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djsvapour

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Have you read the earlier post about Kik by NealBjr? They state their nicotine is extracted from a nicotine plant but there is no such thing!
Yes.. this has come up on some UK forums. It is marketing BS.
The Nicotiana plant is, of course, tobacco.
Bad of them to get into this low-honesty clap trap. I'll let trading standards know.
 
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Has anyone tried juice from Bestcigliquid? I bought some of their samplers - five 6ml bottles for £10 (or it could have been £9, I can't remember). The watermelon is fantastic, I got the 12mg strength for use in the evening to prevent insomnia and it's my favourite by far. Anyone else got any favourites?
Bestcig have a good reputation. I'm vaping 6mg Hangsen tonight.... RY6.... like normal.
If you are off the tobacco flavours, I don't recommend it.

LT e-cigs "Caramel Deluxe" (£5.40 for 30ml) is probably my favourite sweet liquid.
 

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Just broke out the old trusty CE5 to compare airflows. I just got the kanger subtank mini today, so I am trying it out as well. The airflow of the Subtank fully closed is about the same as the CE5. Even fully closed, a tiny bit of air comes between the airflow control ring on the subtank. I have a .5 ohm coil, and I lowered it to 15w (3.0V). Flavor wise, it's much better than the CE5. I'm using an old coil in the CE5, but the flavor is so dramatically different even at that low setting, that I doubt even with a new coil, the CE5 would perform better. I have a lemon bar cake flavor in the tank, and the lemon flavor is so pronounced in the subtank, it tickles my nose. On the CE5, it smells like lemon, but doesn't tickle. The one airhole setting on the kanger is what I call max for a mouth to lung inhale. It's not something I recommend for mouth to lung inhales, but it's still too tight for direct lung inhales. The two and full open settings are for direct to lung inhales.

... this is the first time I've tried to vape with the subtank fully closed.

I haven't tried the Nautilus tanks. I used a protank for a while and got disheartened with Aspire. I'm a firm kangertech fan now. :) That's not to say Aspire makes good products or designs, it's just I haven't tried them lately... vape budgets. :)

Neal that is such helpful information, thank you very much for doing that comparison! I am trying to cut back on spending a lot of money on new setups that I end up not liking, so this is great feedback, The Subtank is on my list of tanks to consider buying with your good view of the flavor, but also due to your input I am holding off for a while to see if something new that's highly rated for mouth to lung hits comes out, though the Subtank sounds like a contender!
 
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Thanks Chrissie, I just found another nautilus mini on one of these sites on sale for £10. A lot of their juices are also on sale for £1.50 so I chose the ones I want but was gutted when I went to checkout as the nautilus mini is out of stock. Back in stock in a week so I'm gonna wait as postage is £4 so best to get both together then. The nautilus heads are also on sale for £5 but they're also out of stock so I'll get a couple of packs of those too when they're back in stock. Your list is so long it'll probably take me a week to check out if there's any more bargains to be had lol.
 
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Thanks Chrissie, I just found another nautilus mini on one of these sites on sale for £10. A lot of their juices are also on sale for £1.50 so I chose the ones I want but was gutted when I went to checkout as the nautilus mini is out of stock. Back in stock in a week so I'm gonna wait as postage is £4 so best to get both together then. The nautilus heads are also on sale for £5 but they're also out of stock so I'll get a couple of packs of those too when they're back in stock. Your list is so long it'll probably take me a week to check out if there's any more bargains to be had lol.
Kaydi...

Is it possible they are saying £10 (mini Nautilus) and £5 for coils BECAUSE they are sold out?
Only a shop that was closing down would sell these products for these prices.
mini Nautilus is £15 from China...
Did the shop have a name?
 

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Have you read the earlier post about Kik by NealBjr? They state their nicotine is extracted from a nicotine plant but there is no such thing!

This little gem caught my attention on their site.

Why is the burnt taste after changing my e-liquid?
Your vapour may taste burnt after inserting a new e-liquid. Wait for the e-liquid to set for a few minutes and then you can enjoy the delicious flavour.

