I don't use a ProVari,

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Hmm, center pin issues, connections that stretch out, wobbly bottom button, inconsistent ohm readings, non repairable battery, cheap materials. Lets not play that card. Nothing is fading away. If I really wanted to, I could put my Provari on the classifieds for a bit under retail and buy a couple MVPs, but honestly how many Provari owners are going out and doing that?
The only center pin issue is that it's too deep for some clearo's. Wobbly button was fixed. It actually didn't wobble, people didn't like that it wasn't flush and innokin changed the design. Inconsistent ohm readings? Links? Never had a problem. Maybe noobs not realizing that ohms can change when you get rid of hot spots. Goodnews? Non repairable battery? Sorry, you don't repair batteries. Cheap materials? That's a new one, but relative to price, I would say the materials stand up to anything.
 

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It seems hilarious every rendition of the MVP has a different problem; by rev. 36, nothing will work...

They've never had a serious problem.

I guess it can't compete with a 23 mm top cap without airflow that needs an adapter to mount any modern topper. $159 and no airflow? Score.
 

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I just bought an iTaste V3 and didn't even know I'd been drafted. Didn't even know there was an army.

Hell, I didn't even know there was a war going on until I started vaping. ;)

on your second purchase you get an honorary medal of valor. if you buy 2 at a time, a colonel hand delivers them and personally sticks the metal into your chest. the pain goes away once the bleeding stops, but the joys of ownership last for hours.

now field strip and clean that thing, soldier.
 

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They've never had a serious problem.

I guess it can't compete with a 23 mm top cap without airflow that needs an adapter to mount any modern topper. $159 and no airflow? Score.
Not one airflow problem to date....... Once those mvp's hit one year- two years of daily use, I'll jump on that airflow machine.
 

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They've never had a serious problem.

I guess it can't compete with a 23 mm top cap without airflow that needs an adapter to mount any modern topper. $159 and no airflow? Score.

I haven't had any problems- serious or otherwise. You'd think IBTanks are made for ProVari, what without the need for an airflow controller. Perhaps they just aren't modern enough for some...
 

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They've never had a serious problem.

I guess it can't compete with a 23 mm top cap without airflow that needs an adapter to mount any modern topper. $159 and no airflow? Score.
Never had an airflow issue with any 510 attachment on my Provari's. Clearo's, cartotanks, or RBA. Did you have a problem with your Provari?

My MVP fired clearos just fine, but would't fire my cartotanks initially. I had to (and continue to) pull the center pin in the MVP to finally get it to fire my cartos.
 
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Never had an airflow issue with any 510 attachment on my Provari's. Clearo's, cartotanks, or RBA. Did you have a problem with your Provari?

My MVP fired clearos just fine, but would't fire my cartotanks initially. I had to (and continue to) pull the center pin in the MVP to finally get it to fire my cartos.

i'll keep a lookout for that. i have 2 energy series' that don't have that issue with my ibtanked units. maybe they fixed it, maybe i just haven't had that issue yet. so far so good.
 

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See what joys of owning a Provari can bring.....
welcome to the club and put the flame suit on as you are now another target for nothing more than a device.

A lot of us are simply responding to the rabid fandom exhibitted by SOME (not all) very vocal ProVari users.

There's a reason that Phil Bussardo took a crack at ProVari fandom at the beginning of his review with the whole monk and candle thing and the Enigma gregorian chat bit.

Yes, PBussardo "gets it". And he uses a ProVari, but he also recognizes that ProVari owners come out of the wood work everytime someone says something that can be construed as negative about the device, and I've gotten some borderline hateful comments from some users.

It's not the ProVari itself that draws the hatred, it's the ProVari or nothing attitude that some here exhibit. I've been on this forum for quite sometime, and never have seen a Reo thread generate the viotrol a ProVari thread will generate.

You have great ProVari users like Baditude that give thoughtful advise and appreciate that a ProVari is a long term investment and should be viewed that way. He never pushes a ProVari on anyone without thoughtfully looking at their needs.

Then you have the "others" that feel that ProVape can do no wrong....No Variable Wattage? Don't need it, it's not "real". Clumsy single button UI?...You have to get used to it...High initial investment?.....It's made in the US and if you don't buy it, you are a commie...or you could afford cigs, so surely you can afford a ProVari...As if cost were the ONLY thing keeping people from buying it.

None of that comes from the REO camp.

Make no bones about it....The ProVari, in its self is fantastic at what it does, and it's build quality is without peer. But it has remained unchanged for nearly 4 years (with the exception of .5 amp current limit raise to 3.5 amps and cosmetic tube changes). When we were "blessed" with those ultra reliable 8080KRD's it did not take long to see the advantage of a ProVari, especially when your ROI was a year on the outside.

The vaping community has changed drastically in 4 years. There are many other choices. And while they may not be the same build quality as a ProVari, they are built well enough and perform well enough to extend the ROI of a Provari from a year to several years. And for some of us, it's not HOW much we spend, but how long to we have to spend before we see a savings. With a lower cost MVP or Sigelei, If I can extend my ROI to three or more years, I feel much better about the ability to change devices as better and better units become available, instead of worrying about how long it takes me to get my $225.00 worth out of a product that hasn't changed significantly in the last 4 years.
 

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Never had an airflow issue with any 510 attachment on my Provari's. Clearo's, cartotanks, or RBA. Did you have a problem with your Provari?

My MVP fired clearos just fine, but would't fire my cartotanks initially. I had to (and continue to) pull the center pin in the MVP to finally get it to fire my cartos.
You can't adjust the pin on the cartomizer? You have to pull the pin on the mod? Madness. Do those cartomizers last forever or are they disposable?
 
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