Is ECF dying?

[Rossum]

You can always make your own.

The crap only started in 2009, so we have only had 10 years to figure it out.
Yes, that's right, over 10 years to figure out how to become SELF RELIANT.

I don't know about anyone else, but there is NOTHING that I can't make myself.
(except batteries that is) Do ya expect batteries to disappear too !?!

I don't think that's an urgent concern, but I do believe in having a Plan B and a Plan C.

 

[stols001]

Well, feel a little sad then. We have all been there. Is English your first language? And yes, I WANT to find out about the ALTOIDS mod, although my husband is good at flashlights.

You are free to post ANY vape question you want (I mean, within reason) BUT LOOK I just asked for how to make an Altoids vape and got AN ANSWER.

Find that on FB. Really. Do it, And more focused tighter suggestions tend to lead to more focused mod discussion. :This one really isn't.

But uh, maybe more than 3 posts before criticizing the whole site and comparing it to FB which it ISN'T I have been to that vile place it's NOT GOOD.

SO SAD @magic peter what do you want to KNOW?

Anna

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

As a newcomer to this forum, I feel a little sad, I feel that everyone is good, but sometimes there is no more attention than facebook about vaping

Some get it that way unfortunately Mate
It's pretty good overall

 

[Uncle]

You know that I love you, Uncle, don't you?

. . . The "Feeling" is absolutely mutual . . .

.

 

[evan le'garde]

ECF's in a coma, on a life support machine, along with THC for medication, realizing it's worst dreams, with only a few friends coming to visit.

Get well soon ECF !.

 

[Opinionated]

If we get to page 10,. do we all agree that ECF is NOT dead and not even the WALKING dead?

And some of you lurkers need to talk more.

Or maybe we need a variant of this thread every week. "Where have all the ECF old timers gone?" Or. "Power to the no longer secretly present people who can make a mod from an altoids can (I can't) and TELL US BABIES HOW?"

Etc.

Anna

Well this week the battery in my phone shot craps, and I am waiting for a new battery, so I cant get online as often because, well who wants to use a great big computer to get online anyway?

haha (all true though, all true!)

 

[Javichu]

well who wants to use a great big computer to get online anyway?

haha (all true though, all true!)

I do,i do.

Refuse to use a smartphone so all my online interactions are done with my ''great big computer''

 

[Mordacai]

I know that it's a little bit off topic, but Brave browser is good for PC and Forum users. It's basically Crome browser, but without the bloatware and most importantly has a built in spell check.

As the amount of times I've had to do a web search just to see that yes, my spelling sucks. Hard.

 

[Opinionated]

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I do,i do.

Refuse to use a smartphone so all my online interactions are done with my ''great big computer''

I have serious medical issues and getting out the laptop when I'm in bed is increasingly difficult without help, whereas I can just grab the phone, so Ive been nearly exclusively on my phone for two years now.. Its just easier for me. I can no longer sit up long enough to use the actual desktop computer at all, as my out of bed time is now essentials only...

 

[CMD-Ky]

I have serious medical issues and getting out the laptop when I'm in bed is increasingly difficult without help, whereas I can just grab the phone, so Ive been nearly exclusively on my phone for two years now.. Its just easier for me. I can no longer sit up long enough to use the actual desktop computer at all, as my out of bed time is now essentials only...

Makes perfect sense to me, if that was my situation then I'd do the same thing.
Best wishes, Opinionated.

 

[Javichu]

I have serious medical issues and getting out the laptop when I'm in bed is increasingly difficult without help, whereas I can just grab the phone, so Ive been nearly exclusively on my phone for two years now.. Its just easier for me. I can no longer sit up long enough to use the actual desktop computer at all, as my out of bed time is now essentials only...

Sorry to hear that buddy

Best wishes go out to you,just seems that everyone is struggling these days.

 

[sonicbomb]

My eyes are shot, so doing anything more than making calls and the occasional text on a smartphone is out the window even with glasses. I like a desktop and as large a widescreen as possible to make extended web activity comfortable.

 

[Javichu]

My eyes are shot, so doing anything more than making calls and the occasional text on a smartphone is out the window even with glasses. I like a desktop and as large a widescreen as possible to make extended web activity comfortable.

I hear you buddy!!

Realization that i was getting old finally sunk in about 6 months ago.
Since my pops can't eat anything with high sodium i need to read the ingredients of everything i buy.

So i was looking at the list of ingredients and i just couldn't read it so i went thru what i call the ''the rocker''....just pulled said item back and forth until i could distinguish the writing.

Week after i had to get glasses to read up close,so yeah i feel your pain buddy.

 

[SlowTalker]

My eyes are shot, so doing anything more than making calls and the occasional text on a smartphone is out the window even with glasses. I like a desktop and as large a widescreen as possible to make extended web activity comfortable.

When my computer monitor died a few months ago I hooked up a 32" HDTV that I wasn't using and it's been awesome. Cheaper than a monitor for that size too. And it's got it's own speakers.

 

[Javichu]

When my computer monitor died a few months ago I hooked up a 32" HDTV that I wasn't using and it's been awesome. Cheaper than a monitor for that size too. And it's got it's own speakers.

Don't remind me...my 24'' Benq died yesterday,bought a cheap crappy monitor from the cyber cafe place,since they are closed at the moment i only paid 20 euros.

