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The after market tapes for the Brother QL-700 are under $10 with lots of them around $5. The brand I bought was Onirii from Amazon.
Oh... you are the "bad" influence my Mother warned me about!:lol:
On my handheld Brother I went through the roll that was included in the box in no time, but I'm still working off the first roll of aftermarket tape that I ordered from Amazon. It worked fine in the UC with hot water and produces clear and sharp images that don't fade or smear
Sounds similar to the label tape my Casio uses. Is the aftermarket Onirii tape you purchased for the QL-700 the same/similar in performance? (As far as you can tell; I realize that you have probably not had an opportunity to put it through its paces yet. :D)

I appreciate all the information! I look forward to hear your, and @OlderNDirt's, experiences and opinions as you have a chance to get to use and learn the printer's performance. Thank you!:thumbs:
 
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I would be very interested in how that works out for you. Keep us updated when you get it.

I unpacked it and printed my first labels last night. The tape is waterproof and smear proof, even when wet. I ran water on labels I printed using the two tape types included in the box. after about 15 seconds under the spigot they didn't smear when I rubbed hard with my finger and the label didn't appear any different after the water bath. Apparently, they absorbed no water.

Here's the photo. On the left is a label I printed from the Brother handheld printer I've been using. On the right is the label from the new Brother QL-700.

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Black and white clip art prints well, also. You can see the edge of a beaker on the left side. I had to turn it to show the print and the beaker got cut off.

Now, to try some color clip art and see how it converts to B&W.

I like the print speed. When I clicked Print it started up, printed the label, cut it, and kicked it out in about 2 seconds. I'm using the standard label roll, 1.1" tall and 3.5" wide. The continuous mailing label roll that was also included is 2.4" x 3.5". The taller label covers up too much of the bottle for me and wraps all the way around the bottle. I like to be able to see the juice color without having to flip it upside down.
 
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I unpacked it and printed my first labels last night. The tape is waterproof and smear proof, even when wet. I ran water on labels I printed using the two tape types included in the box. after about 15 seconds under the spigot they didn't smear when I rubbed hard with my finger and the label didn't appear any different after the water bath. Apparently, they absorbed no water.

Here's the photo. On the left is a label I printed from the Brother handheld printer I've been using. On the right is the label from the new Brother QL-700.

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That looks really nice! Can't wait as I placed my order Sunday along with the file folder labels, just in case. I take it those are 30ml bottles and if needed, print could be made smaller for more info if wanted. Now I just have to come up with a catchy name for my Ejuice "brand", even though I only mix for myself.

Best part, I am charging this cost to my office supplies budget instead of the vape budget! :sneaky:
 
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That looks really nice! Can't wait as I placed my order Sunday along with the file folder labels, just in case. I take it those are 30ml bottles and if needed, print could be made smaller for more info if wanted. Now I just have to come up with a catchy name for my Ejuice "brand", even though I only mix for myself.

Best part, I am charging this cost to my office supplies budget instead of the vape budget! :sneaky:

It took very little time to unbox it, load the labels, download and install the latest Ptouch Editor 5.1 software on my laptop, and learn how to use it. Loading labels is easy. You lift the top cover, drop in the roll with the legs down into the slots, and run the free end of the roll through a slot. It aligns the label start edge automatically using the alignment marks on the edge of the roll.

There's a 2 row set of buttons in the printer under the right leg of the tape cart. The tape cartridge has holes on the bottom of the right leg that presses a combination of buttons to activate switches or not to let the printer identify the tape cartridge that's installed. So, when you change tape types, the printer re-configures itself to print correctly on the label.

The editor software is equally as easy. It's a little like Windows Paint. You select the parameters on the left column and type directly into the label. You can add clip art from the program and add your own to what's already there.

OlderThanDirt Wrote: Best part, I am charging this cost to my office supplies budget instead of the vape budget!

I'll bet that you use the printer more for your office than for DIY. It can print mailing labels and file folder labels, as well as return address labels. You'll find a lot of uses for it. Even the labels that come with it are durable and sturdy. I found them to be water proof as I wrote up topic. I couldn't tell any difference at all after I ran them under water, rubbed them hard while the water was running, and again after I dried them off.

