How do you inhale?

[JerseyGirl]

Inhaling without leaving your lungs open is... not possible?

I mean, it must be, if so many people are doing it that way. I'm assuming.

But I just don't see where the vapor is supposed to GO. It works if I take a tiny drag, like 2 seconds. Any more than that and my cheeks puff out, and then when I stop pulling - before I can take the ecig out of my mouth and close my lips - half the vapor seeps out and goes up my nose and in my eyes.

And I keep expecting someone to pop up and yell at me for wasting all that precious smoke.

On the plus side, I learned something today: Vapor + Eyes = Ow...

 

[kristin]

Inhaling without leaving your lungs open is... not possible?

I mean, it must be, if so many people are doing it that way. I'm assuming.

But I just don't see where the vapor is supposed to GO. It works if I take a tiny drag, like 2 seconds. Any more than that and my cheeks puff out, and then when I stop pulling - before I can take the ecig out of my mouth and close my lips - half the vapor seeps out and goes up my nose and in my eyes.

And I keep expecting someone to pop up and yell at me for wasting all that precious smoke.

On the plus side, I learned something today: Vapor + Eyes = Ow...

You probably can't take a 5+ second hit using the mouth-first method. There is a lot less vapor this way, I guess. I just timed myself and it was about 3 seconds. I feel like I get plenty of vapor, though! (And no puffy cheeks, lol!) But I never hold it in my lungs long - never did with analogs either. guess it depends on what kind of analog smoker you were?

Next time you drink something with a straw, pay attention to what you are doing. You suck it into your mouth, but not down your throat. It's exactly the same. It's like sipping vapor into your mouth - best way I can describe it!

 

[shivadance]

Ok, just did a 6 second mouth only inhale. Funny thing is, now that I'm paying attention, my cheeks actually go in as I pull. It's the back of my mouth area that seems to expand. It's not that you're closing off the pipe to your lungs (which is what you're thinking and why your cheeks expand). It's more that you're just not purposefully sucking it into your lungs but some is trickling down there anyway.

Hmmm, harder to explain that I thought!!!

 

[kristin]

Guess I have a smaller mouth! I just tried 6 seconds and my jaw , cheeks and neck started to tighten like I couldn't draw any more in! LOL 8-o

 

[shivadance]

Well kristin, I have been told I have a big mouth, I guess it's true.

It's stretching my limits but it's fun to see how much vapor I can exhale!

 

[trog100]

i think this direct inhaling thing is the result of folks not having the same introduction to smoking that folks used to get..

before the demonization of smoking people were taught how to do it in the time honoured way.. most male adults smoked.. it was on the movies TV going on all around a person..

the first childhood initiation into smoking.. which was part of growing up for most kids was to take it into the mouth.. the next stage was "can you take in down"..

having smoked and been around smokers for more years than i care to remember i have never heard of or seen the "directly suck into the lungs" method..

i think its a result of weak filter tipped cigarettes.. anyone older than their mid thirties smokes in the time honoured way.. but its quite clear from reading this place those who have grown up in the smoking demonization age do it whatever way came into their heads when they first tried it...

to me its a silly way of smoking... to anyone i have ask about it they have never heard of the method and say how daft..

i cant do it... breathing thru an atoimizer pinhole is almost impossible for me.. its just not the way to smoke..

but some do it.. some think its the only way to do it.. being older i do find this amazing.. a whole new generation of smokers who have never even been taught how to do it properly.. he he..

just out of curiosity are there any "smokers" out there who stick their cigs up their nose and think this is how smoking should be done..????

trog

 

[Closet Toker]

Totally agree with Trog.

I find direct inhaling, kinda "goofy".

Not enjoyable at all.

 

[Closet Toker]

Inhaling without leaving your lungs open is... not possible?

I mean, it must be, if so many people are doing it that way. I'm assuming.

But I just don't see where the vapor is supposed to GO. It works if I take a tiny drag, like 2 seconds. Any more than that and my cheeks puff out, and then when I stop pulling - before I can take the ecig out of my mouth and close my lips - half the vapor seeps out and goes up my nose and in my eyes.

And I keep expecting someone to pop up and yell at me for wasting all that precious smoke.

On the plus side, I learned something today: Vapor + Eyes = Ow...

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Can you drink a milkshake, or does it dribble out the sides of your mouth? lol......

I don't get it.

