As opposed to a wheel to adjust it. LOL sure it is pretty easy but when compared. No.
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As opposed to a wheel to adjust it. LOL sure it is pretty easy but when compared. No.
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Wheel is so easy to adjust, it will do it by itself when you stick it in your pocket. Wifey did it all the time sticking it in her purse. There is a reason the provari is set up the way it is.
I am not going to convert your opinion of the Darwin but just because you don't like it doesn't make it "hype".
Like I said earlier if I had to pick one it would not be a ProVari. You can keep your button presses. I'll go with the square box that lasts all day. You can put your spare battery in your wife's purse.
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Like I said earlier if I had to pick one it would not be a ProVari. You can keep your button presses. I'll go with the square box that lasts all day. You can put your spare battery in your wife's purse.
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Check my album, out of the $2000 dollars worth of mods I have in that collection, I use my Reo Mini 99% of the time 8)
If there was any converting to do, would be to it .
If there was any converting to do, would be to it .
I fly RC helicopters. This whole "hobby" seems like chump change in comparison I have blades that cost more than any mod out there. But like helicopters different strokes for different folks.
I actually am going to get a mod (Eclipse EQ) that has a worse menu system than the Provari My thought process being once I set a voltage it will stay that way for quite a few ml of juice. If it does not work for me I will dump it. SOMEONE will like it.
I actually am going to get a mod (Eclipse EQ) that has a worse menu system than the Provari My thought process being once I set a voltage it will stay that way for quite a few ml of juice. If it does not work for me I will dump it. SOMEONE will like it.
I have no experience with the Darwin or Provari. But I have gone through a bunch of different models from 510, ego, ego tanks, bloog/volt. Then I got my Reo mini and no looking back. I like it for the convenience and honestly it is not too big, fits in my hands perfectly. I do not have to refill carts, tanks or cartos at all anymore. I just fill a bottle and bring a spare battery and it is enough to get me through the day. I am now thinking of getting a mini woodville this week or next week when they come out.
I choose the grand over the mini because of the various voltage options with different battery combinations. I read today that you can run the mini at 6 volts so I think I may have to grab one! Those mini woodvilles sure are pretty too, lol. I am a sucker for shiny stuff though, and I don't think a wood mod would handle my abuse, I would be too afraid to use it. I just don't see how a dial in VV mod would be a huge difference. On the grand you can do 3.7, 4.8, 5.0, 6.0, 7.4 (if I remember correctly, lol). Do people really need to dial in to a tenth of a volt to get satisfaction out of their PV? With the right combination or atty/battery, I really don't feel like I am missing out on anything. I hear most people with VV mods say that they dial it into one number are rarely change it. I know every juice has a sweet spot, but if you are the kind of person that vapes only a couple flavors throughout the day, I don't see the point.
The advantage to the the VV mods imho is that the battery stays at a more consistant voltage. Where something like a reo will slowly drop the voltage as the battery depletes. I used to own a Ali'i and it was a great vape very consistant until the last few minutes of battery life. My problem was I was too nervous to carry it around and babied it. With a reo grand I am not afraid to abuse it. I do find I change the battery well before it depletes though the IMR batteries do make it a more consistant hit.
Some VV mods drop in voltage as you near the end of the battery charge. I believe these are called "unregulated" VV mods. Regulated voltage means it will stay the same until it's time to recharge.
I think the unregulated VV mods just have a potentiometer, whereas the regulated kind have a bit more to them.
I think the unregulated VV mods just have a potentiometer, whereas the regulated kind have a bit more to them.
I am not so fussy with different voltages, I just wanted something solid that would allow me to vape all day without any hassle of filling up or charging batteries. Been using the mini for a solid week now and it really is great. I came from using 650mah batteries or bloog/volt batteries and just got tired with all the extra work.
juice feed pv's... up to now they are all bottom fed and even though they and other pv's can vacuum up the extra juice, i for some reason insist on a particular amount of power to a particular atty with a particular juice... all those factors can vary inherently, and with use.
on top of that, it has to be a particular amount of juice at a time.
- unregulated voltage, variable or not, will drop as the batt discharges.
- attys change resistance, dropping and/or raising with use.
- different juices vary in how they vaporize
- of course too much or too little will affect the vape.
-and for some, one juice (in a 3 to 6ml bottle source) is not enough.. i go through 10 different juices a day.
all the above is why i so love regulated power variable volt pv's, and since they're available, i got rid of my feeder pv's.
imo there's nothing better than a perfectly dripped vape with the optimal power set for a particular atty.
carto's and tanks won't do it for me either.
'been chain vaping for a year and i consider it all a learning curve, with dripping being the most important excercise.
what the industry needs now is better, more durable attys!
on top of that, it has to be a particular amount of juice at a time.
- unregulated voltage, variable or not, will drop as the batt discharges.
- attys change resistance, dropping and/or raising with use.
- different juices vary in how they vaporize
- of course too much or too little will affect the vape.
-and for some, one juice (in a 3 to 6ml bottle source) is not enough.. i go through 10 different juices a day.
all the above is why i so love regulated power variable volt pv's, and since they're available, i got rid of my feeder pv's.
imo there's nothing better than a perfectly dripped vape with the optimal power set for a particular atty.
carto's and tanks won't do it for me either.
