Why is it that REOville is the only place I feel absolutely no animosity towards porcupines? Why have my dogs never come home from here with a mouth full of quills? ... They really *ARE* magic porcupines, aren't they!?
If You are THINKING REOS, but don't know what to ask....
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In case any newcomers are wondering....
Rob lives in Maine, and his yard is occasionally visited at night by porcupines. These are rumored to be magic porcupines, who gives the Reos it's mystic qualities. Thus true Reonauts often speak of 'magic porcupine dust'. Apparently, Rob has a sense of humor about it and has a porcupine for an avatar.
Rob lives in Maine, and his yard is occasionally visited at night by porcupines. These are rumored to be magic porcupines, who gives the Reos it's mystic qualities. Thus true Reonauts often speak of 'magic porcupine dust'. Apparently, Rob has a sense of humor about it and has a porcupine for an avatar.
will go look for your thread.......welcome!! come visit us in the Reo lounge too. Great place full of friendly folks! http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/626726-reo-lounge-part-v-212.html#post15538842
I'd like to ask a sensible question but I don't know what a REO is, is it sompin like a OREO
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what he said........plus.......just like Oreos, you need at least one for each hand!!
A Reo is basically dripping from the bottom up. To say it's a very high quality mech mod is an understatement. Built in the US by the man with the porky avi. You need a bottom feed RBA and rather than drip every few vapes, you mash a bottle (squonking) located inside the mod to feed juice up through the bottom of the atty to wet the coils and wick. No need to fool with tanks that break etc, your "tank" is now a 6ml plastic bottle.
I've posted about this before in another unrelated thread outside of Reoville but here goes...
Silly as it may be, the mechanical nature of the REO makes me nervous. I've only used regulated devices so there's a lot less to worry about as far as safety goes. I do use an ohm meter when wrapping coils, make sure my batteries can handle the resistance of my coil (though I keep my coils between .5 and 1.2 ohm and still only use 20A rated batteries) and also check to ensure there isn't a short. Still... the lack of a safety net, so to speak, keeps me from pulling the trigger on a REO or any other mechanical device. I guess I'm concerned about not knowing when the battery voltage has dropped too low and could cause it to vent. Is it obvious when the battery needs to be pulled and replaced? Also, how messy (if at all) are the REOs? What accessories should be purchased? I'd imagine at least one extra spring and a few extra bottles if nothing else.
The start up cost is a bit high as well. Not the REO itself, really, but the fact that you need to grab a bottom fed atty right away as well. And that I know it'll just cause me to buy 50 more almost immediately. And probably a REO Mini to bring to work. Anyway, any comments or suggestions you folks might have would be appreciated.
Silly as it may be, the mechanical nature of the REO makes me nervous. I've only used regulated devices so there's a lot less to worry about as far as safety goes. I do use an ohm meter when wrapping coils, make sure my batteries can handle the resistance of my coil (though I keep my coils between .5 and 1.2 ohm and still only use 20A rated batteries) and also check to ensure there isn't a short. Still... the lack of a safety net, so to speak, keeps me from pulling the trigger on a REO or any other mechanical device. I guess I'm concerned about not knowing when the battery voltage has dropped too low and could cause it to vent. Is it obvious when the battery needs to be pulled and replaced? Also, how messy (if at all) are the REOs? What accessories should be purchased? I'd imagine at least one extra spring and a few extra bottles if nothing else.
The start up cost is a bit high as well. Not the REO itself, really, but the fact that you need to grab a bottom fed atty right away as well. And that I know it'll just cause me to buy 50 more almost immediately. And probably a REO Mini to bring to work. Anyway, any comments or suggestions you folks might have would be appreciated.
Welcome Jh! I was always pretty nervous about mechs......and the day I got my Reo, I was so scared that I would collapse the spring, which btw is a great safety mechanism!! I wasn't worried about safety, I just didn't have an extra spring! lol Honestly after that first night of being almost afraid to touch it for fear I'd break it.....I've not had a moment's concern for safety in using it. I check my builds with the top cap on.......if I switch to a metal DT I'll pull it off and check it again just to make sure. lol that's overkill but I do this because I've had so many other things to get I still haven't gotten an extra spring (don't shoot me K, you know who you are) lol I trust if I do have a short the spring will collapse. It is made so well and it really amazed me that it just took all the "mech fear" out of me. I think that is also in part to the wonderful support community of all the reonauts. I'm not the only night owl here, and can usually get an answer to anything in minutes.
