I don't use a ProVari,

[EddardinWinter]

Shakespeare is beyond me.

The Lion in Winter was James Goldman, but it does have a Shakespearian flavor, I grant you that.



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[Rossum]

There are a lot of 19mm diameter tanks available that fit flush with a Provari's top.

Sure, but why would you want to put a 19mm device on a 22mm(?) tubular APV? If I were running an IBT on a Provari, it would be a 22mm IBT. Now I realize that some toppers (like Protanks) are only available in 19mm (or smaller), so Provape supplying something that makes those look decent makes sense, but what doesn't make sense is that they don't offer anything to make 22mm devices look decent as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they seem to leave that to others..

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

There are a lot of 19mm diameter tanks available that fit flush with a Provari's top. IBTanked, Vaperfexion's Pro V, Kanger Protank, iTaste 30, and Smoktech DCT come to mind.

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The ProV looks perfect to me. Almost like it was designed for the Provari....

 

[PLANofMAN]

LOL. Protank. Come on, man. Who would top their mod with a Protank.

Seriously though, I'm not even necessarily talking about the wonky diameter. A floating center pin might help it from looking so hideous.

But the ProVari has an adjustable center pin...

No, sorry, it's not. AK-47s were/are made by the millions and are dirt cheap.

Sounds like a ProVari to me.
Readily and widely available...check
Cheap compared to other "high end" mods...check

The last time I priced good AK's they were bumping the $1,000 mark. That was almost 10 years ago, so I don't know what, if anything, has changed.

 

[Funk Dracula]

The Reo doesn't have as large a following, but at least part of that is that you have to be patient to get one. Often, if you go to the Reo website, there are none for sale. Zero. He'll put out a batch, and they'll sell out right away, and then until the next batch comes out, you can't get one.

Rob is pumping new Grand/Mini mechs out on a daily basis. If a color you want isn't in stock, PM him and it will most likely be made within the week. He doesn't keep the VV production as current, because he has admitted to not being a fan of making them. A PM will get you what you want though, quickly.

I'd be interested in a VV Reo Woody - but what are the chances I can actually buy one?

Unless you find one in the Classifieds, ZERO. The VV Woodvil is never to be produced again.

I would also be happier with them if they didn't make you stack batteries. One good 18650 battery beats the heck out of any set of stacked batteries.

The replacement of the VV is said to be an 18650 Grand with an insert for an easily accessible Kick 18mm drop in module. Rob stated he doesn't like VV chips because eventually, it doesn't matter WHO makes the electronics, they will one day fail. The drop in module (kick format) Grand would still function as a mech should the Kick fail, because it will still be 100% mechanical outside of the regulator. It would be "upgradable" should a new and improved 18mm format drop in regulator hit the market. Sounds killer to me.

I agree, the old Buzz chip and stacked 18350 battery thing is long in the tooth to say the least. I certainly don't own one...

 

[eda123]

LOL. Protank. Come on, man. Who would top their mod with a Protank.
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Oooo.. A NON provari owner being elitist!?!?! What has happened!!

A lot of people use protanks, evods, aspires, etc. They all can't vape with your setup sadly.



End of the day no mod fits all tanks, even your beloved MVP. If you are gonna hit the provari on this... Glass houses dude. Grow up.

 

[Rossum]

LOL. Protank. Come on, man. Who would top their mod with a Protank.

Due to my frustrations with cartos, my Vaporshark DNA is currently topped with an Aerotank. However, I expect to revert back to 19mm IBTs on it once my Sophia carto-shaped RBA arrives. The catch with this mod is that it's only about 19mm wide, so any topper that's fatter overhangs it and looks out of place.

 

[Lisa66]

Due to my frustrations with cartos, my Vaporshark DNA is currently topped with an Aerotank. However, I expect to revert back to 19mm IBTs on it once my Sophia carto-shaped RBA arrives. The catch with this mod is that it's only about 19mm wide, so any topper that's fatter overhangs it and looks out of place.

True. -and that's why.........

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/500190-pro-rings-2013-year-end.html

Even IBTanked makes its own version. I have it. Looks pretty good with an IBTanked.

 

[Rossum]

AK-47

Sounds like a ProVari to me.
Readily and widely available...check
Cheap compared to other "high end" mods...check

Nope, I've got two different DNA 20 mods that both included batteries and on-board chargers that were each under $200 delivered to my door. So a Provari ain't cheap.

The last time I priced good AK's they were bumping the $1,000 mark. That was almost 10 years ago, so I don't know what, if anything, has changed.

Prices on AKs are relatively high in the US due to various import restrictions. But there are plenty of places in this world where AKs can be had for about the price of a Provari.

 

[Train2]

You're right there - they do leave a lot of $ on the table for "rings" on top.
I love some 19mm tops (notably, my kir fanis tanks).
And I still use ProTanks sometimes - cuz I have them, and I have them working pretty good.
But I've also wished for a ProVape "adapter" to 22.
But like all else, different folks will want different features - some want airflow, some don't need it, etc.

Sure, but why would you want to put a 19mm device on a 22mm(?) tubular APV? If I were running an IBT on a Provari, it would be a 22mm IBT. Now I realize that some toppers (like Protanks) are only available in 19mm (or smaller), so Provape supplying something that makes those look decent makes sense, but what doesn't make sense is that they don't offer anything to make 22mm devices look decent as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they seem to leave that to others..

 

[EddardinWinter]

Again, my last ProVari was delivered to me for $159. Shipping is free with a ProVari purchase.



