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Just Curious: What are some of those More Important things for you?
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No argument there.
Just Curious: What are some of those More Important things for you?
Seems like that is Kinda Universal with Half of the Population.
Anything besides that? Perhaps some e-Cigarette Related?
You Cool with the way the FDA Works, Potential Flavor Bans, Nicotine mg Limits, the CDC Reports, Local and State Use Bans, Taxation Legislation Popping Up Left and Right?
Or is None of this Important to you because it Doesn't Effect you?
You must be wealthy since 400 would not make a diffrence to you. I have other things to spend my money on as well and 400 a month could make a major diffrnece in my life and i am sure it would for a lot of other people. If that was not the case people would not shop all the sales and use coupons. they do it to save where they can so it can be used on other things.
I agree that vaping shouldn't be lumped together with smoking. But until enough studies are done to prove that it's safer than smoking, they are going to put them together. I can't really blame them for that either. It's a liability all the same. I don't know enough about insurance to know if they regulate alcohol the same way. If someone gets cirrhosis will they pay for the transplant? When I smoked and signed up for insurance I put that I was a non smoker. I didn't even know that my rates would be higher if I smoked. I just didn't think it was their business to know that. If they pay for a new liver for an alcoholic why would they not pay for treatment for lung cancer?
I hate insurance companies for many reasons and have experience with them denying claims that were valid because they didn't want to pay for medication. I have a damaged stomach from years of taking NSAIDs because they wouldn't approve Celebrex for my arthritis. They would rather pay for the ulcer treatment than a name brand med. The whole thing just doesn't make any sense to me.
I hate insurance companies for many reasons and have experience with them denying claims that were valid because they didn't want to pay for medication. I have a damaged stomach from years of taking NSAIDs because they wouldn't approve Celebrex for my arthritis. They would rather pay for the ulcer treatment than a name brand med. The whole thing just doesn't make any sense to me.
Don't Fool Yourself.
If our Friend was suddenly hit with a Added Charge to his Insurance because he was a "Smoker", I think he would be Spouting Blue Thunder about how Wrong things are.
It's the fact that it Hasn't Happened to him is why he Doesn't give a Rat's A... about things.
I'll be long gone by the time anything of significance happens...
Sorry to hear you are in Such Poor Health.
How many Months did they say you have Left?
What is it like to live in a world where the only person who matters is yourself?
Via a possessed phone thats autocorrect is just silly
youre right its not socialism, that would be a single insurance company (.gov), gov dictating what what happens in the economy without owning it would be fascism.
Studies have shown, and common sense dictates that it's actually the so called 'healthy' people that create a bigger burden on the healthcare system.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748884.html
Studies also shown that people driving cars are far likely to need medical care because of traffic related incidents. I don't drive so can everybody driving a car, or worse a motorbike, start coughing up some bucks please. Or give me a discount. I think driving is a very bad habit and it is also the cause of a fair percentage of air pollution.
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I don't know if I posted on this thread yet or not (it seems a little old,) but my husband and I used 0 nicotine liquids for exactly one week prior to the blood test last year and passed as non-smokers. We will be doing the same for our test this October, as the ACA allowance kicked in and his company is now charging 50% more for those found to have nicotine in their blood!
Hi, from all I've read on this thread and all I see happening, both in General society and the work place I have come to the conclusion that what smokers and vapers need is a good set of lobbiests ( I know thats spelled wrong but I'm on a roll here). I think we all need to have our disability (consumption of nicotine in any form) declared as such. We need to lobby for a disability declaration from Social Security for all Nicotine addicts. This has already been done for Alcoholics, Hard drug addicts, Diabetics, Back pain sufferers, etc,etc, etc! this would allow us all to continue our prefered addiction and outlaw anyone from targeting us (this would be descrimination) and would fall under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I belive that even Insurance companies could not then raise rates for Nicotine test results. Face it we are a Minority and need to pusue the laws governing how people are allowed to treat us as a Minority( with a Disability(. Just think of all the Money we could get out of howerver many Gov. sources we could find. Not to mention the Dept. of Justice would have to defend us if we are harrased. Now the problem is how do we afford a Multi Million Dollar Lobbiest?
All's I knows is... Our company made us do a cotene last year. I am one of the heaviest smokers (now vaper) within our company; I smoke two packs a day. Anyway, even after coming off of break time and smoking three cigarettes, I had to go put a cotton swab in my mouth for a few minutes. It actually took 45 minutes to absorb the saliva from my mouth. I told them that it may take a while, because I have more nicotine in my system than I do saliva in my body. They laughed. When my results came back, I tested negative for nicotine. If that doesn't show just how competent this test is, I don't know what does.
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