As to spending $$ well.......yeah you'll wanna do that for sure. But that's part of vaping I think. In the long run I think you'll spend less with reos if you can stick to having just a couple. lol Rob at reosmods.com has some great atties for cheap, and you can get some really nice auths and clones modded for BF at catfish atty mods. He can also mod most any RDA you already have to bottom feed. You can also use cartos or 510 drip atties if you want, and some use only those. I don't like em myself, but for some they're great.
Blemished mods are around 120 and although there is a blem somewhere on there, it's most likely not gonna be very noticeable or at all. One thing is for sure, you can't destroy it!! (many have tried) lol I can't imagine you not loving it, but should that happen they really hold their value well for resale.
As to spending $$ well.......yeah you'll wanna do that for sure. But that's part of vaping I think. In the long run I think you'll spend less with reos if you can stick to having just a couple. lol Rob at reosmods.com has some great atties for cheap, and you can get some really nice auths and clones modded for BF at catfish atty mods. He can also mod most any RDA you already have to bottom feed. You can also use cartos or 510 drip atties if you want, and some use only those. I don't like em myself, but for some they're great.
Blemished mods are around 120 and although there is a blem somewhere on there, it's most likely not gonna be very noticeable or at all. One thing is for sure, you can't destroy it!! (many have tried) lol I can't imagine you not loving it, but should that happen they really hold their value well for resale.
Thanks, Deb. I think I'd really enjoy the REO because I'm starting to use my drippers more and more these days but they can be a hassle sometimes. The built in bottle and bottom feeding seem really convenient, especially on the go. I'll have to check out catfish atty mods and see which ones I can buy or get converted. I'm really loving my Derringer right now and I think I remember reading people using those a lot with their REOs.
I agree with you on the money thing. You kind of have to be willing to spend some cash to find your ideal setup. It's taken me awhile to figure out which juices I prefer and attys and all that but I think I'm finally settling in to a groove. That's why I've been thinking more and more about the REOs because I think it would fit with how I like to vape. I just wish that the REOs came in a different green rather than the Kawasaki green. It's not bad but I'd prefer something darker. I've also been ogling the orange and black one, looks pretty nice to me. Thanks again for the comments.
I agree with you on the money thing. You kind of have to be willing to spend some cash to find your ideal setup. It's taken me awhile to figure out which juices I prefer and attys and all that but I think I'm finally settling in to a groove. That's why I've been thinking more and more about the REOs because I think it would fit with how I like to vape. I just wish that the REOs came in a different green rather than the Kawasaki green. It's not bad but I'd prefer something darker. I've also been ogling the orange and black one, looks pretty nice to me. Thanks again for the comments.
I know he used to do a different green, you might want to PM redeyedancer and see if he has any. Occasionally the magic porkies find a mod that hasn't gotten listed on the site. No idea how long ago that was though, cuz I'm pretty new to reoville. Some long time nauts will be waking in a few hours and can chime in. He really doesn't mind getting pm's.
Welcome to Reoville! I'm new here myself, but I love it already
I shorted a Samsung INR18650-25R the day I got my SRX clone (a couple months ago) since I didn't realize to screw the atty tight to the semi-hybrid connector before threading it to the tube (d'oh! noob not paying attention). Not much happened. Granted, I didn't hold the button 30 seconds or anything ridiculous. After realizing the coil wasn't firing, I took the topper off, checked the battery's voltage, and it was 1.-someodd volts. Retired the battery, realized my mistake, haven't shorted anything since. I really suspect most of the terrible short situations happen with batteries with high internal resistance. Eye-ball-o-metric'ing discharge curves and dead short topper to switch resistance, I probably threw 80-ish amps through that battery for all of a half-second. After that, there couldn't have been available energy in the battery to provide much more than 15 amps. Yes, I got lucky. The moral? Use high-drain IMR batteries, and be careful (no dead shorts/resistance below minimum safe) because it is still possible to put an IMR into thermal runaway. Thermal runaway does not mean explosion, but rather that the battery is experiencing a self-sustaining internal chemical reaction which produces lots of heat. Contain that heat (like in an unvented mod) and you have an explosion. AW 18650 IMR are fine, just avoid the 2000 if you're going below something like 0.6 ohms (Yes, I know the amp rating has a bit more room, but leave headroom). For cheaper, the Samsung 25Rs from illumation supply are great.
The Reo line-up is very carefully designed, and the mod itself has almost no way to short (read: you'd have to modify the switch or positive contact to run risk of mod short). Your atty, of course, can be shorted easily, by running wire straight from the positive to negative pole. If you do that, you'll be looking at neighborhood .03 ohms load, i.e. 140 amps from a freshly charged battery, except the spring will burn out hundredths of seconds before the battery catches full load. What if the spring doesn't burn out? Then the battery gets really hot and, within seconds vents, because the battery's resistance produces enough heat to burst its casing. Since there's a huge squonk/vent hole, the outgas will escape and my only suggestion is to leave the room (I hear lithium is bad for you) and thoroughly wash the mod and atty before using again. Since you used an IMR battery, the outgas wasn't flammable at the heats involved in venting. Since the outgas vented, it didn't "explode," sending a topper or whatnot flying. Of course, the battery, juice bottle and tube should be thrown out and replaced.
