I don't think the EGo is a good beginner setup.

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i too think a ego kit is a good starting point..worked for me but i moved up 3 weeks later to a vmax then at the 3 month mark i got a provari...its all good i dont have the ego anymore ive passed em on to a smoker..well ex smoker now.
a ego is a good starting point for someone who is unsure abought jumping into vaping full on b...z deep
 

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Whatever setup you have, you'll have to carry some gear with you if you want reliability with e-cigs. A cartotank could fail, I'd rather be carrying around a few small cartomizers than bottles of e-liquid. I don't see cartotanks at all as convenient. Tanks and clearomizers in general are messy, and with something like nicotine e-liquid, that is hardly convenient.

I'm guessing most people here that are not fans of cigalikes have never even tried a gen 2 KR808 auto battery or Kanger horizontal coil cartomizers. This setups hits about as hard as my Ego and Vivi Nova and are much more consistent.

What you described is my stealth mode setup. Now that the worst of the cigarette cravings have passed and I'm stepping down my nic level, yes, a cigalike will serve sometimes. Those times being when I need to be stealthy, or when I'm around people who get put off by my larger MVPs.
 

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I would have keep using eGo batteries if they didn't all start failing on me; turns out the charger I had at home was faulty; as a result it took a while for me to figure out that was the problem.

Wish I could have just put in AA sized batteries in them. Turns out AA size is 14500 size; seems the only mods I can find that take 14500 lithium ion batts are mech mods.
 

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i too think a ego kit is a good starting point..worked for me but i moved up 3 weeks later to a vmax then at the 3 month mark i got a provari...its all good i dont have the ego anymore ive passed em on to a smoker..well ex smoker now.
a ego is a good starting point for someone who is unsure abought jumping into vaping full on b...z deep

For the price of a carton of cigs... you could buy a variable voltage mod. I just see it as more honest to say look, vaping will cost you money up front if you want it to work. Going into something like this half-hearted doesn't make sense: smoking is a serious habit that's hard to break, why go into it half-cocked?

You could get a disposable e-cig for 5-10 bucks and decide if vaping is for you. If it is, then I don't see the point in having a "beginner e-cig".

Companies like Halo and Smokeless Image (all suppossedly "proprietary connections") sell a wide range of products backed by a warranty and they have a branded reputation. Your local B&M e-cig store, the local flea market, or that dude selling stuff on eBay has little to lose if you are dissatisfied. Smokeless image actually pulls some of their stuff off their online store if enough people find it doesn't work well. I'm unimpressed with most B&M's (here in Orlando)... the prices I've seen there are often obscene and the staff are often no more in tune with what works than you or me, to me it's just people taking advantage of smokers desperate to quit and of the availability of cheap, junky 510 connection devices mass-produced in China. This stuff is just asking for government regulation.

The vaping community should be directing smokers to online vendors with good reputations and cautioning people about B&M's and the proliferation of cheap Chinese junk.
 

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For the price of a carton of cigs... you could buy a variable voltage mod. I just see it as more honest to say look, vaping will cost you money up front if you want it to work. Going into something like this half-hearted doesn't make sense: smoking is a serious habit that's hard to break, why go into it half-cocked?

You could get a disposable e-cig for 5-10 bucks and decide if vaping is for you. If it is, then I don't see the point in having a "beginner e-cig".

Companies like Halo and Smokeless Image (all suppossedly "proprietary connections") sell a wide range of products backed by a warranty and they have a branded reputation. Your local B&M e-cig store, the local flea market, or that dude selling stuff on eBay has little to lose if you are dissatisfied. Smokeless image actually pulls some of their stuff off their online store if enough people find it doesn't work well. I'm unimpressed with most B&M's (here in Orlando)... the prices I've seen there are often obscene and the staff are often no more in tune with what works than you or me, to me it's just people taking advantage of smokers desperate to quit and of the availability of cheap, junky 510 connection devices mass-produced in China. This stuff is just asking for government regulation.

The vaping community should be directing smokers to online vendors with good reputations and cautioning people about B&M's and the proliferation of cheap Chinese junk.

