How much did you used to smoke?!

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AngeNZ

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    It (the switch to vaping) didn't happen without withdrawals, as I still had them with some measure of severity, but I made it through. Chainvaped my ... off those first weeks, but made it.. held onto my vape like my life depended on it, which it really did.

    This was my quitting experience as well. It was hard as hell - but I just chain vaped my way though each hour - and once I got through the first day - chain vaped my way though that too and so on till I made it through my first week smoke-free.

    Played mind games with my brain as well - told myself vaping was exactly the same as smoking, it just tasted better ;)
     

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    Started smoking on November 17, 1991. Quit November 3, 2018. Generally, I smoked anywhere between 10-15 or at times 20 a day. I smoked a brand only available in Canada called Du Maurier. My cigarette of choice. I did in 1991 and 1992 smoke Marlboro. My smoking would of course increase with anxiety and stress. It would also increase if having drinks on a Friday night. No matter what I have been through since 1991 smoking was always a part of it. Now I hope I can continue to stay away from smoking and only vape. With vaping I vape at 3 percent nicotine with the exception of when I have hard cravings I hit the Juul.
     

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    I was roundabout fourty to fifty sticks a day, for over thirty five years...,managed to quit short term cold turkey a couple a times over the years only to get right back on the smoke train after a short interim... After trying vaping, I was one of the lucky ones who managed to walk away from the burning and inhaling tobacco smoke in just three days time... Five and a half years later still off the coffin nails, thanks to the miracle of vaping...FDA can suck it! I am not an anecdote!
     

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    This was my quitting experience as well. It was hard as hell - but I just chain vaped my way though each hour - and once I got through the first day - chain vaped my way though that too and so on till I made it through my first week smoke-free.

    Played mind games with my brain as well - told myself vaping was exactly the same as smoking, it just tasted better ;)
    Put me down as another who chain vaped for the first couple of months.
    At the time I thought I was doing it easy but when I read back through the blog I kept with my brother, I was insane! Burning out coils real fast, burning my lips on my drip tips, going through expensive juice like crazy. Anxiety, side affects of quitting, weight gain, anger, sadness, constant want for tobacco.....I was a fricking mess.
    All the while I thought I was being really cool and moving through it smoothly. Took about 6 months before I realised I hadnt wanted a cig for over a week. Thats when I knew I could ditch tobacco and understood that vaping nicotine and smoking were two different things, for me.
     

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    I'm in Canada, so I don't know how this applies. My perception was that in the UK the NHS covered medications.

    They do. I'm from England but I live in the USA. Having my COPD meds taken away was an example of how stuff works down here.

    Don't know much about the Canadian system, sounds pretty good from what you described. This side of the border the ins companies account for over 30% of the cost of medical care. That, plus the nightmarish complexity they impose on the provision of care, is a large part of the reason we spend twice as much as the rest of the developed world and receive the most dysfunctional health care.

    FYI, my reference to Death Panels was a jest about one hilariously buffoonish politician who we had the good sense to send home. If you're interested just google Death Panels.
     

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    Yup,I smoked those for my first twenty or so years then on to Players Light,then the Reserve smokes.
    Altogether I smoked for ~45 years.
    Players light was my regular brand forever! I wouldn't want to be paying for a pack of those every day now.
     

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    So I’ve been smoking a half pack to a pack of American spirits for like three to years now... I used to smoke Marlboro reds and Marlboro smooth’s just curious as to how much everyone else used to smoke? I am still struggling with quitting full time. Some days I smoke 3-4 cigs then others I smoke 10+ . I’m only 23 and I’m so paranoid about copd and all of that. I made a bet with a friend with money I don’t have so I’m actually going to quit. I’m just paranoid and feel like I’m still gonna get copd later in life... it runs in my family. I’ve posted about heart disease and that kind of stuff before. I’m basically wondering if anyone here has copd and vapes and how do they feel? Sorry for all the paranoid posts. Hearing that kind of stuff makes me want to quit. Thanks!


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    So, CC - hopefully all these answers will help you. I won't say it'll be easy because you've only smoked a few years, because we all struggle with it in different ways, for different reasons. But obviously, the habit is less ingrained in you than for those that have smoked 30-40 years. The best advice I can give, no matter what methods you use: If you know you're going to quit eventually (and it sounds like you do), there's no time like the present - it won't get easier down the road. It's a struggle for almost everyone for a week, a month, or more. But it'll be less of a struggle the sooner you do it. So don't wait (like some above) until you have to choose between quitting or dying.

