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I don't own a single product (hardware) that is even made anymore.
But, I've got lots of carto tanks, and Provari's. Or Caravela's and A7's.
I even have a Mako Midi. Wanna talk about setting up a Mako Midi????? LMAO
Is ECF dying?
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I don't own a single product (hardware) that is even made anymore.
But, I've got lots of carto tanks, and Provari's. Or Caravela's and A7's.
I even have a Mako Midi. Wanna talk about setting up a Mako Midi????? LMAO
Dying? It is fading.
I used to hang in the Halo section with dozens of other "Halons." But after Halo abandoned the ecf, slowly, the threads died out. There are scant few of us who still post.
I joined a few weeks after I started Vaping. The ecf support was and is immeasurable.
But the "newness" has faded. And there is competition, other venues, FB, ect. And not competing just in vaping, but so many other things consume our free time.
But we persevere. Regardless of what various gov't and organizations thing, this vaping thing can save MILLIONS of lives!
Vape on, friends. Vape on.
I used to hang in the Halo section with dozens of other "Halons." But after Halo abandoned the ecf, slowly, the threads died out. There are scant few of us who still post.
I joined a few weeks after I started Vaping. The ecf support was and is immeasurable.
But the "newness" has faded. And there is competition, other venues, FB, ect. And not competing just in vaping, but so many other things consume our free time.
But we persevere. Regardless of what various gov't and organizations thing, this vaping thing can save MILLIONS of lives!
Vape on, friends. Vape on.
According to Ancient Aliens, they have before. 
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You know we all have our natural talents, and I am pretty sure even *I* could figure out how to make a very rudimentary vape, but I would be SUPREMELY grumpy as I was doing it.
I can also learn how to churn butter in a SINGLE AFTERNOON probably, but you know, I wouldn't be happy if it is a regular part of my life style.
In other words, MOST people with the capacity to learn can learn most things at varying rates of speed. That should not mean we ALL need to know how to construct a Hadron collider, either. E
Anna
.You know we all have our natural talents, and I am pretty sure even *I* could figure out how to make a very rudimentary vape, but I would be SUPREMELY grumpy as I was doing it.
I can also learn how to churn butter in a SINGLE AFTERNOON probably, but you know, I wouldn't be happy if it is a regular part of my life style.
In other words, MOST people with the capacity to learn can learn most things at varying rates of speed. That should not mean we ALL need to know how to construct a Hadron collider, either. E
Anna
I think it's model glue strain...
My last divorce happened when you had to tap a number numerous times to get a certain letter. She was able to rattle off texts to me in blazing speed... I simply learned to tap 3 twice and 8 once. Worked like a charm. I could do it with my eyes closed even..
@stols001
Anna begins the afternoon learning to churn butter
50 years later...
Anna learns to churn the butter she said would be a jolly afternoons work
Churning butter is serious, it’s no game
Edit; I did actually read the “off topic” stuff. I apologise
In my defence starting a butter churning thread seemed a bit excessive
plus, any post in a thread about a place becoming ornamental must be ok?
Anna begins the afternoon learning to churn butter
50 years later...
Anna learns to churn the butter she said would be a jolly afternoons work
Churning butter is serious, it’s no game
Edit; I did actually read the “off topic” stuff. I apologise
In my defence starting a butter churning thread seemed a bit excessive
plus, any post in a thread about a place becoming ornamental must be ok?
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One thing that ECF is definitely good for is modding and hardware hacking, as we all have certain vaping items that need tweaking or sorting to get them working well. Such as retrofitting screws and o rings due to the duibious quality of the Chinese cheap and nasty ones.
@stols001, coming up with an idea for making a vape mod or atomiser after you've been using things for a while is relatively easy. It's making the dammed things and ironing out any issues with them.
But with how I'm getting nowadays I'd need a gopher or folks to do certain bits and pieces, as using tools is becoming much more difficult than I'd like.
But I think that I could pick up enough parametric CAD to make things somewhat cheaper as that's not physically taxing. Also I'm frugal, or cheap as some may say.
But with RBA's for pods and CBD vapers, I don't think that ECF is going to fade into obscurity.
I think that it's just ebbing a little at the moment due to these interesting times and the fact that you can now find out what is happening anywhere in the world with ease and in seconds. Not like in the past, where it cold take hours, days or weeks to obtain news of distant places.
And of course due to these interesting times, vape shops have been marginalised and as well as the industry shutdown due to lockdowns and travel and transport restrictions in China and that certainly doesn't help.
But things are starting anew now, albeit slowly to establish a new definition of normal. Apart from Super Saturday (4th July) some folks in the UK went straight back to their old ways, as though nothing was happening or ever had.
