I don't use a ProVari,

[p.opus]

The pin on the cartos were fine and worked on every other mod that own. Only on the MVP did they not make an electrical connection. The center pin on the MVP is too loose and can be too easily pushed in with a normal connector on any juice attachment.

And no I'm not mad. I know what I'm doing.

I'm not sure if the center pin on the MVP is too loose, or the well is too deep. The VV3's have this problem as well. If I am not mistaken the 510 connection standard was only a diameter standard and not a "depth" standard. I know on my Evod, the Ego Collar would bottom out before the pin made contact.

A lot of us have asked innokin to resolve this. Either shave the 510 head down a bit, or better, make an adjustable center pin....Hopefully this will be resolved down the road.

 

[Baditude]

I'm not sure if the center pin on the MVP is too loose, or the well is too deep.
A lot of us have asked Innokin to resolve this. Either shave the 510 head down a bit, or better, make an adjustable center pin....Hopefully this will be resolved down the road.

IMO, it's too loose and too easy to be manipulated. I only use 510 thread attachments. I have never had this problem with any of my other mods, at least not with the frequency that I do with the MVP. The center pin on mine needs to be teased up at least once a week, and that's just from occassional use.

I still love the MVP. The only other pet peeve I have with mine is the fire switch. Mine is the first gen with the flush button. At night while driving, I have trouble finding the switch. While my thumb stumbles around trying to fire it, I invariably press it 3 times and turn the dang thing off.

 

[Riverboat]

The prov is a nice battery holder that would make a great starter device for a noob.It just needs to be priced in the $40-50 range where it belongs.

I could agree more, then that would put the Ego Twist in the $4-$5 price range where it belongs

 

[CommaHolly]

IMO, it's too loose and too easy to be manipulated. I only use 510 thread attachments. I have never had this problem with any of my other mods, at least not with the frequency that I do with the MVP. The center pin on mine needs to be teased up at least once a week, and that's just from occassional use.

I still love the MVP. The only other pet peeve I have with mine is the fire switch. Mine is the first gen with the flush button. At night while driving, I have trouble finding the switch. While my thumb stumbles around trying to fire it, I invariably press it 3 times and turn the dang thing off.

the MVP2 solved that issue, but the button is so hard, I've got muscles on my right thumb now

 

[p.opus]

IMO, it's too loose and too easy to be manipulated. I only use 510 thread attachments. I have never had this problem with any of my other mods, at least not with the frequency that I do with the MVP. The center pin on mine needs to be teased up at least once a week, and that's just from occassional use.

I still love the MVP. The only other pet peeve I have with mine is the fire switch. Mine is the first gen with the flush button. At night while driving, I have trouble finding the switch. While my thumb stumbles around trying to fire it, I invariably press it 3 times and turn the dang thing off.

That would be annoying.....so glad they resolved that....

As far as the center pin, I checked mine out again and it seems pretty solid. I wonder if they went with a solid pin in the MVP 2 and then made the well a little too deep. I know with my evod it was not the pin but the evod bottoming out on the ego thread before contact was made.....Ironically none of my mini PT 2's have this issue.

 

[Riverboat]

I'm showing my age here, but Mr. Ed was a horse.

Good stuff Baditude, I actually watched one of the episodes....

 

[Aaron Kestler]

I'm with a lot of you. The provari just looks so plain. No one makes anything to dress it up with. I wouldn't even have one except that it was passed down from my grandfather. Even has the chip in the paint from that bullet it took for gramps back in WW-nam.

I'd have gotten something else but it saved his life so I'm kind of obligated and the dang thing just won't die.

 

[bulldog63h]

A debate implies that one side can win....there is no winning here....it's like debating a wall lol

Well, my wall is far superior to your wall.

 

[AngiBe]

because for the money you spent on a provari you could have bought a vamo and donated rest to homeless kids or cancer research! It's been proven, provari owners hate homeless children.

Ya, I guess you're right. But as a ProVari Owner

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I decided to buy my ProVari and VOLUNTEER my time for nearly two years for abused and neglected kids. Worth a lot more than throwing my money at some "charity" hoping a kid would even see a dime. So if anyone, ProVari owner or not, would truly like to help a kid, try signing up for CASA (not to be confused with CASAA, which we should all band together and join)

So shocking, I know, that even ProVari owners love homeless kids.

 

[AngiBe]

Sry didn't see the banner......I only got to like the third thread.

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[crxess]

IMO, it's too loose and too easy to be manipulated. I only use 510 thread attachments. I have never had this problem with any of my other mods, at least not with the frequency that I do with the MVP. The center pin on mine needs to be teased up at least once a week, and that's just from occassional use.