For something on the FAQ page they really don't address the issue of what is happening during the dry hit. Dodgy company, imo.
 

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Kaydi...

Is it possible they are saying £10 (mini Nautilus) and £5 for coils BECAUSE they are sold out?
Only a shop that was closing down would sell these products for these prices.
mini Nautilus is £15 from China...
Did the shop have a name?
Sorry I meant to say in my post - it's called lastcig.co.uk. Check it out n let me know ok?
 

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I'm working my way through your list and so far I've found juice at £1.50 for 10ml at coolvape and ten 10ml bottles for £10 at eliquidworld, post free but flavours are randomly chosen by them. I still decided to go for it but it wouldn't let me add anything to the cart! I then found juice reduced from £2.99 to 99p at euphoricvaping and have ordered 7, postage £1.30. I found this site very annoying as it made you go through choosing strength, flavour and size before telling you it was out of stock! Even so the juice is a bargain I couldn't resist.
 

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Interesting you say something doesn't sit right with the Kik website as I feel the same. I find it very strange there is no mention of the pg/vg mix in their juice either on the bottles or on the website and found the site amateurish. I didn't know there is no such thing as a nicotine plant but they should have!! I've stopped using the Kik juice because of what it does to my head and I'm going to complain when I go to the store again as it was £19 wasted. The young lad who runs the Kik stall in my local store admitted he doesn't understand about pg/vg mixing!

The salesmen at the stall shouldn't really be blamed fully. It is probably a franchise setting, and it was some lad who wants to get into the Ecig industry without knowing the product. If it's not a franchise setting, he's probably hired for his sales skills and not ecig knowledge. Kind of like going to Walmart and asking the lady behind the counter about PG/VG ratios.. they just won't know. I ran into a similar incidence With a company named Greensmoke. There was a stall in a nearby mall, and they sold the Greensmoke products. The salesman was very knowledgeable about the Greensmoke line of products, and touted them as the best in the market. That was all well and good, as every manufacturer should think they make the best product. But when I started asking anything in details, that's when the salesman shows his limits. I first asked about the product and listened to the sales pitch. When no other shopper was around I pulled out my Nemesis and squape original (what I used at the time) and proceeded to ask some questions like PG/VG ratios, origins of their liquid, coil information, etc. He knew little about how they worked. He did know the manufacturer of the liquid, but didn't know much about ratios and some of the fine details.

This is why I recommend the smaller mom and pop places if you have one near me. Many of the smaller shops carry a wide variety of products and aren't limited to knowing only one particular brand. They should know about how things are made, and they've probably had questions asked and the nitpicking details about ecigs. I still don't look down on these small stalls unless the products are obviously cheaply made. The whole idea behind Ecigs is to get people to stop smoking, and they have a broader client base than a lone person (me) walking around. I would rather have them introduce someone to the possibilities to ecigarettes, than those people still smoking. Later, I'm sure many of their customers will go on to other items, but at least they will be on the right track to quitting.

If the Kik line of juice is giving you problems, then move on. They've at least peaked your interest in quitting. I do question their site and quality and their marketing strategy seems more like a used car salesman. The fact that you're on ECF and asking questions means you're "past their level". Keep asking more questions, and use other's reviews to make an educated decision on your next ecig and ejuice.
 

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Does anyone know of Eversmoke and their reputation? Long before I joined here I ordered an Eversmoke starter kit (15/5/15) which has never arrived. They answered my first email and said it had got damaged in transit and had been returned to their warehouse but they would resend it. I then answered saying not to resend as I no longer needed it but received no reply. I then sent another email asking what was happening as I'd heard nothing and had not received the kit. Again I got no reply, these I sent by clicking Reply at the bottom of the email they sent me and it didn't say it was a no reply email so they should have received them. After waiting several days for them to reply I then checked my PayPal account and found the £32.74 had been completed even though it had stated I wouldn't have to pay until I received the goods! I then sent them an email by going to their website and got a reply that time but it said they were unable to find my account, either by my email address or the order number and they asked for more details. I replied again by clicking reply on the email giving them the details and I even sent a screen shot of my invoice but they have not answered. I'm going to try one last time by going to their site and contacting them and if that fails to get a response then I'm going to contact PayPal to try to get my money back.
 