Where do you think all those 808 D1 batteries Smokeless Image and Halo sell come from? I don't hate cigalikes. In fact, I've got one sitting right next to my MVPS. They are however, still Chinese products no matter what these stores have rebranded them with.
 

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For the price of a carton of cigs... you could buy a variable voltage mod. I just see it as more honest to say look, vaping will cost you money up front if you want it to work. Going into something like this half-hearted doesn't make sense: smoking is a serious habit that's hard to break, why go into it half-cocked?

You could get a disposable e-cig for 5-10 bucks and decide if vaping is for you. If it is, then I don't see the point in having a "beginner e-cig".

Companies like Halo and Smokeless Image (all suppossedly "proprietary connections") sell a wide range of products backed by a warranty and they have a branded reputation. Your local B&M e-cig store, the local flea market, or that dude selling stuff on eBay has little to lose if you are dissatisfied. Smokeless image actually pulls some of their stuff off their online store if enough people find it doesn't work well. I'm unimpressed with most B&M's (here in Orlando)... the prices I've seen there are often obscene and the staff are often no more in tune with what works than you or me, to me it's just people taking advantage of smokers desperate to quit and of the availability of cheap, junky 510 connection devices mass-produced in China. This stuff is just asking for government regulation.

The vaping community should be directing smokers to online vendors with good reputations and cautioning people about B&M's and the proliferation of cheap Chinese junk.

If a smoker gets a disposable e-cig for 5-10 bucks and decides that vaping is for him, THEN THAT WAS HIS BEGINNER E-CIG.
 

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I agree If a beginner wants a fighting chance of getting off the analogs they really need something better than an ego
An inexpensive VV VW mod and a clearo like a Pro tank or a Nautilus is a good choice
A setup like this still cost less than smoking for a week and will drastically enhance your chance of making a smooth transition

I disagree with this 100%.

Personally, I started with cig-alikes (didn't work), then went with a ego/evod and quit smoking that same day (almost a year ago). At this point, I have mechanicals, VV/VW mods, drippers, cartotanks, various clearomizers, etc. etc. Yet for convenience and form factor, I use ego/clearos 99% of the time.

And it's not just me. I suspect that the vast majority of vapers are perfectly satisfied with ego batteries - you just don't hear from them on this board. They're not looking to blow clouds and are not interested in fiddling with things - they just want something to substitute for smoking.

And as a store owner, I can attest that at least 3-4 people/week come in with a vamo or whatever and want a smaller setup because the vamo "is too big to carry around with them". (Nothing against vamos, it's just that a store in the next town pushes them pretty heavily so that's what I see.)
 

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I disagree with this 100%.

Personally, I started with cig-alikes (didn't work), then went with a ego/evod and quit smoking that same day (almost a year ago). At this point, I have mechanicals, VV/VW mods, drippers, cartotanks, various clearomizers, etc. etc. Yet for convenience and form factor, I use ego/clearos 99% of the time.

And it's not just me. I suspect that the vast majority of vapers are perfectly satisfied with ego batteries - you just don't hear from them on this board. They're not looking to blow clouds and are not interested in fiddling with things - they just want something to substitute for smoking.

And as a store owner, I can attest that at least 3-4 people/week come in with a vamo or whatever and want a smaller setup because the vamo "is too big to carry around with them". (Nothing against vamos, it's just that a store in the next town pushes them pretty heavily so that's what I see.)

Yup all the fancy stuff is fun to tinker with and use at home, but egos are great on the road. I would be content with going on vacating for a week with just the egos. Although the advanced gear would still likely end up coming with me, I wouldn't require them to keep me off cigs.

A cigalike might get me through a week vacation now, but certainly not a month or two ago.

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I disagree with this 100%.

Personally, I started with cig-alikes (didn't work), then went with a ego/evod and quit smoking that same day (almost a year ago). At this point, I have mechanicals, VV/VW mods, drippers, cartotanks, various clearomizers, etc. etc. Yet for convenience and form factor, I use ego/clearos 99% of the time.

And it's not just me. I suspect that the vast majority of vapers are perfectly satisfied with ego batteries - you just don't hear from them on this board. They're not looking to blow clouds and are not interested in fiddling with things - they just want something to substitute for smoking.

