Houston, we have a problem...BE nic titration results
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You know I just said that same thing to a friend tonight. There really is a good side to everything (if we look hard enough) and maybe it's good that it happened now before anyone did get seriously injured or worse. Maybe this is the wake up call that has been needed
I think I heard somebody on one of those live stream interviews say that if the nic juice that was being diluted wasn't mixed enough or properly then yes there could be hot spots. He also said to shake your nic juice real, real, real good. Not his exact words but close enough. I don't remember what he said he started with but he contradicted himself about that.
You know I just said that same thing to a friend tonight. There really is a good side to everything (if we look hard enough) and maybe it's good that it happened now before anyone did get seriously injured or worse. Maybe this is the wake up call that has been needed
Rather agree; but a lot of this liquid is still out there, quite possibly in unsuspecting hands, in storage ... it isn;t over yet ...
It's an outrageous gamble ...
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Too late for the end-recipient. The lack of thorough mixing is one possible cause at root, or just lack of care; seems to be one of these two.
5% off is about the maximum one could reasonably expect. So, say, a 48mg liquid could reasonably be 46 -50mg. But these BE numbers are just like lottery numbers
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You know I just said that same thing to a friend tonight. There really is a good side to everything (if we look hard enough) and maybe it's good that it happened now before anyone did get seriously injured or worse. Maybe this is the wake up call that has been needed
From your mouth to God's ears.
Well, the real question is where to go from here, where I don't think there is any actual question.
If you supply juice, test your nicotine. Maybe Kurt can do a nice instruction manual on how to use a Ph meter to this end.
Establish lot numbers on diluted nicotine.
Publish the results of these tests.
The alternative is the FDA getting involved, and thankfully near as we can tell no one was harmed. But it should be a wake up call.
If you supply juice, test your nicotine. Maybe Kurt can do a nice instruction manual on how to use a Ph meter to this end.
Establish lot numbers on diluted nicotine.
Publish the results of these tests.
The alternative is the FDA getting involved, and thankfully near as we can tell no one was harmed. But it should be a wake up call.
Just to set the record straight.
A friend informed me that BE offered a 50% off sale - not of the bad batch - but in the closing statement in his first defending email blast...
Night, everyone!
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Cover up...adamant denial to delay liability.
As long as they deny deny deny, it's their word against others. For now.
This is going to hit them in the pocketbook hard. They are attempting to defray that as much as possible & as long as possible with NO care to the customer that they service, in hopes that it will just go away and ppl forget about it. JMO
I wonder if they carry liability insurance with selling a poisonous chemical to the public.
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Well, another crop of samples should be starting to coming in soon. Evidently some do not even have lot numbers on them. Now some have CAS#s instead, whatever that is.
Past time for bed. However upset we are with BE, and we should be, at my end it is very clear that we are on the upswing now, and I mean that.
I will come up with a simple pH meter rough-calc of nic level soon. Vendors are flooding me with PMs. They know they will need to test regularly now or get left behind, and knowing that in this last 24 hours means today was indeed a good day.
Good night, all!
Past time for bed. However upset we are with BE, and we should be, at my end it is very clear that we are on the upswing now, and I mean that.
I will come up with a simple pH meter rough-calc of nic level soon. Vendors are flooding me with PMs. They know they will need to test regularly now or get left behind, and knowing that in this last 24 hours means today was indeed a good day.
Good night, all!
This is from their website. Anyone see an irony here?
"About Us
We are a manufacturer and distributor of high quality chemicals, safety products and lab equipment for the laboratory and manufacturing facility.
See what a difference Box Elder can make in the quality of your products and the safety of your environment."
What exactly does BE manufacture?
"About Us
We are a manufacturer and distributor of high quality chemicals, safety products and lab equipment for the laboratory and manufacturing facility.
See what a difference Box Elder can make in the quality of your products and the safety of your environment."
What exactly does BE manufacture?
Erroneous dangerous product ??
G'night all. My sarcasm is singing out loud, time to put it to bed.
$22 for a platsic measuring thing (it's late ...) !!
G'night all ...
"Someimes you just ride the wave ..." - Kurt
G'night all ...
"Someimes you just ride the wave ..." - Kurt
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gourmet-Vapor/102621186469757
If anyone is so inclined to visit and post a query.
If anyone is so inclined to visit and post a query.
I wonder if Cindy is his wife. They must be small time (BE and GV) if they leave for whatever reason and nothing gets shipped until they return.
She did say that people would be shipping still while she was out, and I think surgery gives her a free pass. At least she announced it
Not finding anything on a Cindy Bacher in Utah via Google. But that means nothing.
I've seen their FB page before.
I personally have no interest to get into a tit for tat on FB with anyone.
My family & close friends are on my FB, I would not care to expose them to ugliness of any kind.
I personally have no interest to get into a tit for tat on FB with anyone.
My family & close friends are on my FB, I would not care to expose them to ugliness of any kind.
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