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Sorry I meant to say in my post - it's called lastcig.co.uk. Check it out n let me know ok?

I wish I had more experience in the latest CE5 style products. The aspire nautilus and CE5-S products seem to be a better solution for a first time ecig user. I haven't used a CE5 in a while, and it seems they have went from a top coil design to a bottom coil design. I might just have to buy a set to educate myself and check them out.

With the industry nowadays, it's hard to know if the product is a clone, an authentic, or they're just having a sale to clear out the stock. The clone market has gotten pretty good at replicating a devices looks. Without seeing one beside an original, I do not know if it's authentic or not. Whether or not it's authentic is a personal choice. I myself use a lot of clones, but I do that with the knowledge that it may be an imperfect copy. Tiny details can make a big difference in the quality of an item. As an example...

My subtank nano is a known clone. I bought it to test the technology, and realized it was a good technology for me. Knowing it was a clone though, I go over everything with a fine tooth comb for defects. metal shavings in the threads is one thing to look out for, needing to clean the tank from the machining process is another. Kangertech and Aspire both do a good job at producing a ready to vape product, but the clones are more on the cost cutting side and will cut corners. In my case with the subohm nano, it was the cleaning and the fact they made the 510 screws a millimeter too long. This put the 510 threads flush with the center contact, which is not a safe thing to do. a quick touch up on a grinder fixed that and I do have a good subtank, but I've been using ecig products for a while and know things to look out for.

When I am looking for an authentic product, I scrutinize the seller first. I look for evidence of shady sales tactics. Every product, whether authentic or not, will have some negative comments. Ego batteries will not last for a long time is one comment I regularly see, Citrus flavors cracking plastic tanks is another. I don't see many reviews on that site, and the few I do see are 4/5 stars. Compare the reviews on lastcig, then check out some reviews from Mt. Baker Vapor . I'm not saying lastcig is a bad site, since they don't have many reviews, but They've been in the business for almost 2 years.. surely they have more.
 

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I'm going to try one last time by going to their site and contacting them and if that fails to get a response then I'm going to contact PayPal to try to get my money back.

Kaydi - you should be raising this with PayPal NOW. No waiting. You have 45 days total, and 30 of those have gone.
 
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Kaydi - you should be raising this with PayPal NOW. No waiting. You have 45 days total, and 30 of those have gone.
Thanks djsvapour, I just went to the PayPal site and it said to contact the seller to try to resolve this matter so I sent them an email from their address there which is different. I told them I am going to get my money refunded by PayPal, if I get no reply by tomorrow then I'll then take it further with PayPal. It said I have 180 days to do this, I always thought it was 45 days as you said but it definitely said 180 so I should be ok.
 

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Thanks djsvapour, I just went to the PayPal site and it said to contact the seller to try to resolve this matter so I sent them an email from their address there which is different. I told them I am going to get my money refunded by PayPal, if I get no reply by tomorrow then I'll then take it further with PayPal. It said I have 180 days to do this, I always thought it was 45 days as you said but it definitely said 180 so I should be ok.
Maybe you get 180 days once you have made the initial complaint?
I thought PayPal will not help you after 45 days if they have nothing at all on their system.
 
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Maybe you get 180 days once you have made the initial complaint?
I thought PayPal will not help you after 45 days if they have nothing at all on their system.
Their exact words after telling you to contact the seller to try to resolve the matter are You can still report the problem in the resolution centre within 180 days. I think they must have changed it, probably because 45 days was not long enough especially when dealing with overseas. I used the resolution centre when I bought fake oral b toothbrush heads and it took longer than 45 days to get the proof that they were in fact fake but they made an exception and I got a full refund. But I do remember it was only 45 days then. I'll check it out online to see if it's been extended ok.
 
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