'been chain vaping for a year and i consider it all a learning curve, with dripping being the most important excercise.
what the industry needs now is better, more durable attys!
Consistent quality on the attys would be fantastic. Get one iken that lasts 2 months, then the next one dies in an hour. Then you get one that last 2 weeks, then one that lasts a day. Same goes for the ciscos. Been trying to figure out the exact math with attys to see if I am even saving money compared to dual coil cartos. Pretty sure I'm loosing my ... buying all these attys each month for the wife and me. I got 2 eastmall attys that are 4 months old that I vape at 5.5 v with, then I got 15 of them from the same order that were dead in a week. Can't seem to with with expensive attys, nor the cheap. Seem they all are just a dice roll.
Even considered it was the VV mods nuking them as I cranked them up. But the last 3 months have been nothing but the GGTS +UFS, Reos, and Oldgoats: all 3.7 volt mods. Actually think the attys last longer on the provari then on a straight mechanical bat mod, but can't get any real statistics because I swear to God, the next Iken I put on the reo will nuke tonight. Then I'll get ...... and grab a cisco, and watch: it will die in 2 days. This whole random bull is why I still don't recomend any brand atty to anyone, because I got piles of dead ones from every manufacturer out there.
Even considered it was the VV mods nuking them as I cranked them up. But the last 3 months have been nothing but the GGTS +UFS, Reos, and Oldgoats: all 3.7 volt mods. Actually think the attys last longer on the provari then on a straight mechanical bat mod, but can't get any real statistics because I swear to God, the next Iken I put on the reo will nuke tonight. Then I'll get ...... and grab a cisco, and watch: it will die in 2 days. This whole random bull is why I still don't recomend any brand atty to anyone, because I got piles of dead ones from every manufacturer out there.
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It's funny how one person spends all their time stalking any thread with the word "Darwin" in it because they don't like the seller of a PV and they can hide behind their keyboard. All the "so-called" problems listed here like dropping it on concrete, I have done and never had a problem. There are plenty of people dissatified with the problems they have had with the Provari and are selling them in the classified section but you don't see them finding every opportunity to bash the device like you do with the Darwin. Grow up.
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Excellent response, VapourGuy. I never see Darwin owners trying to trash the Provari and simply make up BS about that PV, but there are a couple of (one in particular) who takes every opportunity to trash the Darwin. Quite pathetic.
BTW, I get 21+ hours of almost constant vaping on my Darwin. It's nice never needing to worry about extra batteries. And I think a built in (no extra charge) 2 year warranty speaks for itself.
you must have missed his post on the negatives of the Provari... also, subsequently some of his negative claims about the Darwin were rebutted in this thread.
your comment about plenty people selling provari's (or darwins for that matter) becasue of problems seems far fetched to me.
and i stalk the forum...
your comment about plenty people selling provari's (or darwins for that matter) becasue of problems seems far fetched to me.
and i stalk the forum...
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Stownz looks for every opportunity to jump any mention of the Darwin and trash it. I believe your stalking and his trashing are quite different. And you have never seen me trash the Provari, in fact I think it is a top of the line PV. And I have seen a number of people selling both of them but I never inferred or stated it was because they were bad PV's only that people had some problems with them as is true with most any PV's.
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without getting psychological, I'll remind you that you said quote: There are plenty of people dissatified with the problems they have had with the Provari and are selling them in the classified section...
I don't see that; in fact the few threads that Provari's have had problems, I have seen and posted in, but i havn't seen the "plenty" that have had problems and therefore selling in the classifieds.
Just because there has been a few Vari's in the classifieds , doesn't mean they are having problems either... i mean you don't sell Vari's with problems; they are under warranty.
If i were a Darwin fan, I'd be hot about some of his statements, but i think dealing with the facts is the way to go.
In fact, i've had someone tell me I was wrong about why I thought the Vari was better than the Darwin... I mean he just up and said that what I considered a problem, didn't exist.
I had to rely on other posters verifying my impressions.
If he felt the Darwin was better because of the features that differentiate them, and because certain features were more important to him, then fine.
Some people like the Darwin better because of what it does that the Vari doesn't... what i consider a problem with it has less bearing on it to them.
I guess it's up to you to point out where someone (stownz) is factually wrong... feel free.
I don't see that; in fact the few threads that Provari's have had problems, I have seen and posted in, but i havn't seen the "plenty" that have had problems and therefore selling in the classifieds.
Just because there has been a few Vari's in the classifieds , doesn't mean they are having problems either... i mean you don't sell Vari's with problems; they are under warranty.
If i were a Darwin fan, I'd be hot about some of his statements, but i think dealing with the facts is the way to go.
In fact, i've had someone tell me I was wrong about why I thought the Vari was better than the Darwin... I mean he just up and said that what I considered a problem, didn't exist.
I had to rely on other posters verifying my impressions.
If he felt the Darwin was better because of the features that differentiate them, and because certain features were more important to him, then fine.
Some people like the Darwin better because of what it does that the Vari doesn't... what i consider a problem with it has less bearing on it to them.
I guess it's up to you to point out where someone (stownz) is factually wrong... feel free.
Wow looks like your fight might go on for a while, it might be better to agree to disagree here. Every PV has its good and bad points, as well as people who love or don't love them, it's nice to see people so damn passionate about theirs though
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