I guess you are all wondering why I called you all here today.

[Tim the Enchanter]

[snip] ( if 8 mg is the highest you have that may be why you still need the analogs (regular cigs)).[snip]

Oh man, petem!!! I think you hit the nail on the head there!! I didn't think of that. The same night (Monday) that I first read your post I went back over to the mall and bought the highest mg they had, which was 16mg. They are definitely giving me more satisfaction, but still not enough.

Something has me confused, though. Maybe you can figure it out if you have the time. If I go to their website at this page and click on the link about half way down the page that reads:

"Click Here to see the equivalence chart."

This chart pops up:

(click to enlarge)

What the hell are they talking about?

Does that chart make ANY sense to you (or anyone else)? I though mg for one type of e-cig (The Duo, which is a two-piece like I have), would be the same as for another type (like their The Trio, which is a three-piece).



Thx!

Tim

 

[Rosa]

chart-shmart!

If you drink some beer and it gets you drunk, then you can assume it had alcohol in it.

If you can vape and feel satisfied, then you know you got the right mg of nicotine. (*if you have to go over 36mg, something else is wrong. Anything 36mg and under is considered normal)

All the math in the world won't make you quit smoking.

 

[jjj]

Tim, I have a good friend who goes by the name of Tim the Enchanter. But he lives in New York. I'll have to ask him if he's related to the Dayton Enchanters.

In addition to a name, it appears you share humor DNA.

 

[Tim the Enchanter]

Travis,

Welcome!

Thx.

You might play around with what you have while it's new to you, and eventually step up to something like a 510 or an ego.

I'm probably going to get both of those, or maybe just the eGo in a manual first. (I never thought I would want a manual, nor anything that didn't look like an analog. All of you here seem to know quite well of what you speak! LOL)

Are the connections on the 510 and eGo the same for charging purposes?

The other PV that seems to interest me is the Vapor King e-Cig from Vapor4Life. They seem to have a pretty nice starter package with the cases, PCC's, USB passthroughs, etc. Anyone have any thoughts about it compared to the Joye 510 and the accessories available for it?

The 10 hole charger for the Joye 510 that some vendors offer makes it a bit more attractive to me. I wonder if you could use adapters with a charger like that and charge other batteries. hmmm... Maybe I could also make my own multi-charger! I owned a hobby shop for 5 years in the late `70's that specialized in radio control and am VERY, VERY familiar with batteries and chargers -- just not how these e-Cig batteries, connections and switches work. Guess I'll need to dissect one.

I won't lie to you. If you stick with this long enough and hand around these forums, you're probably going to end up caring less and less about the cigarette look and end up with a mod. Batteries just get wayyyyy to frustrating.

I'm already finding that out, Travis. You, sir, are right on target!

Thx!

Tim

 

[Brewlady]

Hi, Tim

If you have questions, I found that the people in chat are both knowledgeable and willing to help. I got my new eGo and wasn't sure about some things, I hopped in there and got my questions answered immediately. Everyone here is very helpful, my only problem is I'm spending way too much time on here learning, and the laundry is piling up! Good luck with this, look for vendors that sell sample sizes, there's a whole new world of flavors out there!!

 

[Icoth]

You might want to attend the Dayton Vapors Meetup on 23 Oct. The guys from the Vaporcast podcast are running it. Details are on there website

 

[VeeDubb65]

If you stick with this long enough and hand around these forums, you're probably going to end up caring less and less about the cigarette look and end up with a mod. Batteries just get wayyyyy to frustrating.

I've been vaping since July, and I was one that started with Blu because of the cigarette size/feel. Then I got frustrated with quality and moved to a Revolver Elite because it's better made and still cig size. I was just CERTAIN that I really wanted and needed something cig sized. Of course, less than a month on the Elite and one of the batts died hard last night.... PITA.

If you really "need" a cig sized PV, then there are some decent ones out there, but my ego should be delivered by friday.........

 

[Tim the Enchanter]

Yeah, looks like it is probably an E9/KR808D-2 model...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-cartridges-compatible-any-other-battery.html
Which Electric Cigarettes Are Compatible With Eachother?

Thanks, DC2. I found those sites and this whole thing interesting. I'm presently thinking I should just to cut my loses, smoke up the carts I have, and go with other, better PV's mentioned here; or try to refill these old carts once dead with something better for a couple more uses of them -- higher in mg and other juice tastes. I just don't think I want to invest more down this line of vaping.

Thx much for your info an reply!

Tim

 

[Katya]

I love my Riva. I highly recommend it. Get some Boge cartomizers to go with it.

Liberty Flights was running a special recently, $29 for a Riva starter kit. It's a steal.

Good luck.

 

[Tim the Enchanter]

[snip] ...so I pitched the cartos just to end my frustration. [snip]

You are probably wiser than me, Jetmec, but I am headed down a path pretty close to parallel to that.

I have not been a member here that long but it is the first site I go to when I boot my computer in the morning. It has even got me off the ......... circuit.

Man!!!! YOU MUST REALLY like Vaping!!!!!

LOL

Thx!

Tim

 

[Tim the Enchanter]

chart-shmart!
All the math in the world won't make you quit smoking.

Very wise of you, Rosa.

I just found it quite odd that mg's aren't equal to mg's depending on if it's an atty or cart. Did you look at that chart closely as to how the two don't equal each other? Disregard how they think mg's compare to analogs, that's not my question.

Thx again!

Tim

 

[DaveP]

The ultimate starter kit is the Joye 510 kit for $35 from Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store.. You get 2 510s with 2 batteries, 2 atomizers, 5 prefilled carts, and a charger.