    "Procrastinator's suicide" is "dead"-on. I don't think there's an addiction that exists quite like smoking. It's not like alcohol, opioids, etc. - you don't wake up in the gutter, resort to crime, lose your job & family. There's no immediate impact. It's just too easy to say: Just one more cigarette, one more pack, one more day....I'll quit tomorrow, or next week. I believe it really is far more of a head game than a physical addiction.
     

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    Yup,I smoked those for my first twenty or so years then on to Players Light,then the Reserve smokes.
    Altogether I smoked for ~45 years.

    Never got into the reserve smokes. Friend got me a bunch once and didn’t like them – they all tasted stale.

    In the early 90’s I use to live in the Annex in downtown Toronto. There was this old, crippled man that use to sell cigarettes off the street out of a burlap bag right outside my place. Anything you wanted at a fraction of what the stores sold them for - including Marlboro’s which were not sold in Canada at the time. And if he didn’t have what you wanted, he’d have it the next day. No idea where he got them from, obviously illegal. Think the police felt sorry for the poor old fella for they turned a blind eye. Every evening like clockwork he’d be on the sidewalk with his crutches and burlap bag yelling “Marlboro’s, Du Maurier” in broken English. Then he just stopped showing up…I suspect the poor fella passed away. Still reminisce about that old bugger with friends.
     

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    I remember in my college years, walking through the Boston Commons, and getting the free 5 cig sample boxes being passed out by the scantily clad ladies...:w00t:
    Usually wasn't my brand but in those days, free was for me...:thumb:

    2 pk day for 45 years...
     
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    I smoked a brand only available in Canada called Du Maurier. My cigarette of choice.
    They became mine too during a motorcycle trip across Canada back about 12 years ago. I only brought of few packs of the Merits I was smoking at the time across the border with me, thinking I'd just buy more as I needed them. Well, I quickly found out that most US brands aren't available in Canada, and any cigs cost at least twice as much as they did back home in PA. :facepalm:
     

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    Whelp, I started smoking at 18. With 18 months off for good behavior while pregnant and nursing, and a few times I actually switched to nicotine gum for 3--6 months) I probably smoked between 1--3 packs a day (but definitely 3 near the end) for a couple years more than two decades.

    My last 18 months smoking were pretty much non-stop pneumonia, being checked for laryngeal cancer and etc. and being non stop on steroids and awful antibiotics and etc. It wasn't great, let me put it that way. I finally got knocked into a state of reasonableness, but it's not exactly-- well, I can't go back in time and re-improve my lung function and etc. I wish I could, but I cannot. Etc. I am also not out of the woods as far as possible dx to come, and I will say there are/were vapers on here, at ECF, who had stopped smoking, and were steadily vaping and had/have health consequences they are dealing with and/or have died from. So, I am by no means sanguine about having beaten tobacco YET, although it is nice to not get the dreaded COPD diagnosis, or have those symptoms or take those meds anymore, etc. But, other stuff could still happen, and it does. Every day it does.

    If you have the opportunity to quit-- quit. I wanted to quit smoking a month after I started, and I was surprised to find out HOW deep and how COMPLETELY smoking had sunk its hooks into me. I wouldn't call smoking passive suicide, to be honest. I am not passive, and there have actually been times when I was GENUINELY suicidal, and it's not like I smoked more, or anything, I was just TRULY addicted. I tried just about every smoking cessation there is (except Chantix, because that's sort of, at least with my diagnosis, an active suicidal act.).

    I was completely and utterly addicted. I loved cigarettes, and I hated them. I warred with them, and I romanced them. I smoked habitually, I smoked with gusto, when I took one of those "what kind of smoker are you tests" I scored HIGH in absolutely EVERY sphere.

    Addiction is not suicidal. It is a hopeless state of mind and body in which the substance you most hate seems to have the biggest hold over you. It cannot be reversed. The progression will usually worsen, not improve. I wished OH how I wished I could go back to being a never smoker. When I quit, I was miserable.. When I smoked, I was miserable. Every single day, for many decades ,I wished I was not a smoker, but I was powerless to stop.

