High end RTAs

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TheotherSteveS

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Virtually no innovation? Hmm, ok.

I guess companies like Joytech, smok, Aspire and Yihi didnt innovate on anything. I think you need to do some research. Ive been in this a long time. Really kinda racist and factually incorrect. Also incredibly embarrassing and offensive to see this kind of nonsense.


Ok, I was going to let this one ride but I just noticed this ridiculous remark. You need to to do some research and read the title of the thread. We are not discussing mods here. I was not referring to mods just rta's (since that's what the thread is about) and i said nothing of the sort anyway. I suggest you leave your patronising, sanctimonious and frankly unhinged BS out of this thread which, until you arrived, was really quite nice...The only person who should be embarrassed here is you buddy..
 

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I like the pmma top for the Hussar. I wanted the dome but couldn't find one so I grabbed this. Anything to get away from the built in drip tip! I'm actually kinda glad the we're out of the ss.
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I like the pmma top for the Hussar. I wanted the dome but couldn't find one so I grabbed this. Anything to get away from the built in drip tip! I'm actually kinda glad the we're out of the ss.
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Nooooooo...dont do this. I have the dome cap but this looks really nice! I can't invest any more in this rta can i?? ;)
 

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Yes I take them out all the time and they never leak. The only con is that they're difficult to fill, otherwise I would never use anything else. I prefer a really strict M2L and you can get that with the Digiflavor and the restrictor, by setting it to the smallest hole and closing that half way through.

Thanks soulseek... Now I know I can take my smaller , more compact Origens and Nectars.
Taking out my Kainos or SX mini's topped with an FEV can be heavy and draws too much attention.
 

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Ok, I was going to let this one ride but I just noticed this ridiculous remark. You need to to do some research and read the title of the thread. We are not discussing mods here. I was not referring to mods just rta's (since that's what the thread is about) and i said nothing of the sort anyway. I suggest you leave your patronising, sanctimonious and frankly unhinged BS out of this thread which, until you arrived, was really quite nice...The only person who should be embarrassed here is you buddy..

What is 'concerning' to you?

It's a point. not necessarily a good one

this ridiculous remark

Just a few choice quotes, actually, I thought I was pretty level until the last post where you essentially stated there was no innovation or originality coming out of China and I had to respond to that.

designs from China etc are starting to show some real originality

This means, they never showed originality before, which is wrong.


Take a breath. I am not your buddy. I am not embarrassed. Im certainly not ...... off. We are all vaping because it is a hobby. It is clear to me that you took this personally. Im sorry that what I said was offensive. It was not my intention to upset you, it was my intention to just say, look at the broader picture. Just because it is expensive, handmade, or mass produced does not mean it is or is not good.
 
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Virtually no innovation? Hmm, ok.

I guess companies like Joytech, Smok, Aspire and Yihi didnt innovate on anything. I think you need to do some research. Ive been in this a long time. Really kinda racist and factually incorrect. Also incredibly embarrassing and offensive to see this kind of nonsense.

My 'concern' is that what I have seen since the days of this hobby having begun is a market that has done a pretty terrible job with pricing. I used to be one of those people that said, if it isnt handmade and $200, I dont want to even know about it.

It continues to allow mod makers to mismanage the supply and demand side of the equation. It continues to tell mod makers that charging $200 for a mod, only making a couple of runs before moving on to the next thing is ok. It isnt. As a consumer, it is frustrating.

It is ok to want nice things. It is ok to buy nice things. Im not sure why my post was seen as an attack on your character and the very fiber of your being, it was not. What I am concerned about is both the message we are are sending to mod makers and the message threads like this send to people who might be under the FALSE impression that alot of money equals better performance.

I own expensive mods. I own cheap mods. I have an authentic Hurricane. I have an authentic GGTS with the crazy atomizer thing he came up with (if you lined all the parts up, theyd reach to the moon and most of the way back). Ive had a Provari and several DNA 200 devices. Hell, Im tooting on a Yihi G class right this very minute (a new mod currently selling for $220).

I also have and own many lower priced mods. The RX2/3, the RX300, the Sigelli touch screen thing they made, a Veritas, the Aromamizer, the list goes on and on.

There are fantastic value priced mods out there that in my opinion, perform just as well, often times, better than the expensive mods. There are also value priced mods that dont, just as there are high end mods that do not. In fact, the hit or miss in my experience, statistically speaking, has nothing to do with price. That was my point.

When a thread called "high end RTAs" is created (implying only expensive RTAs here), you are perpetuating this notion that price equals quality. It does not. Ive used $300 RTA's that were terrible. Out of all the RTA's Ive used in the pricey range, only a handful were "worth" the price. Why? What usually happens is, something takes a flawed $200-300 product and iterates on it and creates something better at a fraction of the cost.

You can argue the merits of clones if you want, but from a pure economics perspective, clones are merely responding to the market. If a mod maker didnt produce a product that sold for $200 that he could sell for $40-50, clones would be hard to justify.

I get it. Its a free market (ideally speaking, provided government blah blah blah). Mod makers can make and charge what they want. Consumers can purchase what they want.

I just disagree with the notion that only high end RTAs have a place in a discussion that should really be about great RTA's regardless of price.
Well, then, perhaps you should follow a different thread and allow those of us to live in our fantasy world of high dollar unicorns that have no value, in your humble opinion.
Your perspective is respected and appreciated. If you would prefer not to participate in a High End RTA thread, then by all means, ignore us. Please. You appreciate what you appreciate as do we. Your point has been made. Leave us to our convictions and we shall happily do the same.
Namaste, be well.
 

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I've seen it I might pick one up but at the moment I'm trying to just get a PMMA or utlem replacement in case something happens. I like to have spares. I just haven't seen any except the ones of fasttech.
yep...thats why I suggested steam tuners. I tried some of the usual places and came up with nothing for you...
 

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I've seen it I might pick one up but at the moment I'm trying to just get a PMMA or utlem replacement in case something happens. I like to have spares. I just haven't seen any except the ones of fasttech.
The ST is a great addition to the Hussar. The drip tip is ok but it could be better, IMHO.
 
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