Never mind alcohol induced reduction of inhibitions and a pandemic just don't mix, our local A&E had wait times of over 4 hours before midnight because it was filled with alcohol related incidents.
But after the ebb there will be folks that need information and help, for example @MacTechVpr tensioned micro coil thread is going to have a lot more activity due to RBA's for pods. So old information given new life by new products due to the fact that it's a perfect fit for them, who would have guessed though.
@stols001, coming up with an idea for making a vape mod or atomiser after you've been using things for a while is relatively easy. It's making the dammed things and ironing out any issues with them.
But with how I'm getting nowadays I'd need a gopher or folks to do certain bits and pieces, as using tools is becoming much more difficult than I'd like.
But I think that I could pick up enough parametric CAD to make things somewhat cheaper as that's not physically taxing. Also I'm frugal, or cheap as some may say.
But with RBA's for pods and CBD vapers, I don't think that ECF is going to fade into obscurity.
I think that it's just ebbing a little at the moment due to these interesting times and the fact that you can now find out what is happening anywhere in the world with ease and in seconds. Not like in the past, where it cold take hours, days or weeks to obtain news of distant places.
And of course due to these interesting times, vape shops have been marginalised and as well as the industry shutdown due to lockdowns and travel and transport restrictions in China and that certainly doesn't help.
But things are starting anew now, albeit slowly to establish a new definition of normal. Apart from Super Saturday (4th July) some folks in the UK went straight back to their old ways, as though nothing was happening or ever had.
Never mind alcohol induced reduction of inhibitions and a pandemic just don't mix, our local A&E had wait times of over 4 hours before midnight because it was filled with alcohol related incidents.
But after the ebb there will be folks that need information and help, for example @MacTechVpr tensioned micro coil thread is going to have a lot more activity due to RBA's for pods. So old information given new life by new products due to the fact that it's a perfect fit for them, who would have guessed though.
Fun fact: I already know how to churn butter. Dude I like my green shoes.
I don't think ECF is gonna die although it is ALSO ironic that everyone is coming out of the woodwork and saying it won't.
I will say this everything is born to die, even forums unfortunately. If you got some peeps you love, well get another way of contacting them. But, I doubt this forum would die without adequate notice if it does at all. Seems unlikely. We have flavorers ready to share their creations for years to come etc. It's all gonna be good.
Anna
I don't think ECF is gonna die although it is ALSO ironic that everyone is coming out of the woodwork and saying it won't.
I will say this everything is born to die, even forums unfortunately. If you got some peeps you love, well get another way of contacting them. But, I doubt this forum would die without adequate notice if it does at all. Seems unlikely. We have flavorers ready to share their creations for years to come etc. It's all gonna be good.
Anna
This is always the first place I come for info when it pertains to vaping. While I’m here, I look at new post, new members and posts with few to no replies. I’ll welcome the new, try to reply/comment when no replies.... Today, this is what I found on the boards!
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hence a dilemma
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orumsVaping and the E-CigaretteTanks, clearomizers and drop-in coils
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hence a dilemma
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Well that is the nature of western humans (aka Eloi). Very few actually want to be self-reliant because that's not as easy and care-free as having the Morlocks make everything for us, despite the fact that the Morlocks will devour us in the end.
If people were interested in becoming self-reliant, disasters like Pandemics would not have such a huge impact on people and families.
Vapers and smokers are just a subset of Eloi.
There are eight million stories in Sin City (the naked city). This will be one of them.
I mostly ran the “equipment” subforums and threads on ECF… those of the manufactures of the gear I bought/used and threads about the same gear posted in standalone threads. So it was no wonder to me why I started losing interest in ECF when most of those manufactures closed their doors and forums, and the folks that ran them drifted away from ECF. I even left ECF and ran a different forum in South Africa for about 18 months when Robert at Reos Mods closed their forum in March 2016. When I came back to ECF most of the ‘crowd’ that had ran the forums I last visited were gone, so I continued to lose interest in ECF. Last fall I also lost interest in vaping itself. After smoking more often on than off for 52 years I had stopped cold turkey for what would be the last time in early 2013. Then when I later learned of something called vaping I checked it out and discovered ECF. I didn’t miss the tobacco at all (I wasn’t hooked on nicotine), but did miss the mechanics of it. So I vaped heavily for something like six and a half years before it too started to fall by the wayside. Now days I don’t miss the forum, only rarely stop by out of boredom I guess. The vaping forum has gone the way that the dozens of other interest specific forums I used to run since the 1980’s had gone. Just as well as my days and nights are so full of “issues” that I have to deal with now that I don’t have time for much else anymore with my expiration date on the horizon.
For those who continue with vaping as long as you can I wish you good luck with it.
