I just want the best...

[Vapoor eyes er]

ROFL Vapoor eyes er I think i've said this before - you must be my long lost twin brother that I never even knew I had

Maybe you're my long lost twin

Hugs to the Lady

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Yeah, you're going to get a lot of different answers, because people interests and tastes and experiences differ. Kits are a good idea, because you can sometimes get a nice bundle including chargers, batteries, etc. For a good to great startup kit, I would think you would want these qualities:

1. Two good stick batteries with variable voltage. Anything from the Twist/Spinner to the top of the line iTaste 3.0. Make sure that the stick batts provide for both ego and 510 threading.
2. At least two good clearomizers. The evod is very good. Most starters seem to prefer bottom coils, from what I've observed. The best clearo on the market imho is the Protank II. So, a couple of evods, some replacement head coils and a Protank II will get you started just great.
3. Sampler packs and local B&M stores' juice bars is the way to shop for good juice.

Good luck to you. During the last year, a starter kit like this link has been the most popular on the Forum, and for good reason:

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm

All the best, welcome to the Forum, happy vaping, power up and vape on!

 

[Flavourful]

I've been on this forum for 2 days and already love it...you're all so helpful! (not that I understand everything yet lol)

I thought ego and 510 threads were the same thing?

I'm off to bed now but will hopefully make some decisions tomorrow. I'll post up what I'm going to get beforehand so you can let me know if I've made the right choices

Thanks guys

 

[JulesXsmokr]

Op - the best today will be tossed tomorrow, for everything, except possibly the Provari PV.

for a newbie, bottom coil all the way thru intermiediate.. having turned many folks on to vaping and listening to their dry hit and burnt tastes problems, I suggest a Kanger EVOD tank/clearo ..and "experiment" from there....

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I thought ego and 510 threads were the same thing?

They are 2 diff types of connector and are the most popular giving the user the greatest choice of accessories.

 

[Baditude]

Thanks for your input Baditude. I think you're right, if I'm looking for a PV for the long term than I may as well go variable voltage from the start.

If I forget the non leaking criteria, do your recommendations stay the same?

The Mini Provari looks really good. Bit of a broad question, but is the extra cost justified? I never thought an e cig could be that pricey to be honest!

The MVP also looks good, but I think it may be a bit big to comfortably keep in my pocket with my wallet or phone!

What do you use?

I use both the Mini Provari and the MVP. Both easily fit in my front pants pocket. Although the MVP is a high quality mod in itself and I enjoy using it, the Provari is unmatched in quality and gets the majority of my use.

Leaking e-liquid is not the issue with any battery device. They are not responsible for holding the e-juice, the attachment on the battery device is.

I use both cartotanks and clearomizers on both the Provari and the MVP. I've never had an issue with leaking with either attachment.

I use IBTanked pyrex cartotanks and the Innokin iClear 30 clearomizers.



The owners of a Provari will give an unqualified "YES" when asked if the cost is justified. Just go to the Provari sub-forums here on ECF to find out why. I could write a book about it.

 

[Flavourful]

Op - the best today will be tossed tomorrow, for everything, except possibly the Provari PV.

for a newbie, bottom coil all the way thru intermiediate.. having turned many folks on to vaping and listening to their dry hit and burnt tastes problems, I suggest a Kanger EVOD tank/clearo ..and "experiment" from there....

Hi Jules, what kind of experimenting do you mean!?

Thanks for that pic Vapoor. So for my portable (taking out the house), I should be looking for a variable voltage battery that has both an external ego thread and an internal 510 thread...riiiiggggggghhhhttttt!

Sorry for more newbie questions but what is:

1. A pass through
2. A mechanical mod/electronic mod?

Is there anywhere on the site that explains all these terms? I can't see anywhere obvious in the new members forum.

Thanks again

 

[Flavourful]

I use both the Mini Provari and the MVP. Both easily fit in my front pants pocket. Although the MVP is a high quality mod in itself and I enjoy using it, the Provari is unmatched in quality and gets the majority of my use.

I use IBTanked pyrex cartotanks and the Innokin iClear 30 clearomizers.

Thanks Baditude.