And as a store owner, I can attest that at least 3-4 people/week come in with a vamo or whatever and want a smaller setup because the vamo "is too big to carry around with them". (Nothing against vamos, it's just that a store in the next town pushes them pretty heavily so that's what I see.)

I started looking into smaller setups from my MVP because Spring is here and my winter coat pockets won't be around for long. For now, my cigalikes are just fine for a bit. Still wanting something a bit better though, and the category between cigalikes and large mods are egos or ego sized devices. I imagine I'm soon to be in the market for a third iTaste VV v3. Hubby took the first two. That, and some slimmer cartotanks...
 

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Everybody is entitled to there opinion! Ego's Just didn't do it for me I was a heavy Smoker and until I got a Mod I was not satisfied
Ego's and Mini tanks just didn't deliver the performance I needed When I work I need something that will perform all day
with a simple refill and battery change there's just no way I can buy and carry 4 ego twist style batteries and keep refiling the small tank
You say it's small? well my ego's with a Pro tank mini is about 13" long it is a small diameter but still not small
A Reo Mini is Small even with an 18490 it is easily concealed in your hand



I disagree with this 100%.

Personally, I started with cig-alikes (didn't work), then went with a ego/evod and quit smoking that same day (almost a year ago). At this point, I have mechanicals, VV/VW mods, drippers, cartotanks, various clearomizers, etc. etc. Yet for convenience and form factor, I use ego/clearos 99% of the time.

And it's not just me. I suspect that the vast majority of vapers are perfectly satisfied with ego batteries - you just don't hear from them on this board. They're not looking to blow clouds and are not interested in fiddling with things - they just want something to substitute for smoking.

And as a store owner, I can attest that at least 3-4 people/week come in with a vamo or whatever and want a smaller setup because the vamo "is too big to carry around with them". (Nothing against vamos, it's just that a store in the next town pushes them pretty heavily so that's what I see.)
 

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Sorry; should have quoted the prior post that brought it up.

no. you should have stayed on topic. you went off about some crappy juice and my reo. my post had nothing to do with juice. it was all hardware related. now, let's not allow this discourse to continue.

You say it's small? well my ego's with a Pro tank mini is about 13" long it is a small diameter but still not small
A Reo Mini is Small even with an 18490 it is easily concealed in your hand

good point. even with an 18650, the Reo Grand is pocket-able for a hard day at work for me. though, an ego with enough battery life and large enough tank to be worth carrying isn't due to length. and it's still probably going to die before the end of the day requiring a backup at the ready.
 

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Sorry; should have quoted the prior post that brought it up.

I read the post you were referring to with that comment. That doesn't mean you comment had any relevance to the topic. Saying crappy eliquid will still be crappy in a REO has nothing to do with whether or not an Ego type set up is good for someone just starting out vaping.
 

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A Reo Mini is Small even with an 18490 it is easily concealed in your hand

I think a Reo mini would be a great starter device were it not for the price tag. I love my Reos of course but when just starting out you don't know if you're going to want to stick with vaping so it would be scary to buy something that costly right off the bat. However for performance it would definitely be awesome & you wouldn't have to ever "upgrade" really since you could move from a carto to an RBA with that same device. And then of course if you want vv you could get it & if you want watts you could use a kick with it. So many options.
 

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In an ideal world a "beginner" would be able to go into a B&M and have all the facts, options and equipment available placed in front of them. UnfortunAtely we are not in a perfect world so it all evolution. And as we "mature" as vapors we figure out what we like. And what everyone likes is different. I would never be caught dead driving a ford; I'm a GM fan. That said I am not gonna bash an my equipment. I have had some bad experiences with some and despise others; but, that us MY OPINION on them. Case in point I can't stand Blu; but, my girl loves them.
Still It was easier to spend 20 bucks on a blister pack than 70 on an MVP2.0 -at first.
Hindsight is always 20/20
Whatever works for you and keeps YOU off analogs.
Same for liquid. I like tobacco flavor and I've noticed quite a few of the people on here do not.


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