Homemade syringe tank mod, looks easy!

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Coming off of 2 :facepalm: moments:

1st: Wanted to make an 808 tank for my new puck. Go grab my syringes.....uh.....I put em in a safe place.....where was that "safe place" again? Seriously-30 minutes of freaking out thinking I must have thrown them away by accident before I located the "safe place". Idiot!

2nd: So I finally get started making the new tank. Pulling the rubber tip off the plunger and I start thinking, these things are piling up-there's got to be a use for em in something. Another Doh! moment-why didn't I notice this before?

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Don't those look like nice little plugs? Off they come....

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And in they go:

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So the ones in the photo are from 10ml and 3ml excel syringe plungers. The 10ml one fit tight in the 1/8th hole I had punched for the earring rubber. Obviously the 3ml would need a smaller hole. I have no idea what size though. Now these stick out further than the earring rubbers do. For that reason I prefer the rubbers. But hey, if you don't want to have to buy yet another thing, and you have a workable plunger laying around, why not give it a try. Note that the 20ml excel plungers (at least the ones I have) have a different tip on them that is not suitable.
 
I know you were joking. I was just answering the question about soldering. But even if a idea doesn't work out, it sometimes make you think about another way to do something. PROGRESS

Here's an idea - use the saddle valve to create 2 low-down holes and fit each with a small screw; ideally these would be just long enough to catch the tube rather than just the bottom plunger.

Hmmm. half an idea.
 
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Don't those look like nice little plugs? Off they come....

So the ones in the photo are from 10ml and 3ml excel syringe plungers. The 10ml one fit tight in the 1/8th hole I had punched for the earring rubber. Obviously the 3ml would need a smaller hole. I have no idea what size though. Now these stick out further than the earring rubbers do. For that reason I prefer the rubbers. But hey, if you don't want to have to buy yet another thing, and you have a workable plunger laying around, why not give it a try. Note that the 20ml excel plungers (at least the ones I have) have a different tip on them that is not suitable.

Superb !

Now ... what can we do with that long arm from the syringe with the 'X' cross-section ???
 
My latest thinking (well, old actually) but come to mind again is about whether it would be worthwhile to add an air-filter to our e-cigs. Perhaps just a simple material wrap around the air-inlets to catch the larger 'dust' particles. As thinking back over atomizer days I suspect that burning dust (rather than filler) was one cause of the burnt taste that would ensue if the coil got too hot (lack of liquid).

I have a fan in my room here and you should see the handfuls of stuff I wash off it every week.

Aside from dry deposits from the e-liquids, it could well be a major reason that cartos go bad (clog up).

Any thoughts ?

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just remebered wyojoe's post above ... will get some sleep now ;) even night owls have a nap in the end ...
 
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My latest thinking (well, old actually) but come to mind again is about whether it would be worthwhile to add an air-filter to our e-cigs.

There's one already built in... filler material! Dem air holes are pretty small too. If ya clog those... time to get outta Dodge!
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Changing the subject, I've got one tank that ran great for a couple days and is now trying to flood - not too bad because I can just tip the PV up, uncover the hole in the carto and dry hit the thing a couple times and it'll straighten up and act right for awhile, but this tank ran perfectly for awhile and then started flooding a little bit.

I'm still trying to get to the bottom of why some of these things flood after a day or two and I don't think I'm any closer to a solution than when I started :(
 

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the hole is too big for the viscosity of the juice. Take the tank off and blow the excess out but don't empty the tank by doing so, or shake it. If it's a variable volt turn the voltage up and it will clear and then go back to the voltage you like.

I don't think that's it as the thing has only had one kind of juice in it and worked fine for a couple days before it started flooding. This hole was punched with a small finishing nail - my first thought was the hole was too big but after looking at zillions of pictures of commercially punched cartos I don't think that's it.

Just thought of this but my new theory is that condensation is thinning the juice in the tank. I think what I'm gonna try is dumping the tank out before I refill it.
 

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Changing the subject, I've got one tank that ran great for a couple days and is now trying to flood - not too bad because I can just tip the PV up, uncover the hole in the carto and dry hit the thing a couple times and it'll straighten up and act right for awhile, but this tank ran perfectly for awhile and then started flooding a little bit.

I'm still trying to get to the bottom of why some of these things flood after a day or two and I don't think I'm any closer to a solution than when I started :(
Wizard - had the same problem with a smoktech XL & a map tank (never have had a prob with hacksawed slots or punched holes) and after a short time the carto flooded and juice started leaking out the battery end at a pretty steady pace - am assuming that's what happened to you - anyway....I've concluded that in this case my carto was short on filler which as it turns out, was true for all five in a box (must've been the overtime shift in China) - when the filler material isn't dense enough they will flood, leak and burn your juice and your throat - gonna give smoktech one more try - too bad that Boge doesn't make an XL carto (I can't find 'em anyway) and it is too bad that these damn cartos in general ARE like Chinese firecrackers!
 

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Wizard - had the same problem with a smoktech XL & a map tank (never have had a prob with hacksawed slots or punched holes) and after a short time the carto flooded and juice started leaking out the battery end at a pretty steady pace - am assuming that's what happened to you - anyway....I've concluded that in this case my carto was short on filler which as it turns out, was true for all five in a box (must've been the overtime shift in China) - when the filler material isn't dense enough they will flood, leak and burn your juice and your throat - gonna give smoktech one more try - too bad that Boge doesn't make an XL carto (I can't find 'em anyway) and it is too bad that these damn cartos in general ARE like Chinese firecrackers!

I'm kinda liking CCV's resurrectors in stainless steel -

spiffy resurrector cartos

although I think I may try dual coils next.

beezer started me thinking again about why these things start flooding after a couple days - if the hole was too big, the juice too thin or the packing too light it seems to me they'd flood right out of the gate; that's why I'm wondering whether condensation is falling back into the tank and thinning the juice. I vape VG-only except for flavoring and the juices are a bit less than 20% distilled water. Think I'm gonna brew up something a little thicker this morning and see if that solves the problem.
 

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My theory has been that the filler starts to get sticky and stiff with all the juice that has run through it. According to my theory this can either cause the cartos to quit wicking as well because they are clogged up) OR can cause them to leak (because they sometimes kind of shrink up a little and pull away from the sides of the carto.

See, isn't that convenient how my theory explains BOTH leaking and not-wicking?!? :D
 

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My theory has been that the filler starts to get sticky and stiff with all the juice that has run through it. According to my theory this can either cause the cartos to quit wicking as well because they are clogged up) OR can cause them to leak (because they sometimes kind of shrink up a little and pull away from the sides of the carto.

See, isn't that convenient how my theory explains BOTH leaking and not-wicking?!? :D

:D

Could be - although mine is still wicking fine. I do think it may be a combination of things, though. I think I'm gonna make a small batch of thicker juice and see if this tank straightens up. If it doesn't then it's pretty much gotta be the carto.
 

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I think its the condensation. I have a clear drip tip on my tank and I see it in it. It might be going down the center tube in the carto making this happen.

Yup. Got clear drip tip too and the stuff's either gotta be going in my mouth or back in the tank :)

I just dumped the tank and made up a batch of juice without the distilled water - it's crackling the way it should now, seems to be wicking properly and it's not gurgling, so I'm gonna run this tank empty and see for sure but I think my juice might have been a little too thin and the condensation just thinned it out enough it wouldn't wick properly. Guess we'll see :)
 
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