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[trog100]

one problem i have with it is a product designed to be used in the traditional way would have to be completely different than this new way.. the new way requires a less potent vapour mix and a far bigger and easier draw inlet method..

running a support forum when some say they are having problems using a 901 atomizer for example.. typical problem "it makes me cough and is far to hard to draw thru" used to have me baffled.. now i home in on the problem..

the user dosnt even know how to smoke properly.. eerrr well yes.. i only have one answer to this problem.. learn how to smoke properly.. it might offend some but i cant say much else..

trog

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

How much liquid do you use per day?

I'm using ~1ml of 18mg, after smoking 20-30 menthol lights a day for 8 years.

I go through about 4 or 5ml a day.

As to my thoughts on the direct lung draw versus the mouth draw, I am pretty sure we're looking at two different substances as being the main factor in who does it, and why.

I believe the vast majority of cigarette smokers do a mouth draw, then into their lungs. Those who partook in the smoking of some herbal substances learned the lung draw method. When you're using a water pipe, you can't really do a mouth draw, it's impossible. We had to condition our throat and lungs to handle this. Even the RYO herbal stogies, they were treated the same way, to maximize exposure to the drug.

I find the vapor extremely easy to draw compared to tobacco or herbs, which is why I can do a lung draw. Then again, I use 801's. The vapor is pretty cool, the draw is very good, and the throat hit not as big as other atty's I've heard.

 

[trog100]

I find the vapor extremely easy to draw compared to tobacco or herbs, which is why I can do a lung draw. Then again, I use 801's. The vapor is pretty cool, the draw is very good, and the throat hit not as big as other atty's I've heard.

all very true.. but the interesting thing is up until very recently i and i am sure most other were not even aware we have folks using two entirely different methods of smoking..

leaford the reviewer made me aware of direct inhaling.. he had never heard of the other way i had never heard of his way..

it does kind of affect reality when the reviewer does it one way and the reader does it another way.. and what type of e cigs get higher rating with them..

milder easy draw devices are best suited to direct inhalers.. so are wimpy e cigs..

trog

 

[JerseyGirl]

Can you drink a milkshake, or does it dribble out the sides of your mouth? lol......

I don't get it.

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I can drink a milkshake... most of the time. Sometimes I dribble.

Seriously though, drinking something through a straw, I might sip for 1-2 seconds. I can do this "mouth inhaling" thing for 1-2 seconds too, but it feels really lame. No "expanding" feeling in my lungs (what everyone else calls a throat hit, I've always called a lung hit, lol) and a truly wimpy amount of vapor on the exhale. If I HAD to vape this way, I would never have quit smoking.

I believe the vast majority of cigarette smokers do a mouth draw, then into their lungs. Those who partook in the smoking of some herbal substances learned the lung draw method. When you're using a water pipe, you can't really do a mouth draw, it's impossible.

My theory exactly. Back in the day, not inhaling properly (ie, into the lungs) would get you kicked out of the circle! Very bad manners to waste that herb, lol... So we learned to suck it down, and hold it in as long as possible. Plus, picture the mouth opening on your typical "tall" water pipe (my tool of choice) - it's about 1.5 inches in diameter. Now open your mouth that wide, and try to do this "mouth inhale" without drawing into your lungs. Not possible, is it? That's how I've been feeling with all this mouth inhaling.

the user dosnt even know how to smoke properly.. eerrr well yes.. i only have one answer to this problem.. learn how to smoke properly.. it might offend some but i cant say much else..

I would say the same thing to you, lol.

Maybe all these folks who insist on modding their perfectly good ecigs just haven't learned to use them properly? I get killer hits off mine, when I smoke it the "right" way...

 

[tiffytiff]

i actually do both, if i've had a bad day you will see me direct inhaling my highest nic on tap. but usually when everything is running smoothly i will inhale in my mouth then i usually french inhale from there, sometimes i will "play" with the vaper when i'm relaxing. but when i really need the nicotene i definately direct inhale to the lungs...