I still love the MVP. The only other pet peeve I have with mine is the fire switch. Mine is the first gen with the flush button. At night while driving, I have trouble finding the switch. While my thumb stumbles around trying to fire it, I invariably press it 3 times and turn the dang thing off.

Tiny little o-ring - problem solved
Lose yes, but the problem is drop not wiggle
A small o-ring will take up slop under the pin and allow you to enjoy using it more.
And depth is a slight problem on more than one device when trying to use Carto's. I've noticed the Boge carto has an almost level center pin. I deal with it, I like the performance of my Boges,

Now Back to your regularly scheduled debate

 

[duroSIG556R]

*correction* Orbtronicsbattery, which is a rebranded AW, or maybe panasonic..the black wrapper reminds me of AW's. If you use high quality batteries, they don't necessarily have to be IMR. I would think it all depends on the amp rating.

 

[p.opus]

Tiny little o-ring - problem solved
Lose yes, but the problem is drop not wiggle
A small o-ring will take up slop under the pin and allow you to enjoy using it more.
And depth is a slight problem on more than one device when trying to use Carto's. I've noticed the Boge carto has an almost level center pin. I deal with it, I like the performance of my Boges,

Now Back to your regularly scheduled debate

Not sure how you are using that o-ring. Are you putting that o-ring UNDER the center post to keep it up? That is an interesting idea. I don't see the slop on mine to allow an o-ring "underneath" it...

 

[Baditude]

Tiny little o-ring - problem solved
Lose yes, but the problem is drop not wiggle
A small o-ring will take up slop under the pin and allow you to enjoy using it more.
And depth is a slight problem on more than one device when trying to use Carto's. I've noticed the Boge carto has an almost level center pin. I deal with it...

I couldn't follow what he was trying to explain either. What do you consider "slop"? And you put the o-ring under the pin? You remove the pin entirely to place it under the pin? Doesn't that block the electrical connection with the battery? Oye ve!

 

[omyeyes]

omg can't everyone just vape in peace, no matter what they use?

^^^^this^^^^

 

[p.opus]

omg I just got off of the provari hating thread. I couldn't help myself from reading. Kind of like the newspaper. And here I find another. Can't everyone just vape in peace, no matter what they use?

I can only speak for myself, but I enjoy the back and forth "sparring". And I just might learn something in the process, like the LED on the ProVari is used because it is the most liquid resistant display available.....And I just thought they were kind of "cheaping out...."

It's all good though....

 

[PLANofMAN]

Aaaaand it's about time for one of these methinks...

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Not quite yet.

The prov is a nice battery holder that would make a great starter device for a noob.It just needs to be priced in the $40-50 range where it belongs.

I totally agree. Now can you post up some links to some mods in the $40-50 range that can offer me the same features, warranty, servicing, reliability and durability that the ProVari offers. I would love to know more. How on earth did these wonder mods slip beneath my radar?

I can only speak for myself, but I enjoy the back and forth "sparring". And I just might learn something in the process, like the LED on the ProVari is used because it is the most liquid resistant display available.....And I just thought they were kind of "cheaping out...."

It's all good though....

Don't forget about the ProVari's mechanical button. Zero electronics, rated for a minimum of 1,000,000 presses.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Fujitsu_Leaf_Spring
It's the same type of mechanism used on the old IBM keyboards. Man, I wish keyboards were still made like that. Indestructible.

 

[Baditude]

*correction* Orbtronicsbattery, which is a rebranded AW, or maybe panasonic..the black wrapper reminds me of AW's. If you use high quality batteries, they don't necessarily have to be IMR. I would think it all depends on the amp rating.

Orbtronics rebrands Panasonic batteries, and possibly one from Samsung.

I highly disagree with your statement that if you use high quality batteries (you need to be more specific on this) that they do not necessarily have to be IMR.

AW makes a high quality protected ICR battery which is black and silver (probably a rebranded Panasonic), but it would not have near the amp rating (3 - 4 amps) of an IMR (10 amp minimum).

Mod batteries should be carefully chosen by chemistry type and amp rating depending upon the application that they are going to be used. I've attempted to put this type of information in the following blogs.

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

 

[p.opus]

Not quite yet.

I totally agree. Now can you post up some links to some mods in the $40-50 range that can offer me the same features, warranty, servicing, reliability and durability that the ProVari offers. I would love to know more. How on earth did these wonder mods slip beneath my radar?

Don't forget about the ProVari's mechanical button. Zero electronics, rated for a minimum of 1,000,000 presses.

ROUND TWO!!!!! Bing Bing Bing!!!!!

 

[Coelli]

I forgot to add one more reason I bought my Provari - if anything happens during the warranty period, I don't have to send it back myself; the B&M I bought it from will send it back and handle everything and give me a loaner until mine comes back. I'm not going to get that with anything else.