    I don't think that smoking is suicide, I think smoking is coupling yourself to the fact that there will be a thing that you "need" every day of your life, and that thing will grow INCREASINLY problematic in all spheres as you continue.

    I do not want to die. The last 10 years of my smoking were in some ways the more happiest decade of my life. I merely was unable to quit.

    You are vaping now. You have choices. But do not THINK that you know the future-- that there is some magic age at which you can STOP without consequence, some magic number of cigarettes you can consume, without consequences. It is simply not true as a) with each cigarette you will become more coupled to smoking, not less. So what may be possible now may not BE possible later. I've seen folks with COPD on here TRY their hardest to vape, and fail, and disappear. It also happens every day.

    There will come a point (no one knows when) where the addiction has its hooks rather deep. There will come a point (no one knows when) where you will get a health consequence from smoking. NO ONE knows when.

    If you are concerned, don't post about it trying to "gauge" who smoked how much and when. It doesn't matter because it is YOUR individual body, and who KNOWS how it will react (mentally or physically) you for SURE don't and the actions of other smokers make NOT ONE WHIT of impact to YOU. Doing a survey to check "how much smoking is safe" is just relentlessly an act of ADDICTION. Addiction is not reasonable, addiction doesn't care about the numbers, and your smoking addiction most certainly does not care about YOU. It does not need you, you need it. There are diseases that seem particularly intent on killing off the host, and offering a lot of misery along the way. Smoking is one of the worst, because quite often by the time you reach maximum "need" to quit, some symptoms are irreversible, and some addictions will be no longer quelled by vaping.

    I do, by the way, mean to alarm you. The fact that you are even taking this ride (how much, how long) ALARMS me. It tells me that your are in the bargaining stage of addiction and I would not recommend staying there. Ever. You can bargain all you want, and cigarettes may still win. It's not a foe you can bargain with.

    I am also NOT going to insult you by telling you HOW to quit . Certainly not until you are actually READY to quit. I don't know when that will be, but I am here to tell you.

    There are full time vapers who have died from the consequences of their smoking. You don't have to be one but that is up to you.

    However, don't think that vaping some and smoking less is an overall useful strategy. I did that for a while and my health gains were super minimal. While it's good you are smoking less, you are not going to reach true harm reduction while still smoking cigarettes. The risks are not mitigated, based on all the research I have read. Dual use is helpful while you are working on quitting. Habitual dual use offers little to no overall health gains. Consider yourself a smoker, until you actually stop because that is what you are.

    I'm also not of the opinion that it is as simple as "how much" per day, week, etc. either. For me, it was my cigarettes catching up to me health wise and I did not get well until I quit entirely.

    Just my experience for what it is worth. I wish for you the same thing I wish for my younger self, encountering vaping early enough to halt my addiction, and choosing to end my addiction to tobacco.

    Best of luck,


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    Smoked a pack a day for about 30 yrs, in 2016 after trying just about every method there was of quitting, I finally quit cold turkey, was doing great until I came down with a chronic illness. Could no longer work, medication was costing a fortune, eventually went through my savings, sold the condo and had to move to a smaller city for rental reasons.

    After the move I was very depressed, ended up meeting ppl in the building I'm in, smokers that sat at the smoking area all times of the days, after sitting with them for awhile I started smoking small flavoured cigars (thinking I could have 1 or 2 a day) yeah right...before I knew it I was smoking a pack of those a day.

    Two months of that and I said enough, started vaping and I've been cigar free for about 4 months now.
     

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    So I’ve been smoking a half pack to a pack of American spirits for like three to years now... I used to smoke Marlboro reds and Marlboro smooth’s just curious as to how much everyone else used to smoke? I am still struggling with quitting full time. Some days I smoke 3-4 cigs then others I smoke 10+ . I’m only 23 and I’m so paranoid about copd and all of that. I made a bet with a friend with money I don’t have so I’m actually going to quit. I’m just paranoid and feel like I’m still gonna get copd later in life... it runs in my family. I’ve posted about heart disease and that kind of stuff before. I’m basically wondering if anyone here has copd and vapes and how do they feel? Sorry for all the paranoid posts. Hearing that kind of stuff makes me want to quit. Thanks!