So you have the mini provari for taking out and the MVP for home? Have you ever tried the REO?

And you don't use the tanks sold by Provape? So I take it that Provape produce one of the best APVs but not the best tanks?...

How are tanks different to clearomizers? argh there are so many terms I still don't know.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Thanks for that pic Vapoor. So for my portable (taking out the house), I should be looking for a variable voltage battery that has both an external ego thread and an internal 510 thread...riiiiggggggghhhhttttt!

ECF is a lil addictive
Pretty well all eGo/ Riva style PVs have both eGo and 510 threading. Spinners and Twists also have both threadings.

Sorry for more newbie questions but what is:

1. A pass through
2. A mechanical mod/electronic mod?

A pass through is a PV that can be connected to a wall adapter or a usb port and charged/ used.
A Mech Mod is all mechanical with no electronics- usually very sturdy PVs- My first PV was a Mech Mod. They fire @ 3.7 volts BUT lower ohms juice delivery devices can be attached to give a stronger hit. Also a "kick" can be installed making it variable voltage.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-apv-reviews/284473-kick-evolv.html
My Mech Mod still fires as great as the day I bought it.
An electronic Mod has pcb electronics. There are inexpensive and high priced electronic Mods- diff between them is the quality of the electronics and PV/ threading, etc IMO. I own a Vamo 2 and Vamo 3 and each cost me $30.00 BUT I wasn't expecting them to last as long as they have.

 

[Baditude]

Thanks Baditude.

So you have the mini provari for taking out and the MVP for home? Have you ever tried the REO?

And you don't use the tanks sold by Provape? So I take it that Provape produce one of the best APVs but not the best tanks?...

How are tanks different to clearomizers? argh there are so many terms I still don't know.

I use both the Mini Provari and the MVP for home and out, they are extremely versatile mods.

I don't have a Reo bottom feeder box mod, but I do have the less expensive Vapage VMod bottom feeder box mod you can see below. I enjoy it, but I can only use one flavor with it due to the time it takes to change the built-in juice tank, so it doesn't see a lot of attention from me. I have to choose wisely what flavor I use with this. It is a pocket-friendly mod, too.



You can see all the mods that I use and the applications that I use them in here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/474993-just-curious-2.html#post10850383

How cartotanks, clearotanks, and RBA tanks differ can be found here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/474993-just-curious-4.html#post10857278

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I owned a Provari and it was a quality PV without a doubt. Borrowed a friend's Reo and it kicked .... because it's basically an automatic dripper- dripping prolly the strongest most flavorful vape you'll ever experience whether it's from a Reo or an atomizer (coil in a metal tube without filler). The Reo also comes in variable voltage. I doubt if you would ever find an owner of a Reo that has complaints.
My advice would be to first purchase a smaller VV PV- Spinner, Twist, MVP, etc and if you like it move up to the Mini Provari or the full size Provari.
How many analogs do you smoke each day? A very important question that I forgot to ask.

 

[azzaman]

Where you are, probably a du bocage. Uk vaper did a review on it. That same site sells a bf rba. Otherwise get yourself a reo and a rm2.

 

[azzaman]

Thanks for the responses everyone,

Izan, I'm really looking for something more professional so I don't feel the need to ever upgrade, I'm not sure if the Maxi fits into that category...

Cliven, the Reo Grand looks insane...lol. It doesn't look too portable though, not something that I'd keep in my pocket on a night out. I do see a lot of people mention the Provari though...that'll go on my short list! Thanks

Chrissie, thank you for that link. May I ask why you have suggested this one as opposed to the "Vape Escape Vision 1000 Ultimate" or the "Joyetech eGo-C 1000 Kit" which are listed on that website?

Vapoor, so this is the same as the Riva that Chrissie is suggesting? KGO kit1100mAh by SLB

Ruby, I suppose I can deal with a small amount of leakage over time, it's not a dealbreaker. Are you suggesting I build up the bits from scratch as opposed to getting a kit? I'm a bit lost with everything you said there...remember I'm new to all this!

Thanks everyone

Honestly mate, you want a reo mini. Especially cause you want something small, and you can't break it. All my mates including myself have broken our smaller e cigs going out. If you drop it, spill beer on it, kick it along the ground, it's still going to work.

