I love my new Screwdriver....

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lachesis

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To be honest, I am not a big fan of 801 attys nor carts. It's one of the reason I'm staying off from certain mod(s). Probably it's user error, but if I can't use it for whatever reason, it's not for me. Smaller mini atomizers seemed to work better for me and still does. Maybe it's the way I draw or what not. 801 attys were just way too easy to draw - and since I used to pack my cigs pretty tight to have hard draw.... so I like my 4075 and 901 attys much better than 801 - even with inconvenience of having to top-off or drip more often.

Anyhow, I have both 4075 and 901 attys for my SD. I use 4075 for the carts - great vapor production and throat hit. I use 901 for dripping - because the wick is more accessable. I get much more kick out of 4075 attys - but I have mouthfull of yummy, non-burnt taste and tons of vapor with 901 atty.

I had some fruity juice cocktails, which I didn't like with my previous ones... just tasted so meh. Now with 901 dripping method, it's the most frequently visited juice in my collection. I thought I'd never be able to use it up - and almost about to throw-away the whole 30ml - now I'm in love with it. :D However, if I do want some kick, I go for 4075 with cart, filled with 18-24mg - and total satisfaction.

Remember, SD is one of the first commercially available mod - and things do get improved over time - and I'm sure the newer mods probably would surpass SD's performance for good margin. Most of them are also cheaper than SD as well and I'd like to have them too... But SD is giving me total satisfaction at the moment, and I am planning to use this for at least a full year before I consider getting any other mods. (and so help me god. ;)) Catching up with the Joneses would only cost me more money, and I already spent so much money of various e-cigs. It's not like I need 2 e-cigs in my mouth simultaneously... oh wait, I know people who vape 2 901s at once. ;)
 

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Remember, SD is one of the first commercially available mod - and things do get improved over time - and I'm sure the newer mods probably would surpass SD's performance for good margin.

Personally, I don't buy that. If by newer mods = improvement you mean higher voltage = improvement - I'm not convinced.
 

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WV and Cinn, me too. I was constantly giving in to the temptation to buy a pack out of sheer frustration with regular ecigs and their batteries, before I got my first SD back in late November. Since then, not an issue.

WV, yes, because the 510 cart really holds more liquid, so topping off is less frequent. I bought a couple of five packs from Dietsmokes, and have been really happy with them.

Thanks, yvilla. I plan to try the 510 carts. There is a new supplier called Rocky Mountain Vapor that is providing free shipping and his prices are quite good. When he gets his 510 carts in and his KENT liquid in, I'm going to be putting in an order and taking advantage of the free shipping.

I don't blame you for being skeptical about the larger powered new PV's. I hope the Prodigy is as good as the SD. I'm a little concerned about it screwing up the flavor of the liquid. I want two larger battery PV's that I can rotate and depend on. And I would rather have more than one supplier to depend on. I hope this is it but we will see.
 

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Is there a difference in an e-liquid "throat hit" compared to say a device, like the SD "throat hit?... It's hard to explain what I mean... But I like when I get a good throat/lung hit from some eliquids...However, I tried a 510 with my reg juice and it kind of burnt my throat.. Is that the kind of throat hit you mean in reguards to the SD?

I want a non throat burning, flavor producing mod lol
 

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Razor, no throat burning here. Just a nice satisfying sense that I'm getting a hit, that I never got consistently before my SD.

JABLUES, I'm probably not the best one to answer your question, because I don't like any eliquid that doesn't have menthol added (I add crystals to any and all flavors I've tried, unless I actually bought menthol liquid in the first place).
 
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Question for the Forum...

I just got my SD delivered Friday and have been vaping since. I thought the 901 carts are the replacement carts so orered a ton of blanks from Ruyandirect.com. When you mention in the thread above bout the 510's, does that mean my 901's are the wrong size or the 510's just need less refilling. I'm a bit of a newbie so just learning.

Actually, my learning curve has been shrunk by the fact that I ordered an e-cig we can't discuss here which is way back ordered. Been waiting a frustrating 2 weeks for it and after about a week my impatience and my countless hours of research on the ECF took over. Ordered my SD from Trog and it was here in 5 days from the UK, not TW. The ordered a 510 Yeti with Manual switch this past Saturday and It shipped out today. I should have it by Wed. Which means according to the ECF PV poll, I now hold two of the most popular PV's according to the forum and I have it all to thank on that other e-cig company that couldn't get their act together. Thankfully they have a 30 day return which if it doesn't dazzle even for novelty, I will return.

