How Confident Are You In Kanthal?

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GoBlue88

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Yes I believe there are trace amounts of metal inhaled.

Now, let's define "trace".

Only an assumption on my part, but as we use a coil, the resistance of the coil will slowly increase. The resistance increases because the wire becomes thinner. (higher # gauge)
The coil in the carto I'm using this morning started life at 2.2 ohms, 3.5 weeks later it reads 2.9 ohms. So roughly 1/2 a ohms worth of metal is gone from that coil.


No, resistance dropping with heat is a property of materials.
 

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Yes I believe there are trace amounts of metal inhaled.

Now, let's define "trace".

Only an assumption on my part, but as we use a coil, the resistance of the coil will slowly increase. The resistance increases because the wire becomes thinner. (higher # gauge)
The coil in the carto I'm using this morning started life at 2.2 ohms, 3.5 weeks later it reads 2.9 ohms. So roughly 1/2 a ohms worth of metal is gone from that coil.

Also ignoring any possibility of connection failure/fatigue or wire cracking due to becoming more brittle.

However I have witnessed Both. Often very old(well used) Cartos are converted to test drippers.;)
 
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Is this a joke question? Or just a question to get some people fired up? Am I confident in ANY of my heating elements? Abso-farting-lutely. Are you worried about radiation residue from a microwave? No? How about fuel (gas) residues left over from your oven or grill? No?! Do you use non-stick teflon coated pans? Most of us do, and most of us report no issues. Then why the hell should you care about a little bit of metal flaking off your resistance wire? The part of the coil that gets the hottest - an educated guess here - is the middle of the coil. What sits in the middle of your coil? Your wick. So if anything is being flaked off, it's probably stuck in your wick, or stuck under the gunk left behind from the e-juice. Is vaping at all safe? Well comparing the 4 chemicals found in liquids - PG, VG, Nicotine, and Flavors... and IF any metal is being inhaled from kanthal or its sister counterpart nichrome. It's probably a hell of a lot safer than inhaling 2,000 "KNOWN" chemicals found in cigarette smoke - some of them of the aldehyde group as well as substances used in cleaning products like ammonia. And I quoted the KNOWN word as there are chemicals still being identified in cigarette smoke. Last count - 10,000 or some. I mean you roll the dice on this one. I'll stick with my vaporizer and my kanthal, nichrome, nickel, and titanium wire over the 10,000 chemicals found in combustible tobacco products.
 
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Is this a joke question? Or just a question to get some people fired up? Am I confident in ANY of my heating elements? Abso-farting-lutely. Are you worried about radiation residue from a microwave? No? How about fuel (gas) residues left over from your oven or grill? No?! Do you use non-stick teflon coated pans? Most of us do, and most of us report no issues. Then why the hell should you care about a little bit of metal flaking off your resistance wire? The part of the coil that gets the hottest - believe it or not - is the middle of the coil. What sits in the middle of your coil? Your wick. So if anything is being flaked off, it's probably stuck in your wick, or stuck under the gunk left behind from the e-juice. Is vaping at all safe? Well comparing the 4 chemicals found in liquids - PG, VG, Nicotine, and Flavors... and IF any metal is being inhaled from kanthal or its sister counterpart nichrome. It's probably a hell of a lot safer than inhaling 2,000 "KNOWN" chemicals found in cigarette smoke - some of them of the aldehyde group as well as substances used in cleaning products like ammonia. And I quoted the KNOWN word as there are still being chemicals identified in cigarette smoke. Last count - 10,000 or some. I mean you roll the dice on this one. I'll stick with my vaporizer and my kanthal, nichrome, nickel, and titanium wire over the 10,000 chemicals found in combustible tobacco products.

No it's not a joke question, relax. I'm sticking with Kanthal too and agree it's overwhelmingly likely that a Kanthal coiled RDA is safer than tobacco. I didn't even smoke before vaping, at least not for 6+ years before I vaped.

I'm not referring to flakes of metal, I'm talking about metal in the vapor being inhaled. I was trying to get a discussion going where people could share knowledge regarding the safety of Kanthal as a heating element to directly heat something we are inhaling inches from our face, for which there isn't a huge body of knowledge. Call it me being curious/interested, not me trying to troll people into believing Kanthal is dangerous.

If I thought I had the evidence to suggest Kanthal was dangerous (I said the opposite in my OP), that would be my post.
 
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Well comparing the 4 chemicals found in liquids - PG, VG, Nicotine, and Flavors

Not to be a Negative Nancy, but that statement does not really fly.
There can be hundreds of chemicals in a basic Flavored e-liquid consisting of only a Few Mixed Flavors.
Each Flavor requires several to dozens of Chemicals in a specific balance to be correctly represented.

Just correcting a Fallacy for Vapors awareness.
 

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How Confident Are You In Kanthal?

At the Temperatures that I use an Atomizer Coil when vaping? I'm Fairly Confident that I am Dramatically Reducing my Risk over Smoking Cigarettes.

At Dry Burn Temperatures? Not Very Confident.

BTW - I Don't Use Kanthal(s). I use NiChrome 80. Not because I think Kanthal is Harmful. I just don't like the Taste of Kanthal(s). NiChrome 80 (to me) gives Tastes Much Better.
 

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We tested this stuff years ago. This question comes up about once a month so you can imagine it gets a little tiring answering it over and over. The animosity in some of the answers above just reflects that frustration.

The wise ancient Greek philosopher said that you can never cross the same river in the same place.... the water would have changed. This is a forum. People come, people go, some stay on a bit longer. It's inevitable for the same questions to be asked because the water that was there when you replied is now somewhere else. :) Even the replies are not exactly the same as the original ones. :)
 

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Well thanks for the correction crxess. I'm just reading off my bottles. You're right though there are possibly thousands if not hundreds of thousands of compounds inside flavorings which give it its flavor - but if I pick it up and dump it into my juice - are all of them safe? Possibly not, but again, as stated - mixed in a proportion which makes them safe? Yes. That's like the cinnamon scare from awhile ago.

And thanks Boden - well stated. It's been tested - it's been confirmed - so why keep beating the dead horse?

And zoiDman - I myself have recently switched to nichrome and I love it.
 
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