IPV 35w and 50w box mods

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Pricing direct from P4U Corp Headquarters. They also mentioned there are currently processing over 26,000 units and production lead time is 20-30 days on new orders , With the exception that 1000+ maybe sooner at special request to CEO. After the 20th there should be no more issues with stock. I wanted to make an order but its such a hassle. Also that was a special shipping price for a 1000 unit order it was more then double on lesser units

Sounds pretty simple to me but do what many others do , buy a bunch cheap and turn around and sell them on E Bay for considerably more lol. Thats what was happening and still is happening with the Cana mods .
 

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I told them I am abotu to make a very large,. order price ranges between 10-1000 please, got it back in 2 hours with a few other questions I had answered, also emailed several reps and all came right back lol


Yeah thats how i approached it at first as well , i said prices please lol. Then i changed my name and re inquired and this time i got the same price ranges but said that won't work for my business. I said for it to be worth it on my end i need a cheaper per unit price as i already did all the math .

This went on for days with two separate people and it took ignoring their repeated emails to me for a few days as well , when they think your going to drop out for good and they are going to potentially lose a big time client they come back and re negotiate .

It's a lot of work just to get information though . If i had the $$ i would consider buying a bunch for sure but since so many have already figured out that buying and re selling is a good way to make $$ it's a big time risk as well.
 
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Yeah thats how i approached it at first as well , i said prices please lol. Then i changed my name and re inquired and this time i got the same price ranges but said that won't work for my business. I said for it to be worth it on my end i need a cheaper per unit price as i already did all the math .

This went on for days with two separate people and it took ignoring their repeated emails to me for a few days as well , when they think your going to drop out for good and they are going to potentially lose a big time client they come back and re negotiate .

It's a lot of work just to get information though . If i had the $$ i would consider buying a bunch for sure but since so many have already figured out that buying and re selling is a good way to make $$ it's a big time risk as well.

Why is it a risk? Seriously considering it lol
 

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On another note can you provide with the source of your information about many vendors only ordering 50-100 units , with thousands of pre orders what vendors set them selves up for failure by ordering 50-100 units .

Source: Logic.


I doubt many B&M are ordering 1000 of these to sit in the back of their stores. I would also doubt that many internet vendors, unless they had pre-orders, are ordering 1000 at a time either. Not many vapor businesses have nearly $70,000 sitting around to buy supplies.


Additionally, I also doubt that many vendors are sending several emails over the course of weeks trying to get P4U to drop the prices by a few dollars, as you supposedly did, so the real cost numbers for 99% of vendors are the ones that Anthony posted (and that I received as well).

I was able to score a Nexus Tablet for $75 a couple of months ago, but I don't go around proclaiming that's the price everyone pays.
 
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Source: Logic.


I doubt many B&M are ordering 1000 of these to sit in the back of their stores. I would also doubt that many internet vendors, unless they had pre-orders, are ordering 1000 at a time either. Not many vapor businesses have nearly $70,000 sitting around to buy supplies.

Surprising some local distributors or offering a 50% payment on order, so u really need 35000 to order then u can presell the rest over your lead time. That's a little more realistic but still a stretch for most businesses
 

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Sure, but distributors and large internet vendors are what percentage of the orders being placed (not in terms of number of units, but in number of orders)? 20%? For every elev8 that places an order, there's probably 10 B&M's placing an order for 25 or 50 devices. Heck, I know of 4 different cooperatives that have placed orders for less than 50 units.
 

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Source: Logic.


I doubt many B&M are ordering 1000 of these to sit in the back of their stores. I would also doubt that many internet vendors, unless they had pre-orders, are ordering 1000 at a time either. Not many vapor businesses have nearly $70,000 sitting around to buy supplies.


Additionally, I also doubt that many vendors are sending several emails over the course of weeks trying to get P4U to drop the prices by a few dollars, as you supposedly did, so the real cost numbers for 99% of vendors are the ones that Anthony posted (and that I received as well).

I was able to score a Nexus Tablet for $75 a couple of months ago, but I don't go around proclaiming that's the price everyone pays.

You need to do better than guess , you said you think most vendors are buying 50 to 100 and i said sources please . I think most vendors are buying a lot more than 50-100 , a vendor who is offering these boxes and buys that amount is asking for big trouble .

If your going to respond to somebody at least have the decency to remember exactly what they said .

As an example , i said i was in contact with the vendor over the course of five days , where does this emailing for weeks come from lol , c, mon man .
 

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You need to do better than guess , you said you think most vendors are buying 50 to 100 and i said sources please . .

Since you're obviously not familiar with the term "think", I'll help you out"

Think - have a particular opinion, belief, or idea about someone or something.

Thoughts and opinions do not need sources - which I thought was common knowledge. If you think the majority of vendors are buying more than 100 of these, than there's nothing I can do to help you and you obviously know nothing about business or the particulars involved in running one. B&M's (of which there's many more of than internet businesses) rarely carry more than a few of any single item. They don't have the capitol or the space to carry hundreds of every device their patrons might be interested in. That's logic and business sense. Now, if you're not going to use either of those concepts in your discussions and insist on addressing sentence structure and the plurality of words, which may or may not be germane to the discussion, instead of the concepts behind them, then I'll leave you to your trolling.
 