These are obviously laminated labels with a clear coat plastic on the image side. The printer heat obviously penetrates through the plastic coating and prints the text on the second layer. When it comes out the printed label feels like a plastic coat all over and you can't feel the print itself, just the plasticized label surface.
 
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I take it those are 30ml bottles and if needed, print could be made smaller for more info if wanted. Now I just have to come up with a catchy name for my Ejuice "brand", even though I only mix for myself.

Best part, I am charging this cost to my office supplies budget instead of the vape budget! :sneaky:

Those are 60ml bottles that I fill with 50ml to allow for shaking space. And yes, you could print much more text on the label, depending on your font choices in the editor. If you don't mind covering up more of the bottle, the mailing labels are bigger than the address labels and would allow much more text.

There are lists of tape sizes to choose from. Any DK label works from what I understand. Amazon has a wide choice of aftermarket labels that get good reviews for half the price.

Brother Ptouch® QL700 Labels – PtouchDirect.com
 
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Sounds similar to the label tape my Casio uses. Is the aftermarket Onirii tape you purchased for the QL-700 the same/similar in performance? (As far as you can tell; I realize that you have probably not had an opportunity to put it through its paces yet. :D)

The Onirii labels I bought were for the smaller Brother handheld printer. The ones for the Brother QL-700 seem to be the same material, only larger and available in many more sizes.

I dunked the bottles with the smaller labels in the ultrasonic cleaner with 135 to 140 degree water for 6 or 8 cycles of 8 minutes each. They stayed on tightly and didn't smudge. I expect the QL-700 labels to perform as well in hot water. They seem to be the same material with the clear plastic overlay on both sides. I haven't had any of either of the two types of labels to de-laminate.
 
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I have some similar disposable pipettes around here somewhere, but as I remember they were slow to fill and I ended up going back to droppers. Good ones would be nice to have. Do those work well with 50/50 juice? If they do they'd be fine for me at 70pg/30vg. I've threatened to mix up some 50/50 for a test bottle. I've always vaped somewhere between 90pg and 70pg, sometimes down to 60pg when a pre-mix only came in that mix.

ETA: I already had items in my Amazon cart. I added a pack of those pipettes.
 
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Well I decided to just wash out my pipettes and they still smell like flavorings. Is that odor/flavor going to transfer to my new batch of juice I make?
Many of the 270+ flavors I have (more than half) are in small (sample) 8mL glass vials and have too narrow an opening for glass eye droppers; so they necessitate the use of pipettes (disposable in my case: though I have used the long glass ones with a mechanical pump in the past). I am too cheap, and don't like to toss any more plastic into the landfill than I have to, so I try to wash and re-use them as much as possible.

For me; I have found that immediate rinsing in hot water right after use works best to extend their longevity. To make this as easy as possible, I have a (roughly) 1 quart thermos that I fill with very hot water (180-190F (?)) before each mixing session, set the cap on top without threading it (for convenience but still retain heat), and set it next to where I sit to mix. Keeping it loosely capped retains the heat quite nicely even if I am mixing for an hour or more. The larger volume of the thermos (compared to say a coffee cup) offers plenty of dilution to whatever flavors may be introduced into the water so I am not having to change the rinse water mid session.

Then, as I use a pipette, I simply lift the cap, give it 3 or 4 good squeezes in the hot water, give it a couple of extra squeezes out of the water to get as much water out as possible, shake it like an old-school mercury thermometer a couple of times with one or two more squeezes, and drop it back into the ready-to-use cup with the others. All good.

On the rare occasion I have a stubborn flavor concentrate (TFA's Banana-Ripe comes to mind), and I still have a residual odor, I will do a second rinse in pure-grain alcohol (AKA: ethyl alcohol). You can use any high proof neutral spirit like vodka or light/white rum too... the higher the proof the better... and the cheaper the better; name brands do nothing for you here. I have yet to have a concentrate able to cling after that combination;). I have some "disposables" that are at least a year old now with no odor and no residue. I generally don't toss them until the bulb cracks/splits nowadays.

Safety Note: I only use potable (drinkable) alcohol for this. Never isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, denatured alcohol, or any other alcohol that is not meant for human consumption.

Another option I have read of people doing is to dedicate a pipette to each flavor and then simply rubber-band the pipette to the outside of the bottle when not in use for easy association. Then they don't have to be concerned with cross flavor transference.
 

