if you want to use your mesh style atomizer without wires

[LongDraw]

Subscribed. Interested to see how this works in a genesis and an ody.

Think here soon need to try mesh in the ody. I have 2 spare rebuildables coming which will allow me to experiment a little more. Think it will be hard though with the v2 metal channel side.

Edit: Nevermind the channel part, found a good thread and see that mesh would not be in the channels. Now just gotta decide if it is worth trying.

 

[imeothanasis]

it depends on how many wraps around silica you will do River. I suggest you to stop when you see that silica is covered. You will get around 0,8 ohms that way. They are good ohms for 3,7 volt battery because higher ohms (with a so fat wire that mesh is) will not give you the results you want

What kind of ohms would you get doing this with a mesh wrapped silica coil in Ody? I think I've got a project for tonight

 

[imeothanasis]

Not hard, maybe easier Long. The one side of mesh will touch the metal channel and thats good for the setup we are talking about

Subscribed. Interested to see how this works in a genesis and an ody.

Think here soon need to try mesh in the ody. I have 2 spare rebuildables coming which will allow me to experiment a little more. Think it will be hard though with the v2 metal channel side.

 

[RiverNut]

I can't wait to try this! The mesh should last longer than wire in terms of gunk buildup and rising resistance with useage. And the vapor has got to be crazy with all of that surface area heating up the liquid. Glad I didn't throw away all of my mesh

 

[Idaholandho]

Great idea. Trying in a few minutes. Thank you.

 

[LongDraw]

Have a ton of mesh coming that I ordered in a coop awhile back so would be nice to have another way to use it. Took me about a week but really do like the silica, and set up is quite fast. Sure I'll get bored one of these days again and give it a go.

Not hard, maybe easier Long. The one side of mesh will touch the metal channel and thats good for the setup we are talking about

 

[Bishopheals]

IMEO OMG man this works beautifully. I just finished recording the video I'm going to upload the video now.

 

[imeothanasis]

ahahaha, great bish, I want to see it!

 

[Bishopheals]

video should be up in 15 minutes

 

[Bishopheals]

Its up

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...y-no-resistance-wires-needed.html#post8396762

 

[somopoppy]

Love the confidence Bish.

 

[Bishopheals]

If you seen my previous videos of the things I do with Imeo's products vaping from 25 to 100 watts I know I can trust his product.

 

[mrgoodwrench2u]

Excellent video Bish ! Great idea Imeo !

 

[imeothanasis]

yes, its a great idea Mr. For years all people were searching how to not use wires on atomizers. its here now

 

[Moueix]

Seriously, Gentlemen? You're industry leaders. Where exactly are you leading the industry when a trusted retailer, for a trusted supplier, builds an experimental setup and then puts it on an unprotected mod and "Trusts the GG" without even checking for shorts or minimum ohms?

Here is where it leads, this post from a member who has been here a month and built a "double coil with tripple twisted 30 gauge kanthal in 3 loops on each wick which is made of 4 strands of 3mm silica" atty, and his thread is titled ".002 ohms and loving it" as he admits he doesn't even KNOW how to use his multimeter. But why bother? Trust the mechanical! The outrageously ridiculous thread is here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/383132-002-ohms-loving.html

 

[imeothanasis]

But GG is protected by its fuse my friend. And its much better than electronic fuses. Also its the only mod with mechanical protection. As for the ohms, they come about 0,7 with this setup. Where did you see the similarity with the thread you post about the 0,002 ohms? And at 0,7 ohms at 3,7 volts the current is 5,28 so I cant see any short here. Maybe you didnt read the whole thread?

 

[Moueix]

But GG is protected by its fuse my friend. And its much better than electronic fuses. Also its the only mod with mechanical protection. As for the ohms, they come about 0,7 with this setup. Where did you see the similarity with the thread you post about the 0,002 ohms? And at 0,7 ohms at 3,7 volts the current is 5,28 so I cant see any short here. Maybe you didnt read the whole thread?

I learn something new every day. I did not know the GG was a mechanically fused device. So what was there to trust, then? That the fuse might not work?

The point of the ".002 ohm and loving it" thread, is that there are very inexperienced new vapers as well as veterans here. Where are the warnings in these videos about having a fuse? Testing the ohms BEFORE firing the mechanism? How does THAT guy know that the GG has a mechanical fuse and that his "natural" does NOT? He thinks it is a clone, and it's just a cheap aesthetic copy.

When mechanical mods and rebuildable atomizers were $200+ each, it was veterans using them. Instructional videos and cheap Chinese knockoffs are putting these devices into the hands of very inexperienced beginners, and they have no idea of battery safety, electronics knowledge, or safe practices and we aren't helping them as much as we should when we do what looks INTENTIONALLY like wreckless things on videos.

 

[Bishopheals]

I learn something new every day. I did not know the GG was a mechanically fused device. So what was there to trust, then? That the fuse might not work?

The point of the ".002 ohm and loving it" thread, is that there are very inexperienced new vapers as well as veterans here. Where are the warnings in these videos about having a fuse? Testing the ohms BEFORE firing the mechanism? How does THAT guy know that the GG has a mechanical fuse and that his "natural" does NOT? He thinks it is a clone, and it's just a cheap aesthetic copy.

