even just 1/2. And yesterday, I went the whole entire day without a cig. I was really proud of myself. But today I was dying for one, so I lit up this morning. Something keeps me going back, man. I'm telling you - there's something else addictive in those cigs that has me hooked, not just the nicotine.

Vaping has been a strange experience, and I really still don't know if it's gonna work for me. So many problems with the equipment - 1 vivi fell apart, my Stardust clearomizer won't work, my attys are not working well anymore (6 of them), my first ego-c twist won't take a charge anymore and I had to send it back. Also, it takes so much time getting everything setup, and I've spent a lot of cash already. But more importantly, I'm still not experiencing the joys of quitting smoking. My sense of smell and taste have not gotten any better. I still crave real cigarettes. My lungs still hurt almost everyday from chain vaping. And if I don't chain vape, I get serious cigarette cravings. And since I'm vaping so much, I think I'm getting MORE nicotine than I did before. It feels that way, anyway. Might be one of the reasons I can't sleep at night lately. I feel like I'm going 100 mph every minute of every day. That's the opposite of real smokes - they used to calm me down. I'm feeling high anxiety all the time now since vaping. My wife also commented to me a similar thing. Initially, she seemed really happy that she stopped smoking real cigs (although I found out she's actually been having about 1/2 of one each day in the morning before I wake up.) Anyway, her battery died at work the other day, and the spare was at home, so for about 3 hours she had to go without vaping. She told me her desire to smoke was very high, and if she had a cigarettes she would have smoked them. She was disappointed because she thought her cravings for cigarettes had all but disappeared, only to find out she wanted one just as bad as ever.

So I'm not sure if we just need to give it more time, change some things, or whatnot. Any thoughts? :blink:

I've been going through very similar situation as you.

First the tough love:
Stop going on about equipment failing: Real cigarettes you would have a dud lighter and go ape mad looking for one; couple rain drops and that thing was done; ran out of them daily, or more than daily, and had no problem comming up with a fresh pack, no problem packing them and unwrapping them, no problem disposing of the plastic and tinfoil bit, no problem rummaging for a lighter and then finally getting your toke on. I spend about ten minutes a day maintaining e-cigs, i have plenty of spares (heck they are cheap ya know). Ok so i guess that's my pet peave about e-cigs.... don't confuse side effects of quitting smoking with vaping. I am sorry about the tough love.
But it will continue now.. I have broken clearomizers, i have destroyed cartos, i have vaped dry wicks, dry dry dry, i have run out of juice, i have run out of time, i have run out of patience, i have run out of cigaretes hundreds of times in 25 years, i have left equipment at home and had to buy disposables, i have bought kits that sucked, i have bought cigarettes i knew i didn't like because the store didn't have any of mine left, i have searched the house for that old junky kit i bought at the corner store and vaped it's horrible noxious nasty juice to get me by, i have run batteries dead i have been trapped in rooms i can't vape in, i live in a state/country/world that hates smokers and won't let them smoke hardly any where, i have fallen out of a boat twenty miles from shore in the ocean with my cigarettes now sopping wet in my pocket --- dried them out in the sun and smoked the putrid mess unfiltered, i have vaped with no tip and no top cap on my mini nova.... because that is what i had to do. Ok, now it's really done. I have been embarassed of vaping, i have been emberassed and harrassed because of smoking. Done.

I too have had a horrible time getting completely clean of stinkies. Longest i have gone in the 1.5 months since i started vaping by accident, then quitting by accident; has been two weeks, twice. Then i would hit some brick wall and break down and have a smoke. Seems to me there -then becomes a decision: man up and grit your teeth and just don't smoke, simple. Or chicken out like me and have a smoke, get over it, and move on. Every day i think about having a smoke, at least twice a day. But for whatever reason, i can usually muster up the courage to wait an hour or three and then re-consider my options... usually i no longer want a smoke, just a vape. Sometimes i still really want a smoke, and if the craving returns i smoke. Big deal.

Every time i have a smoke i feel a wide array of emotions: disgust, bad breath (not an emotion i know), sadness, loser, weak, sap, chump, sucker, failure.... king of the expletive world because i just went x amount of time without a expletive cigarette, and guess what, i'm proud of that!