    I smoked Marlboro Reds in the flip top box for years, one pack a day. When lights became popular for the lower tar thing I switched and found myself smoking 2 packs a day. I switched to ultra lights and realized that a carton only lasted 3 or 4 days. I was better off smoking the full flavor high nic cigs at one pack a day.

    The first week I vaped I found myself with the pack I had lasting 4 or 5 days. Go figure. Vaping works. I continued to smoke one with coffee and after meals and at my one year anniversary vaping I finished the last pack I had and never bought another. It's been almost 9 years since I last lit a cigarette.
     

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    Any Canadians remember Export Green? Some people used to call them green death due to the strength.

    OMG, I can still remember my older sister used to smoke them, she would be coughing her head off, face turning blue... I would say - how was your smoke and she would just give me a look hahaha
     

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    I smoked for 42 years, much/most of which I was going through 2 1/2 - 3 packs a day. The entire time I suffered bouts of bronchitis, and the last years, I was getting pneumonia every year, each year worse than the previous. It was a matter of time before it killed me.

    Amazingly, that's not why I switched to vaping. I should say here that I was a very dedicated smoker. I'd have been that hospital patient that removed the tube from their throat to take a drag off a cigarette. Life and death held no meaning for me in the face of my cigarette addiction. No, my issue became convenience basically.

    I moved in with an old friend of mine who needed care taking. She couldn't be around cigarette smoke. We tried setting me up a room with exhaust fans to the outside, but that didn't work. I knew I could not live most of my life running outdoors. I was at a loss though on how it could be otherwise. Then I remembered seeing a tech program that had a segment on electronic cigarettes the previous summer and thought I'd check online to see if it was really a thing. Sure enough...

    That was in the fall of 2009. I discovered this forum and a week later had ordered my vaping kit. Once I got it and figured it out, I decided to give myself 10 days to transition, and I stuck to that, cutting down the number of cigs each day. I remember well the night I smoked my last one, deciding against buying another pack. The thought of waking up without a cig was a bit nerve-wracking, but I made it through, finding that kind of thrilling and surprising. I have not smoked again to this day.

    I did go through some withdrawals, but I think that was from the other chemicals in cigarettes. As long as I was getting my nic (I was using 30-36 mg back then, in a little cig-alike) that I would be fine.

    Benefits I've enjoyed since: I can take a deep breath, I taste food & drink better, I don't ruin all my possessions with tar, and I can be around people! Man, I felt like such a pariah as a smoker. It really served to isolate me more and more over the years. And I no longer get bronchitis or pneumonia. Matter of fact, in the past 9 years, I have had one cold- a cold that was going around that went to everyone's lungs. It was only a head cold for me, like my lungs were immune. I thought that was pretty interesting.

    Sorry for the wall of text, but I don't get to tell my story very often. ;)
     

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    I had my first cigarette at age twelve. After that, I'd smoke when I could, but it was tricky because I was trying to hide it from my parents. (They must have guessed, though. I mean, the summer when I was fourteen I had a terrible job at a souvenir shop in southern Maine--twelve hours a day, six days a week; I think my pay worked out to $1.11/hour--and I chain-smoked throughout the day [it was allowed indoors back then]. My parents, former smokers both, must have noticed how much I reeked when I got home. Never said a word, though.)

    Anyway, by the time I was fifteen, I was smoking anywhere from two to four packs a day (Camel filters, then Camel lights, and one year of Gauloises), though I'd sporadically cut down and cease altogether for sometimes months at a time. At thirty-two I quit cold turkey (in a house with two smokers, no less). At forty-three, I started up again. At fifty, I mostly stopped once more, although I'd still smoke anywhere from two to four packs over a couple of days every two to four weeks, though sometimes I'd go for months without a cigarette. Started vaping in April of this year (as mentioned elsewhere, not to get me off smoking but specifically to get nicotine into myself for health reasons). I have had two cigarettes since, mainly to see what a cigarette would be like after a few months of vaping. The first was disgusting, as was the second, which I have no doubt will be my last.

    Sorry for maundering on. The stroll down memory lane got the best of me.
     

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    Why are you people so much antysmoking? You did it - smoking - for years (decades? millennia?) It was your choice, you did know about dangers, but you choose to ignore them. And now, when you are so rightful about your latest choice (older generation choose vaping?), you are so rightful about those who still did not make the "right" choice? Should I laugh or cry?
     
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