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I ordered a pack of those pipettes from the link. I like the idea of washing them out and using them for a day on a particular juice. I'll vape multiple flavors in a day, but frequently I add a different, but similar juice to what's still in the tank. Certain tobacco flavors complement each other anyway. On of my favorites is HS #5 added to a tank that was just vaped with HS Desert Ship. Reusing with another flavor won't phase me. I like a touch of Watermelon added to just about any tobacco flavor.
 
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Many of the 270+ flavors I have (more than half) are in small (sample) 8mL glass vials and have too narrow an opening for glass eye droppers; so they necessitate the use of pipettes (disposable in my case: though I have used the long glass ones with a mechanical pump in the past). I am too cheap, and don't like to toss any more plastic into the landfill than I have to, so I try to wash and re-use them as much as possible.

For me; I have found that immediate rinsing in hot water right after use works best to extend their longevity. To make this as easy as possible, I have a (roughly) 1 quart thermos that I fill with very hot water (180-190F (?)) before each mixing session, set the cap on top without threading it (for convenience but still retain heat), and set it next to where I sit to mix. Keeping it loosely capped retains the heat quite nicely even if I am mixing for an hour or more. The larger volume of the thermos (compared to say a coffee cup) offers plenty of dilution to whatever flavors may be introduced into the water so I am not having to change the rinse water mid session.

Then, as I use a pipette, I simply lift the cap, give it 3 or 4 good squeezes in the hot water, give it a couple of extra squeezes out of the water to get as much water out as possible, shake it like an old-school mercury thermometer a couple of times with one or two more squeezes, and drop it back into the ready-to-use cup with the others. All good.

On the rare occasion I have a stubborn flavor concentrate (TFA's Banana-Ripe comes to mind), and I still have a residual odor, I will do a second rinse in pure-grain alcohol (AKA: ethyl alcohol). You can use any high proof neutral spirit like vodka or light/white rum too... the higher the proof the better... and the cheaper the better; name brands do nothing for you here. I have yet to have a concentrate able to cling after that combination;). I have some "disposables" that are at least a year old now with no odor and no residue. I generally don't toss them until the bulb cracks/splits nowadays.

Safety Note: I only use potable (drinkable) alcohol for this. Never isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, denatured alcohol, or any other alcohol that is not meant for human consumption.

Another option I have read of people doing is to dedicate a pipette to each flavor and then simply rubber-band the pipette to the outside of the bottle when not in use for easy association. Then they don't have to be concerned with cross flavor transference.
Thanks for the ideas.
 
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@DaveP :

My QL-700 came in this morning. Seems a lot larger then it looked in the videos I watched. Easy set up except did not get a desktop icon. Says if the advanced P-Editor is installed it will add an icon. Wondering if you installed it and if it adds much more then linking to Office documents. The instructions are a bit confusing for adding the software.

I did manage to print my first label using the continuous 2.4" tape, printing width wise and auto cut-off depending on what/how much needs to print. With smaller font and fewer lines, should be able to come up with a very narrow 2.4" wide label. Looks to me like that will work very well for many applications.

Really liking it so far! Thanks for steering me on to this!
 

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@DaveP :

My QL-700 came in this morning. Seems a lot larger then it looked in the videos I watched. Easy set up except did not get a desktop icon. Says if the advanced P-Editor is installed it will add an icon. Wondering if you installed it and if it adds much more then linking to Office documents. The instructions are a bit confusing for adding the software.

I did manage to print my first label using the continuous 2.4" tape, printing width wise and auto cut-off depending on what/how much needs to print. With smaller font and fewer lines, should be able to come up with a very narrow 2.4" wide label. Looks to me like that will work very well for many applications.

Really liking it so far! Thanks for steering me on to this!

I installed the Ptouch Editor 5.1 package and it adds a label editor that allows you to create labels and add graphics and borders easily. I'm not sure it it's the advanced version. I'm about to leave for band practice now, but I'll check in the AM and see what's there to find out. It does add an icon for launching the label editor. It's a must if we are talking about the same package.
 

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You guys keep tempting me with that label maker. I vow not to buy it. But then again. I lie and I'm naughty. Lol

I better entice you a bit. My third label and haven't even loaded the software yet. 30ml bottle:
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EDIT: Sorry for the bad focus! They don't call me Twitch for nothin'. :D
 
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