I've got all my spare parts and juice coming in waves from all over to set me up pretty well with my SD and Yeti. Loving Vaping....

Milo:rolleyes:
 

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I have found that no mater the nicotine level if I add a bit of menthol, throat hit every-time. Someone mentioned in another thread that throat hit may have to do more with PH level of the juice.

I also do not like the burning type of throat hit (that seems to be there with straight 36mg liquid) if that is what everyone is going for with the higher nicotine, but rather just the quick throat contraction that I get when I add a bit of menthol to any flavor or nicotine content juice albeit I haven't really tried to get this menthol type of throat hit with zero nicotine or even anything less than 18mg.

There is another thread that discuss what a throat hit is and generally there are these two types discussed: burning scratchy feeling vs. more of a quick muscle contraction in the throat. Too much nicotine equals this burning type of throat hit for me that I do not like and a little menthol gives me that quick contraction type of throat hit. It is possibble that I have been adding the menthol to my mix of 18mg to 36mg and the 36mg is giving me the throat hit while the menthol is preventing the scratchy feeling via it's cooling sensation, but I really think it has more to do with the flavors and/or possibly PH level?

Too much voltage seems to give you a burnt taste even with the 5v from a USB. I get throat hit with my DSE 901's no problem when the juice is right and has a little menthol in it...
 
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Milo, we are talking about the carts, not the atomizer. The 510 carts will fit on a 901 atomizer and hold a little more liquid.

And the same as yvilla, the SD gives consistent, non-burning/scratchy throat hit but the contration kind of hit. It's just that feeling that you know you are vaping and not just sucking in air.
 

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Would it be a fair to say the Screwdriver is more about battery life and vapor production (because of the manual switch) than throat hit?

battery life??
vapor production??
throat hit??

Hum... how would I rate these 3 categories with the SD?
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yes it would. Not sure about battery life though. I get 4-5 hours out of a SD battery.

Mouse - I'm wondering 'bout those batts you have??

I bought some on ebay that are doing really really well for me. The batts come in a nice carrying case.

4x 3.6V 1000mAh Rechargeable CR123A Batteries & Charger - eBay (item 250382409231 end time Jun-30-09 01:06:29 PDT)
 

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Personally, I don't buy that. If by newer mods = improvement you mean higher voltage = improvement - I'm not convinced.
How about protective circuit boards, like found in the Janty Stick and Prodigy but absent from the Screwdriver?

How about ergonomically correct designs because the products were actually designed and manufactured for the specific purpose of making a PV instead of hacked together from an existing product that was intended to be used a completely different way?

Are those improvements you would be willing to buy?

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How about protective circuit boards, like found in the Janty Stick and Prodigy but absent from the Screwdriver?

I see no need. The charger has the protection from overcharge. The vapor will drop off long before over discharge. Some common sense and normal care is all I need. IE, I don't put my batteries in a pocket with metal objects. Which you shouldn't do with protected batteries either!

How about ergonomically correct designs because the products were actually designed and manufactured for the specific purpose of making a PV instead of hacked together from an existing product that was intended to be used a completely different way?

Are those improvements you would be willing to buy?

:lol: Ergonomic? You've got to be kidding! If you're not, haven't you seen how big the Prodigy is compared to the SD? Or how big and ugly the GG? And how unshapely they are? And the JS is, well, a stick (actually, a box mod).

The SD is bar none the smallest and most ergonomic manual switch/powerful battery mod available to date. It fits the palm of the hand perfectly.
 

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I see no need. The charger has the protection from overcharge. The vapor will drop off long before over discharge. Some common sense and normal care is all I need. IE, I don't put my batteries in a pocket with metal objects. Which you shouldn't do with protected batteries either!



:lol: Ergonomic? You've got to be kidding! If you're not, haven't you seen how big the Prodigy is compared to the SD? Or how big and ugly the GG? And how unshapely they are? And the JS is, well, a stick (actually, a box mod).

The SD is bar none the smallest and most ergonomic manual switch/powerful battery mod available to date. It fits the palm of the hand perfectly.
Sorry I thought reality might be something you would buy into. I guess not.

Enjoy the hacked up flashlight, i will stick with the quality and safe PV's that were actually designed to be PV's.

DW
 
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