As far as over-discharge, you likely won't. Even at 0.3 ohms (the lowest I've run with Sony VTC4s), I find dissatisfaction occurs no lower than 3.3 volts. If your vape is not producing much vapor even though it should, isn't warm even though it was, or otherwise seems dissatisfactory, check battery voltage and charge it. If you somehow drop a battery below mfg. rated cutoff (usually 2.5-2.7 volts), consider it retired. Notably, you won't vent a battery by overdischarging it. You will, however, "cement" some of the electron exchange, which will increase the battery's internal resistance a bit. It's actually possible to do the math on what an overdischarged battery's new (lower) max amp rating likely is, but the safe bet is just retiring any battery which has been overdischarged.
Reos are only messy if you oversquonk and juice comes out of the atty's airholes, if there is a poor seal (highly unlikely if all your stuff comes from Rob - the quality and attention to detail are superb), when refilling the bottle (use a napkin under the tube to alleviate), or if, like me, your vapor is stupid dense and you get condensation.
I apologize for novelling you. The stuff I posted is the results of my research when I had very similar questions to yours. If anything I said was unclear, mention and I or someone with better expression skillzs will be happy to clarify.
And yes, I'm looking for RA (Reoholics Anonymous) now.. got my first Reo Saturday, two more and two more doors, two more atties coming this week. I know I've got a problem, and that problem is no Woodvil & Resin!
So far as spare parts, I got an extra spring for just-in-case, a delrin button cover (unnecesary, but I use it so unlocking is easier), and an extra spare bottle (not sure yet if tank crackers affect the bottle/tube).
Thanks to you too, d4gger. No worries about the long post, its awesome info and helps set my mind at ease. Should I get the bottle kit when I order or just the bottles on their own?
This is an excellent question. I've often wondered, since a tube is 2.00 and a bottle is .65 what's in the kit to make it 4.00 Gotta wait til some folks wake up probably to get an answer to this one.
Exactly why I was curious about it.
When you switch bottles (read: flavors) do you need to switch tubes as well?
REO girl here who had many of the same concerns pre-REO #1 (REO #3 should be here tomorrow and PINK!) but everyone here was very very patient with me and helped me work through it. I'm a flavor chaser so the REO is ideal for me, I'm getting to be quite the pro at building coils and tinker a bit. I was definitely hard on my first 2 REOs but Rob has made some improvements and assures me I will no longer be breaking that tiny little pin so off #1 and #2 go back to Maine.
I happen to love the RM2 and have 2, fun to play with, easy to build and you need very little wick with tons and tons of flavor and vapor.
My other advice? Watch sxmxdrifter's vids on YouTube, he has a whole series of well done, practical and well thought out videos specific to REOs.
If I can do this just about anyone can!
I happen to love the RM2 and have 2, fun to play with, easy to build and you need very little wick with tons and tons of flavor and vapor.
My other advice? Watch sxmxdrifter's vids on YouTube, he has a whole series of well done, practical and well thought out videos specific to REOs.
If I can do this just about anyone can!
I don't. Usually just a few vapes, and the new flavor comes through. Unless you are using a juice that will totally take over a device.
Okay so no real need to order an extra it would just be if I want more flavor options. Thanks!
this is true, but where else can ya get a 65 cent "tank" for that reason alone ya need 10 or so of em
Correct. I always order an extra for options. I have a problem, I have to have several flavors in rotation at the same time. I rarely vape anything all day (even if I love them enough to), I like to mix it up.
The newest Reos come with an extra bottle. Having four Reos in less than six months, I have eight bottles. I keep the spares full of juice for quick change. As to tank cracker juices, I have seen no bottle deterioration but do notice the cap o-ring seems to swell. Would not hurt to to get more of them.
Always have one Reo full with fresh battery for my out and about device.
Always have one Reo full with fresh battery for my out and about device.
As a trucker, I spend a lot of time away from my vaping supplies. I carry two Grands on the truck, one Bakery flavor and one NET. When they are empty, I remove the door, battery, RM2, and juice bottle. Then I wash everything (except the battery), remove the wick, dry burn or replace coil, rewick, fill bottle with fresh e-liquid and add fresh battery. This way I setup for another day of great vaping.
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