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[lasttango]

I use a unicorn horn… got it before they were "endangered" so I guess that makes me "less" of a monster…

I also use a provari cause they rock.

 

[Baditude]

Sure, but why would you want to put a 19mm device on a 22mm(?) tubular APV? If I were running an IBT on a Provari, it would be a 22mm IBT.

That's YOUR preference. Not everyone thinks like you or likes what you like.

The ProV looks perfect to me. Almost like it was designed for the Provari....

Actually, it was. It was one of the first third-party accessories made specifically for the Provari. More 3rd party attachment options have been designed for the Provari than any other mod. Therefore, why should Provape undertake that task when there are others more than willing to do that? Provape is just a small company which has enough on their plate by offering more options than most mod makers do with options for different colored tubes and LED colors, a choice between two sizes of Provari's, and a small mechanical mod.

The 22mm IBTanked cartotank on a Provari and a Pro Ring looks perfect. The AGA-T looks great on a Provari with a Pro Ring. Tatroe Mods makes a wide base end cap which helps protect a glass tank from tipping over and possibly breaking. They also make an extension ring for a larger size battery in a Provari.



The Kir Fanis Prive & Prive-Varadero cartotanks were specifically made for a Provari.

 

[p.opus]

EddardinWinter is a reference to his death, killed by my house. Winter = Death.

I guess expecting an MVP owner to pick up on a reference to "the Lion in Winter" and with such subtle nuances to the Song of Ice and Fire is asking too much...

Better luck next time.

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Actually I did think of Lion In Winter when I first saw your name and avatar but since the main character was Henry and His son's were Richard and John, I did not see where Eddard came in. I don't have HBO so haven't seen Game of Thrones, so that was lost on me too.

My mom was in a community theatre production of Lion In Winter. It is one of my favorite plays. The whole scheming thing is cool. I also saw the movie with Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn and it is a classic.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Actually I did think of Lion In Winter when I first saw your name and avatar but since the main character was Henry and His son's were Richard and John, I did not see where Eddard came in. I don't have HBO so haven't seen Game of Thrones, so that was lost on me too.

My mom was in a community theatre production of Lion In Winter. It is one of my favorite plays. The whole scheming thing is cool. I also saw the movie with Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn and it is a classic.

That is my favorite movie ever made.

It also features Anthony Hopkins as Richard.



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[Rossum]

Sure, but why would you want to put a 19mm device on a 22mm(?) tubular APV? If I were running an IBT on a Provari, it would be a 22mm IBT.

That's YOUR preference. Not everyone thinks like you or likes what you like.

Sure, different people like different things, but I still can't see someone wanting to put a 19mm tank with half the capacity of a 22 mm tank (of the same height) on a 22 mm tubular APV. It's not a matter of aesthetics, it's pragmatism.

 

[Fergie]

Can someone please explain to me what a "Provari bath" is?

 

[ScandaLeX]

A lot of us are simply responding to the rabid fandom exhibitted by SOME (not all) very vocal ProVari users.

There's a reason that Phil Bussardo took a crack at ProVari fandom at the beginning of his review with the whole monk and candle thing and the Enigma gregorian chat bit.

Yes, PBussardo "gets it". And he uses a ProVari, but he also recognizes that ProVari owners come out of the wood work everytime someone says something that can be construed as negative about the device, and I've gotten some borderline hateful comments from some users.

It's not the ProVari itself that draws the hatred, it's the ProVari or nothing attitude that some here exhibit. I've been on this forum for quite sometime, and never have seen a Reo thread generate the viotrol a ProVari thread will generate.

You have great ProVari users like Baditude that give thoughtful advise and appreciate that a ProVari is a long term investment and should be viewed that way. He never pushes a ProVari on anyone without thoughtfully looking at their needs.

Then you have the "others" that feel that ProVape can do no wrong....No Variable Wattage? Don't need it, it's not "real". Clumsy single button UI?...You have to get used to it...High initial investment?.....It's made in the US and if you don't buy it, you are a commie...or you could afford cigs, so surely you can afford a ProVari...As if cost were the ONLY thing keeping people from buying it.

None of that comes from the REO camp.

Make no bones about it....The ProVari, in its self is fantastic at what it does, and it's build quality is without peer. But it has remained unchanged for nearly 4 years (with the exception of .5 amp current limit raise to 3.5 amps and cosmetic tube changes). When we were "blessed" with those ultra reliable 8080KRD's it did not take long to see the advantage of a ProVari, especially when your ROI was a year on the outside.

The vaping community has changed drastically in 4 years. There are many other choices. And while they may not be the same build quality as a ProVari, they are built well enough and perform well enough to extend the ROI of a Provari from a year to several years. And for some of us, it's not HOW much we spend, but how long to we have to spend before we see a savings. With a lower cost MVP or Sigelei, If I can extend my ROI to three or more years, I feel much better about the ability to change devices as better and better units become available, instead of worrying about how long it takes me to get my $225.00 worth out of a product that hasn't changed significantly in the last 4 years.

This isn't the 1st time you said this so I'll just tell you- PBusardo wasn't mocking the ProVari or it's users. You seem to think the candle & towel was meant as a joke; on the contrary it wasn't- you just took it that way.

 

[EvilZoe]

My ProVaris don't make me better than you.


My underwear does.

 

[Ohms Lawbreaker]

Can someone please explain to me what a "Provari bath" is?

Think it's when you can afford to fill up a Jacuzzi with them, add premium e-juice, and splash around like Scarface.

It was featured on Vape-Styles of the Rich & Famous.