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I just think it's a little late in the game thats all , if you can get a hold of something thats hot early on then it's worth the risk imo .

Like the IPV3 100 watt box. Some online folks saw what happened with the IPV2 and are jumping a bit quicker this time.
the same is happening with the Segelei 100 watt box mod.

IF I had the cash I would do it.
 

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Since you're obviously not familiar with the term "think", I'll help you out"

Think - have a particular opinion, belief, or idea about someone or something.

Thoughts and opinions do not need sources - which I thought was common knowledge. If you think the majority of vendors are buying more than 100 of these, than there's nothing I can do to help you and you obviously know nothing about business or the particulars involved in running one. B&M's (of which there's many more of than internet businesses) rarely carry more than a few of any single item. They don't have the capitol or the space to carry hundreds of every device their patrons might be interested in. That's logic and business sense. Now, if you're not going to use either of those concepts in your discussions and insist on addressing sentence structure and the plurality of words, which may or may not be germane to the discussion, instead of the concepts behind them, then I'll leave you to your trolling.

First off lose the attitude , your post count or status mean nothing to me and i'm certainly not going to waste my time with somebody who refuses to post accurate statements by others . I said if your going to call me out i would appreciate if you post more in line of what i said .

I will let your other words go because i don't go that low , i like to retain a little class so you win there . And just a fwiw , when you say things , it's always wise to post a (imo) if it is indeed your opinion.

I have seen comments from others like , the newer Cana's have a slightly upgraded chip and most would think that is a fact which would be wrong unless that poster had some type of inside information .

Carry on
 
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Yes, ^that's it. I have it on my work computer from another site and ebay... both state it's upgradeable to 120Watts..I don't think I'd need more than ~90watts. I've been at 50watts since I received my IPV2.

I love and hate the look of the t5.. the video doesn't show battery removal. I haven't looked into it, but they would be R-tar's if they involved screws in the battery cap..

But everyone who is making a >50watt mod without parallel batteries or a large capacity li-po pack...nvm, I'd get in trouble..surprised ECF hasn't gotten tired of my bs.:)

I hate to get an opinion on the sigilei 100watt box, wIthout holding it, but I'm extremely disappointed P4U isn't going to have a dual battery in the IPV3...I was going to get one, but I can get a good 5-10minute chain vape session on a full battery(vtc5) at 50watts, regardless of resistance..I haven't messed with high resistances, but I would think it would be a worse drain at 50watts than deci-ohm and standard resistances..

Dry burn a coil at 100watts. Change battery. Check wicking at 100watts. Change battery. Grab P229, and go have a talk with P4U about their engineering skills.:)
 

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Apparently PIONEER4YOU (ipv3 100 w), CLOUPER (t-5 50 watt [MODERATED] mod), AND SEGELEI (100 w) have figured out a way to use the sx330 version 3 chip WITH a USB port and a future firmware upgradeable.
These boxes are all coming real soon. Video of the prototypes show 100 watts, a USB, and mention upgraded firmware.
VERY intriguing.
 
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I think on the new youtube video from pioneer4you (not sure the exact title and can't link right this second) they mentioned the IPV 100 watt version would be dual 18650 rather than single. If I remember correctly, he was saying they were just using the single bay box as a prototype but the actual will be dual. This should also be in the title/description of the video as well. I personally am torn between the sigelei and IPV 3. Good eBay deals IMO right now, but the box does look to have sharp edges and I'm not sure they will be doing the updating though they very well could be. Will just have to wait and see once there is more information before I make a decision. Happy Saturday!
 

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Well after all my talk about it not being worth 30 dollars to get it sooner, I broke down. I won a bunch of money at the casino and used part of my winnings to order one from wet vapes a couple days ago. Got here an hour or two ago.
I was using 32 gauge dual coil nano coils with a cotton cloud on my trident at 15 watts on my zmax, first hit with the IPV2 at 35 watts hit amazing, 2nd hit the cotton burned up and burned my throat haha. Shoulda seen that coming, I'm used to getting a lot more hits before I have to drip again. 32 gauge nano coils get very hot with that much power.
Now I have a 26 gauge dual coil at .6, 10 wraps around a 1/8(I think, can't remember). Amazing, I love this thing. Feels well built, lightweight but heavy enough to feel good in the hand. Its been reviewed a lot so I'll spare you the details, but I am very satisfied. There are a couple minor annoyances but really me just being nit picky, nothing that affects performance.
Edit: I'm pleasantly surprised at how small it is, a little wider than a MVP 2, but much lighter. I'm kinda changing my mind about it being that light, after a bit more use I would prefer it be a little heavier for some illogical reason.
 
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Lol "my throat hurts today so i cant smoke it".

Well duh.:p

The 35 and 50w i could kinda understand but seems like they're putting alot of emphasis on a relatively small segment of the market (ie people who could ever conceivably want to go above 50w, especially all the way up to 150).

Not dissing the high power guys, just didn't think there was nearly that much demand for it.
 
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