The problem: Every time i smoke i go through the whole quitting thing again. Psychologically, physically.
The addiction:
1. Nicotine. very real, very tough.
2. Physical. Hand to mouth, short walk to get to a smoking spot, everything about it, the habit is this addiction.
3. Mental. The ups and downs of quitting. (really are they that different from the ups and downs of smoking?).
4. The other garbage in cigarettes. This. Correction... THIS is my issue. So i will elaborate a bit. Smoked for 25 years, smoked heavy for 20 of them, smoked exceedingly riculously for ten of them, smoked a dead man's curse for three of them. I inhaled so many chemicals over the years that there is absolutely no friggin way in heck that i only got addicted to one of them, nicotine... that's for teenagers... My wishfully long lost friend Mr. Marlboro put so much garbage in my Lights that it is astonishing i could walk to the gas station to get a pack without my lungs spurting black gooieee tar based blood on the sidewalk. For whatever reason, I, me, can go about a day without these 'other chemicals' and barely notice, i can go two days and be okay with it, I can go a week and deal with it, I ME, cannot get past two weeks without them. This is probably because i'm not strong willed enough for this addiction (heck i can't go a few hours without nicotine, so a few days....), this part of it is tough for Me. I'm not a chemist, and don't want to be. But i do know that there is junk in stinkies other than nicotine that I 'need'. I had similar issues with nicorette, patches... all the nicotine replacement therapies.... it wasn't just nicotine i need, crave, want, love, hate, chase, dream of, die for. WTA? is that what i need? don't know yet, it is on order. Having a smoke every two weeks.... no longer an option for me... i'm over them... how, why? Snus, i tried some yesterday. That nasty little pouch perked my lilly color .... right up. Is 'snus-ing' == 'quitting'? Don't know don't care, it's not a cigarette... one thing at a time. Is it healthy? I suppose it is debatable, but from what i have found.... it's better health than smoking, and doesn't continue the habit of smoking as much. Me, i'm not going to smoke any more stinkies. If i have to buy a plane ticket and fly to an airport that has a smoking lounge, and stand in there for a day to collect second hand smoke... i will do it, but i'm not smoking another cigarette. This has to be my mentality going forward. No stinkies. If i have to shove a pouch of carefully scrubbed salty sweet nasty tobacco in my lip.... then i will do that. (I'm not saying you should start on Snus, i'm just saying its an option, a consideration... actually i suggest that you don't if at all possible... i'm just saying that i am) If i have to order WTA juice, cross my fingers it will work for me, that is okay with me. If i have to rescue a dog so i can yell at something when i want to yell, and hug something when i want to hug, and play catch with something when i want to play catch, and go for a walk with something when i want to go for a walk (sounded funny typing that, but i'm actually looking into rescuing a dog for those reasons, and to help out an animal of course.) (plus, hey, hey you, i can walk now, i can walk briskly, i can do lots of things now that i am barely smoking at all), then i will in fact, do those things. What is your mentality going to be?

If e-cigs aren't doing it for you, then I say there has to be something beyond nicotine that you need (or just be patient and hope for the best or whatever). Something beyond the habit, and beyond the mental and physical barriers. The e-cig is astonishingly good at all of these.

Then again... everything i just said could be total rubbish..

Could be that you and I (this whole post is really about me btw, feel free to substitute me/i/we for you anywhere in this post), we may just need to man up, grit our teeth, deal with the cravings, and see if they disappear. It's a free world, choose. Red or blue pill?

Oh and let's drink more water too.
Oh and the other option: chill out dude, you're doing great!

Reality: You have succeeded in cutting way down on cigarettes, i am proud of you, and i wish you the best of luck, and the yummiest and biggest vapor cloud [or small cloud if being discrete]. Congratulations!
 

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pwitte, I haven't read all the posts (max :)) in this thread, but you have gotten a lot of great advise! I just want to throw in something.

Two things that David at freedomsmokeuse told me that got me off the stinkies.

1) Get 36mg pall mall menthol. (If you already found something, you're good)

2) Most important! DON'T STRESS about quiting! 1 or 2 is a great start! He said, "vape all you want. Smoke when you have to. And one day you'll wake up and say Hey! I didn't have a cig yesterday!"

I see you stressing about it. I was still smoking 1-2 a day for 3-4 weeks before I quit totally. Now its been 2 years since my last one!

DONT STRESS IT!! You ARE on the right track.
 

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Pwitte,

Just a few words for you to think on, stop worrying about how many cigs you have smoked... start counting how many you haven't smoked...there is always a positive in every thing. Give it time and things will get better, don't stress. We all had to learn to deal with battery failure or juice that didn't taste right or the clearo that just simply died for no reason. Take time to breathe deeply and decide are you in this battle to win? If you are.... then carry on, vape when it works and smoke when it doesn't but ALWAYS focus on the positive not the negative of what you are doing. You will always get support here, anytime you need it.

Something I read in another thread a little while ago, I wish I could remember who said it, but it was good advice and may help you to think differently about stopping the tobacco. You are not stopping smoking....you are changing your brand of cigarettes, from the old fashioned analogues to the new electronic, some other time in your life you will have switched brands I am sure, try to think of this the same way, this sometimes helps with the mindset that you are not actually giving up anything, just changing with the times.

Stay strong I have confidence in you, I have seen your positive posts in this thread.
 

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I will chime in here. Gonna have to agree with the tough love thing a bit. Hold on, here me out. At some point when you have shelled out $$ for all your vaping gear, you either have a lot of cash, and can afford to buy those marlboros or whatever in addition to your new hobby, or you are tapped and have to use the vape gear/supplies you have because that is all you have.'

Am I someone who picked up an e cig at a gas station and thought it was the greatest thing ever? No, I wasn't too thrilled in the first place, but it started growing on me. Hey I can take use this and not reek up my house, and yes, I even blew into a kleenex just to see if anyone could see/smell it. No one could. So I just decided that I wasn't gonna keep spending almost $9.68 a day on something that made my house stink while I had other options.
Today is 42 days for me. It really sucked the first two weeks. We had a big storm and lost power a few days. No biggie for the most part but for a soon to be ex smoker it was big. But I did it. You can do it too. I never thought I would make it this far. Never.
Every cigarette you don't smoke is a win. You can do this, and there are a lot of people here who can help.
 
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