Spy
I mostly ran the “equipment” subforums and threads on ECF… those of the manufactures of the gear I bought/used and threads about the same gear posted in standalone threads. So it was no wonder to me why I started losing interest in ECF when most of those manufactures closed their doors and forums, and the folks that ran them drifted away from ECF. I even left ECF and ran a different forum in South Africa for about 18 months when Robert at Reos Mods closed their forum in March 2016. When I came back to ECF most of the ‘crowd’ that had ran the forums I last visited were gone, so I continued to lose interest in ECF. Last fall I also lost interest in vaping itself. After smoking more often on than off for 52 years I had stopped cold turkey for what would be the last time in early 2013. Then when I later learned of something called vaping I checked it out and discovered ECF. I didn’t miss the tobacco at all (I wasn’t hooked on nicotine), but did miss the mechanics of it. So I vaped heavily for something like six and a half years before it too started to fall by the wayside. Now days I don’t miss the forum, only rarely stop by out of boredom I guess. The vaping forum has gone the way that the dozens of other interest specific forums I used to run since the 1980’s had gone. Just as well as my days and nights are so full of “issues” that I have to deal with now that I don’t have time for much else anymore with my expiration date on the horizon.
For those who continue with vaping as long as you can I wish you good luck with it.
Spy
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Modding.
Most (if not all) of the great innovations and inventions in vaping started on ECF and other vaping forums all over the world--in Germany, Greece, Russia and other countries. First improved cartomizers, carto tanks/fillerless tankomizers/clearomizers (Billy, Badkolo, Martinez); mods--Trogg's Screwdriver, Little Brother and Little Sister, GG Golden Greek--@imeothanasis; the Silver Bullet; RBAs (Raidy's Genisis), Reo's mods and squonking, RTAs (SvoeMesto's Kayfun), first vv mods (ProVari), first vw mods (Evolv's Darwin), kick, TC (Evolv's DNA), Arctic Fox. Our modders and resident wizards tested every possible material for best wicks (from ss mesh, alpaca wool, hemp, cotton, ecowool, ceramic, to rayon (@JeremyR) and beyond; best batteries are still tirelessly tested by @Mooch; and wires. The industry continues to develop thanks to the constant feedback from vapers, reviewers, vendors, bloggers... Phil Busardo, Dimitri, Grimm are (were) all members of this forum.
Syringe mods? Juice bottle tanks? Altoid tin mods? Flashlight mods?
First carto tank/clearomizer, invented by my dear friend br5495,
A modified Altoid tin. BTW, that's why we still call them mods. Because they used to be everyday objects modified for use in vaping.
Nicotine? E-liquids and their safety? Where do I begin?
Nicotine Comparisons thread was started in 2012 by @Cyrus Vap and remains a place to share what we know and are learning about nicotine purity, storage, mixing and handling. @Rossum continues this work in his own thread through his continued experimenting.
Nobody was looking out for us and our safety in 2007 when vaping began in earnest--we had to do it ourselves. In 2009, @Kate raised questions about diacetyl, later confirmed by @Kurt, Dr @KFarsalinos and others. Kurt also warned us about possible risks associated with vaping eliquids containing cinnamaldehyde, oil based flavorings, and some questionable sweeteners. Kurt and @mikepetro and Farsalinos warned us about overheating e-liquids and the formation of formaldehyde, acrolein and other undesirables. We discussed the use of crystalline silica as a filler in certain coil heads (now gone), iffy plastics for tanks (gone or replaced with better plastics and glass), mod safety (believe it or not, some early mods were made without venting holes
--fixed). And yes, @MacTechVpr is still teaching us how to build better coils.Many commercial e-liquid makers (and hardware designers) started here, as fellow ECF rank and file vaping enthusiasts.
So again, thanks @Oliver for founding this forum. I am forever in your debt. Wherever you are!
*sigh* Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
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Ahhh the good ole days....man when I got on Pedro's list and actually getting one, I thought I was on top of the world. I had that caravela paired with a DID and it was special
Staple? I almost forgot. We did that too.
Staple Mod - Filling The Center Conductor Gap On Penstyle Atomizers
POST OF THE DECADE!!!!
*sigh* Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
SO with you, and SO feelin' ya. Two thumbs up for the downtrodden, oui (we).
He's mixing us up a couple of those gorgeous Genoa CL atties as I type this message. @Katdarling and I are pleased.
Life is still good, sometimes.
Most of the time though >
POST OF THE DECADE!!!!
SO with you, and SO feelin' ya. Two thumbs up for the downtrodden, oui (we).
He's mixing us up a couple of those gorgeous Genoa CL atties as I type this message. @Katdarling and I are pleased.
Life is still good, sometimes.
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Most of the time though >
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Nite Lite thread, anyone?
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