After a while you will want to upgrade to the Ego, around $70. At Cignot, you get 2 of everything again with the Ego kit, but the batteries last 6-8 hours each. You could also just purchase the Ego batteries for about $40 a pair, plus two cones @ $3, and a charger for about $12, since the rest of the Ego kit is 510 stuff, but you will need some more atomizers by that time, anyway and the chargers are not compatible.

We all stay away from the Mall Kiosks. Too pricey!

Check out the library, especially the 6 part series "The Wonderful World of Vaping."
The ECF Library

 

[Travis798]

I wonder if perhaps they are using atomizers with different resistance between the two of them? I know personally 36mg was the only thing that would ever even get close to satisfying me. After trying out a LR atomizer, I don't know I would have a problem stepping down to say 30mg. At 6 volts with a standard atty, I may even be able to drop to 24. Basically, less resistance=more wattage to the atomizer, which in turn leads to a hotter atomizer, leading to better vapor production, and therefore better nicotine delivery. Of course, even if that were the case, using a LR atomizer on those sized batteries is going to lead to some dead batteries very soon.

 

[petem]

The vapor 4 life is a kr808d-1 which is the second most popular model by users on this fourm (510 type most popular). Think I heard of a "ego" size battery coming out for the kr808d-1. I would not get 10 510 batteries and the 10 hole charger if going the 510 option get an ego/riva/torando with anywhere between 650 to 1000 mah batteries avail. you can charge an ego type battery with a regular 510 charger (will take a long time) but DO NOT charge a regular 510 battery on an ego charger (ego fast charger output 4.2V 420mA) I don't have a regular 510 charger but think the output would be about 200mA (will damage the regular battery and may be more if fire starts). I think someone found a 510 to E9 adaptor will post if I find it again. Found one on this post http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/electronic-cigarette-reviews/117118-last-510-e9-greensmoke-adapter-vapure.html it for using a 510 battery on E9/kr808d-2 carto.

As for the chart from the web site I think it goes along the line of how many total mg there are in each system for ex a carto can hold 1.5 ml and a cart .5 ml so for the same total mg of nic in the device the cart will need 3 times the mg level (1.5 ml of 6mg juice is 9 mg .5 ml of 18 mg juice is 9 mg)). Not anymore useful that some claims that a carto is equal to 1 to 1 1/2 packs of regular cigs.

 

[Tim the Enchanter]

[snip] Everyone here is very helpful, my only problem is I'm spending way too much time on here learning, and the laundry is piling up!

What? You don't have some old bic lighters or matches lying around?

Thx, Brewlady!

Tim

 

[FieryOne]

Tim, welcome and great to e-meet you. If you are looking for something reasonably priced for you and your wife and want decent battery life, throat hit and vapor look at primevapor.com. They have a couples starter kit that is a KR808D-1 that comes 4 batteries (2 auto and two manual), a charger, pcc (personal charging case), a usb passthrough and two carrying cases for 69.00 and shipping is free. You also get 2 4 packs of cartomizers in either mentol or marlboro style flavors. They ship very quicky and you can be well set up in a couple of days. That got me completly off analogs from day one. My husband took a bit longer but he is ther now. In addition I ordered one Joye Ego kit that came with two complete egos and my husband and I split that so we each have one. Good luck!

 

[otrpu]

If I were you I'd take my Wifey and go to the meet. I say this, never having been to a meet in my state. I ask um to come to a meet for me. . .Monday or Tuesday, 'bout noon would be great. They all said, "Fat chance you'll ever meet anybody." Thinking of changing name to "Lone Wolf".

Dayton Vapers Meet

http://www.bostonsbistro.com/

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vaporbomb/127540-hall-o-vape-oct-23-akron-ohio-update.html

Welcome to VaporCast

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[DC2]

Something has me confused, though. Maybe you can figure it out if you have the time. If I go to their website at this page and click on the link about half way down the page that reads:

"Click Here to see the equivalence chart."

This chart pops up:

View attachment 20085 (click to enlarge)

What the hell are they talking about?

That chart is the same weight as a duck and is therefore made of wood.
I think you know what I'm getting at here.


Basically, that chart is absurd, and turned me into a newt.
(But I got better)

That chart is based on the claims of how many cigarettes a cartridge is worth.
And both are based on the assumption that we absorb all the nictotine in a cartridge when we vape it.

And that is completely and totally incorrect.

 

[Rosa]

you can charge an ego type battery with a regular 510 charger (will take a long time) but DO NOT charge a regular 510 battery on an ego charger

Yes, but just to clarify: you can charge an eGo on a 510 charger with an adapter that you can buy for cheap.

And to help in your decision making; keep in mind that you can get adapters that allow you to use just about any battery with just about any atty/cart/carto that you like. So if you want the eGo battery but you like the KR808D-1 cartomizers.... there's an adapter for that.

 

[Tim the Enchanter]

I love my Riva. I highly recommend it. Get some Boge cartomizers to go with it.

Liberty Flights was running a special recently, $29 for a Riva starter kit. It's a steal.

Good luck.

Riva / eGo ... Riva / eGo ... Riva / eGo ........ damn! I hate you people!

Just kidding, ofc.

That Riva does look quite interesting and, as should be apparent, I'm having a hard time making up my mind about what to try next. A normal 510, a 510 Riva, an eGo, etc. The worst part is that it is already Thursday morning and I think I've probably blown it as far as receiving anything this week.

It looks like Liberty Flights is sold out of the Riva 510 atm, Katya, but I think I did figure out how you got to the $29 price; i.e. $37.49 regularly for the Riva 510 Starter Kits at Liberty Flights' website less the 20% October discount for using discount code october20 -- or $29.92. Right?

If you know, do all the buttons on the Rivas have LED's that glow when you press them? The reason I'm asking is that the COV Riva 510 -Silver says that it does, but there is no mention of a glowing LED button at the Liberty Flights website.

Thx!

Tim