 

[trog100]

mine would choke you.. just like it does me.. when i try and smoke it the wrong way... he he

my support is for the product i sell.. its not suitable for direct inhalers.. i dont mind telling them so..

but i stick to my statement.. there are youngish folks who simply because there was no one around to show them how to do something properly have invented their own way..

with pipes cigars or real old fashioned stronger pre wimpish cigarettes there was only one way to smoke..

now it seems there is another way.. a silly way to everybody i know in the real world.. but those who do it still think its the right way simply because its their way..

when granny aint around to teach the young uns how to suck eggs.. we are gonna have some laffs... he he he

trog

ps... how does direct inhaling give more nicotine.. all i know is it tickle/irritates my throat something bad and makes me burst into a fit of vey unpleasant coughing.. i genuinely cant do it.. i have tried just to see what happens..

thats apart from the absurdity of trying to directly breath thru a 901 mini pin hole..

 

[Linthorn]

I inhale into the mouth, my wife does the direct. Never noticed until we got the e-cigs. She had an automatic and had a hard time keeping it lit. I was fine.

I set up a poll so we can see how the numbers shake out

 

[JerseyGirl]

mine would choke you.. just like it does me.. when i try and smoke it the wrong way... he he

No offense, but I seriously doubt that. I can take an 8 second pull on a water pipe or large hookah without coughing. At all. Granted, I'm a healthy 27 year old who only smoked cigs for 8 years, so I may not have the lung damage that some of the long-time smokers experience. But coughing from a little water vapor? Puh-lease.

but i stick to my statement.. there are youngish folks who simply because there was no one around to show them how to do something properly have invented their own way..

How young is youngish?

My mom is 61... was a smoker for 50 years, starting with unfiltered cigs... and inhales the same way I do. (And she'll be thrilled that you described her as youngish, lol.) My grandmother is in her 80s, and also smoked the same way I do before she quit. There's a lot of older smokers in my family, I could go on.

Anyway, if your argument is "I do it this way, and I was first, so I must be right" then I hate to say it, but you definitely lose. I think we all know that tobacco was NOT the first herb that humans ever tried to toke up...

 

[FL-Eagle]

I do a combination, having smoked both cigs and cigars.
Most of the time I just do a mouth inhale. Other times I will do a direct inhale to my lungs. I will admit it took a bit getting used to doing that but after a few times I could tell when I was close to that "throat hit" and knew it was time to let up on the inhale.
The first time I inhaled deeply directly to the lungs It hit my throat hard, now I have figured out the "point" just before that and I have no problems.

 

[FL-Eagle]

But coughing from a little water vapor? Puh-lease.

Hi JerseryGirl,
I have a manual 510 that I started using and the first time I tried dripping with it I was not prepared for the hit I got, yes I lung inhaled and when I did it yes I did cough.

 

[JerseyGirl]

ps... how does direct inhaling give more nicotine.. all i know is it tickle/irritates my throat something bad and makes me burst into a fit of vey unpleasant coughing.. i genuinely cant do it.. i have tried just to see what happens..

thats apart from the absurdity of trying to directly breath thru a 901 mini pin hole..

I don't know if direct inhaling causes more nicotine to be absorbed into the bloodstream - that's just an idea I had last night. Based solely on the fact that I seem to vape a lot less than others who had comparable smoking habits. Since I don't have cravings, I just wonder if I'm getting the same amount of nicotine as everyone else, even though I vape less, because possibly I'm getting a relatively higher amount of nicotine? I dunno, just a thought. I'd imagine our lungs absorb nicotine more efficiently than the insides of our mouths, but that's just an assumption. Worth researching, though...

Also, I don't breathe directly through my 510 atomizer when I inhale. My mouth doesn't make a completely airtight seal around the ecig - there are gaps at the corners of my lips where air comes in. Playing around a bit, I CAN make the seal airtight, but then the draw is a little slower than I like (although not too bad, surprisingly). But definitely better with the gaps at the corners.

 

[trog100]

it must be a country thing then.. we do live in different ones.. ultimately i suppose we smoke the way we were taught to smoke..

but i just tried an interesting experiment.. direct inhaling using a good vapour producing e smoking device loaded with 24 mg liquid..

it made me cough badly and instantly.. its an extremely unpleasant experience..

now i just tried the same thing with a golden virginia roll up.. strong old fashioned tobacco in a real ciggarette..

interestingly it didnt make me cough.. i cant say i like the experiences it was very hard to draw.. but why didnt it make me cough like e vapour does..

e vapour make me cough badly and hurts my upper lungs when directly inhaled real strong tobacco dosnt..

now i am wondering why... he he he

trog

ps letting air in around the lips must cure the breath thru a pinhole factor but must also lessen the actual vapour taken in..