When mechanical mods and rebuild able atomizers were $200+ each, it was veterans using them. Instructional videos and cheap Chinese knockoffs are putting these devices into the hands of very inexperienced beginners, and they have no idea of battery safety, electronics knowledge, or safe practices and we aren't helping them as much as we should when we do what looks INTENTIONALLY like wreckless things on videos.

I hear you, and I can assure here in the GG family we look out for people and provide them good advice. Some of us enjoy different kinds of vapes and we do our best to compensate that by helping anyone out. Its very unfortunate when people take it upon them selves to do things without having the proper vaping gear, Right Batteries, Multi Meter, devices etc.

As for me I love taking the time in my videos listing what batteries I use and I volunteer to help anyone through Skype and OOVOO in creating there coils the right way and its safe.

As for this individual vaping so he claims at .2 ohms were looking at if his using a 18650 his already playing with fire and that battery will pop.


At 3.7 volts .2 ohms your looking at a 18.5 amps with 68.45 watts. This 18650 battery is extremely stressed and if it would to Spike a current and go over 20 amps it will explode inside and release gas and materials. Some times it can spike even at 10-15 amps of usage. This is why i dont go below a certain marker. This is another reason as to why the quality of battery is important.

Its unfortunate how one bad apple can jeopardize someones health.

 

[Moueix]

I hear you, and I can assure here in the GG family we look out for people and provide them good advice. Some of us enjoy different kinds of vapes and we do our best to compensate that by helping anyone out. Its very unfortunate when people take it upon them selves to do things without having the proper vaping gear, Right Batteries, Multi Meter, devices etc.

As for me I love taking the time in my videos listing what batteries I use and I volunteer to help anyone through Skype and OOVOO in creating there coils the right way and its safe.

As for this individual vaping so he claims at .2 ohms were looking at if his using a 18650 his already playing with fire and that battery will pop.
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At 3.7 volts .2 ohms your looking at a 18.5 amps with 68.45 watts. This 18650 battery is extremely stressed and if it would to Spike a current and go over 20 amps it will explode inside and release gas and materials. Some times it can spike even at 10-15 amps of usage. This is why i dont go below a certain marker. This is another reason as to why the quality of battery is important.

Its unfortunate how one bad apple can jeopardize someones health.

Thanks Bishopheals, for understanding my concerns. I spend a lot of my time and some of my money helping to prevent the FDA from regulating this industry. They want to sell the idea that the technological pace of innovation without oversight is out of control and that the industry needs their oversight. Well, we know how badly THAT could bog down innovation.

Unfortunately, when I see newbies with $35 mechanical devices stuffed with stacked 18350's under $24 RBA's because it looks like the $500 rigs that the vets are using, and they don't know the first things about battery safety or ohm's law, I'm almost inclined to agree with them myself. It will only take one tragic incident in a public venue to make the papers, and we'll all be sucking on Blu's.

Edit: Oh, and I'm the customer swapping the COV gen 2's for AGA-T2's that inquired about getting a penelope. Just so you know I'm a paying customer of COV. I agree that your CS is TOP drawer. I'd still like that pennie... ...

 

[Bishopheals]

Moueix I'm still reading the actual thread you posted of that individual in regards to .2 ohms. So far I doubt this can be possible because the battery does spike. Without him providing proof and pictures multi meter etc. Its kind of hard to swallow his claim. And to be frank its really impossible. For instance 18490 battery that would of exploded with his claim. As to dual stack them that will make it 7.4 volts not 3.7 volts. That would increase the wattages even more resulting to a pop coil. If it’s a single battery 18490 will be in danger because anything above 4 amps the battery will over heats and it will pop and blow with that stress of 18amps. For a 18650 you can take it higher amps as long as if it’s a high drain high quality battery. The cells in Aw Imr and Mnke are better to handle such demands and stress if you going to use 3-7 amps.

I do design my own coils that a lot of people have seen and many had tried I do use Dual Highlander coil .7 ohms at 4.2 volts. Using no minimum a 18650 Aw IMR. That grants me



4.2 volts (Fully Charged) .7 Ohms 6 amps and 25.2 watts. This is perfectly safe on high drain quality batteries. If bad quality batteries are used it can spike and go over the amps and cause battery to pop and ooze will come out etc or coil can misfire and pop as well.

Imeo’s GG devices is made of the highest quality and his PV GGTS has been tested so in the event a user should use a low end battery it will conceal the pop so nothing happens to the user. As for damage it would be con sealed inside the GGTS.

The videos I list on youtube are coil that can be made safely and as long the right batteries are used the user is safe from harm. I provide users an instructional way and how they can get in contact with me that I help them through Skype and OOVOO web cam chat.

I am all for innovations, inspirations, and giving back the willingness to grow but always in a safe setting. If you should have any questions feel free to reach out I think everything that Casaa is doing is great. We got to meet a couple folks over on Vapetv and more are welcome to come.