 

[Racehorse]

So for my portable (taking out the house), I should be looking for a variable voltage battery that has both an external ego thread and an internal 510 thread...riiiiggggggghhhhttttt!

Sorry for more newbie questions but what is:

1. A pass through

pass thru means you can plug into a usb port and still vape while it's charging

VV, VW, and passthru, and darn nice looking
Innokin iTaste VV:

Personally, i use a REO. Mini 14500 and Mini 2.1. Don't even NEED VV on these things, they hit like a beast and are entirely mechanical. replaceable batteries, so just carry a few small batts around instead of a whole nother mod/charger, etc.

 

[Flavourful]

Thanks again guys, loads of info for me to consider.

I had a long day today and don't have the time to do any proper research tonight but will do this weekend.

What are benefits of the REO Grand over the REO Mini? If I get a REO, it would only be for using at home.

Vapoor, I'm currently off the analogs, have been for almost 2 weeks I was smoking about 10 a day, mostly in the evenings at home.

Unfortunately the crappy ecig I got from my supermarket tastes like .... and gives me a slightly sore throat...probably a combination of a cheap product and quitting analogs.

I've also got loads of friends that smoke analogs and have no idea about the APVs out there. From the sound of things I could convert them all with a REO or Provari...

 

[Flavourful]

If I want to keep the possibility of RBAs open for the future, should I be taking that into consideration with what I buy now? I mean, can this be done with all ego/510 threads and the Provari/REO/MVP?

Also, should I be looking to get glass tanks?

 

[Baditude]

If I want to keep the possibility of RBAs open for the future, should I be taking that into consideration with what I buy now? I mean, can this be done with all ego/510 threads and the Provari/REO/MVP?

Also, should I be looking to get glass tanks?

That should play a part into your choice.

As has been pointed out already, with the Reo being a bottom feeder mod, that is its specialty: dripping. It will have limitations to what you can use on it. It best makes use of a quality drip atomizer, a short cartomizer, or RDA's designed for the Reo. It can not use clearomizers or cartotanks easily.

A Provari can use any juice attachment with equal capability.

RBA/RDAs use 510 threading, and although an ego battery connector can accept them, you don't really want to put one on an ego. The Provari will accept any of the RBA/RDAs. You could use an RBA on a Reo, but not use the Reo as a bottom feeder with one, only as a regular mechanical mod would.

My personal favorite juice attachments are pyrex cartotanks. For me, their flavor is on a level of a drip atomizer, but that's my experience. I keep several cartotanks up running simultaneously, each with their own flavor. I change flavors 3 - 4 times a day, and to switch flavor is as easy as removing one tank for another. This could be done with the Reo, too, but process is somewhat longer and somewhat more complex IMO due to the built-in tank. People who use a Reo have a single all-day-vape flavor and don't change flavors frequently like I do.

 

[Flavourful]

Ok...I can't just choose one so put all the recommended batteries and tanks in a spreadsheet...lol

The variable wattage batteries seem pretty chunky, except the Innokin iTaste V3. I'm not sure if I need VW though?

One thing I've realised is that all of them are a lot larger than I thought, especially the tanks - 64mm! Should just about fit in my pocket when I'm out and about...

Tanks - I'll probably get a Protank 2, but maybe a Smoktech DCT...at least I've (almost) chosen one part so far.

I can't guarantee the accuracy of my web searches but they should be close enough.

This spreadsheet is a bit sad, I know

Any final opinions on any of these products?

 

[unsure]

pass thru means you can plug into a usb port and still vape while it's charging

VV, VW, and passthru, and darn nice looking
Innokin iTaste VV:

Personally, i use a REO. Mini 14500 and Mini 2.1. Don't even NEED VV on these things, they hit like a beast and are entirely mechanical. replaceable batteries, so just carry a few small batts around instead of a whole nother mod/charger, etc.

+1 and shipped almost everywhere http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/217670-reo-roll-call-37.html#post10878000 Good luck.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Congrats
I own both and prefer the Spinner over the Twist cuz the voltage dial is knurled and #'s easier to see.
Twist

Spinner

Have to go for dinner.