Think vaping had something to do with it,there was some oil like substance when they opened it to see if it could be repaired...i might have to start vaping outside,or use my Innokin Zlide,meh

 

[Myrany]

The internet in general is a sometimes dangerous distraction. Many times i've had to swerve around pedestrians who are crossing the street by stepping off the pavement, into the road, right in front of me, whilst they appear to be staring at the palm of their hand the entire time. So i shake my head at them, and they look at me like i'm the one who is doing something wrong.
Although pedestrians have that attitude towards cyclists anyway. They see no danger from a cyclist so they cross, i swerve, then i get run over by the car coming from behind.

If you can relate to this as a pedestrian and a mobile ECF user "PLEASE WATCH WHERE YOU'RE GOING IN FUTURE".

I know I am not a real cyclist but I just bought a Nordictrack Grand Tour bike and am doing some of their preprogrammed rides set all over the world with them controlling incline and resistance to match the terrain in the video. It is HARD work. You have my admiration.

For me it is another step in taking my life back. 7 years ago quit smoking, 2 years ago started Wight Watcher (125 lbs gone forever), 1 year ago started jogging, now the bike.

Who knew what switching to vaping would lead to.

mind you the bike does have a tablet holder
(Actually I can't reach the dang thing to even change the music I have on while riding)

 

[evan le'garde]

I know I am not a real cyclist but I just bought a Nordictrack Grand Tour bike and am doing some of their preprogrammed rides set all over the world with them controlling incline and resistance to match the terrain in the video. It is HARD work. You have my admiration.

For me it is another step in taking my life back. 7 years ago quit smoking, 2 years ago started Wight Watcher (125 lbs gone forever), 1 year ago started jogging, now the bike.

Who knew what switching to vaping would lead to.

mind you the bike does have a tablet holder
(Actually I can't reach the dang thing to even change the music I have on while riding)

I'd prefer to do what you're doing actually !. I thought about a "Turbo Trainer" but i'm not sure if a bike frame, any bike frame, is designed for the stress produced by them.

One thing i will tell you though. "Cadence". Cadence is probably the most important part. Keeping up a comfortable "easy to maintain" rhythm. I've been doing this now for about 8 years. At the moment i cycle fifty miles a day (approx 2500 kcal burned daily).

Low to no impact cycling is far and away better, and a lot less hard work, than Jogging (it doesn't wear out the soles of your shoes either).

There is a not so obvious difference between cycling on the roads and cycling on an exercise bike though. And that's "resistence", wind resistence !. It constantly changes outdoors, whereas an exercise bike's resistence will be fixed, or can be altered but remains the same during use (I could be wrong, maybe there are more advanced exercise bikes that can auto adjust resistence during use). Anyhow, outdoors it's a constant struggle to maintain cadence with wind, gusts or a change of direction. The point is to keep cycling at the same rate of rotation no matter what the resistence is. A windy day with winds of 20 mph and gusts of 30 means, on a route which takes you in all directions, more calories will be burnt than on a day where there is for example half as much wind. Depending on what type of exercise you are doing, whether it's muscle building/toning, or just plain old calorie burning will determine how hard you think you should be working. For me it's solely for calorie/cholesterol burning.

Working your muscles means having to raise your heart rate to burn fat. But if you're just doing it to burn calories/ cholesterol then you don't actually have to work too hard at all, it just take longer. So cadence is more pertinent to my style of cycling rather than toning etc. Trying to maintain a reasonable speed against a relatively strong wind turns the pleasure of cycling into an absolute nightmare. It's enough to make you want to give up completely !.

I can't imagine what these guys i see out on the road, in their high speed clothing, and lightweight road bikes, are thinking when they just assume they can race against the wind for 20 miles. I do know one thing though, i never see the same guy twice. I just have to assume they simply couldn't work out how people do it, gave up and went home to put their bike up for sale on Ebay.

Racing against the wind is futile !.

 

[Javichu]

I'd prefer to do what you're doing actually !. I thought about a "Turbo Trainer" but i'm not sure if a bike frame, any bike frame, is designed for the stress produced by them.

One thing i will tell you though. "Cadence". Cadence is probably the most important part. Keeping up a comfortable "easy to maintain" rhythm. I've been doing this now for about 8 years. At the moment i cycle fifty miles a day (approx 2500 kcal burned daily).

Low to no impact cycling is far and away better, and a lot less hard work, than Jogging (it doesn't wear out the soles of your shoes either).

There is a not so obvious difference between cycling on the roads and cycling on an exercise bike though. And that's "resistence", wind reistence !. It constantly changes outdoors, whereas an exercise bike's resistence will be fixed, or can be altered but remains the same during use (I could be wrong, maybe there are more advanced exercise bikes that can auto adjust resistence during use). Anyhow, outdoors it's a constant struggle to maintain cadence with wind, gusts or a change of direction. The point is to keep cycling at the same rate of rotation no matter what the resistence is. A windy day with winds of 20 mph and gusts of 30 means, on a route which takes you in all directions, more calories will be burnt than on a day where there is for example half as much wind. Depending on what type of exercise you are doing, whether it's muscle building/toning, or just plain old calorie burning will determine how hard you think you should be working. For me it's solely for calorie/cholesterol burning.

Working your muscles means having to raise your heart rate to burn fat. But if you're just doing it to burn calories/ cholesterol then you don't actually have to work too hard at all, it just take longer. So cadence is more pertinent to my style of cycling rather than toning etc. Trying to maintain a reasonable cadence against a relatively strong wind turns the pleasure of cycling into an absolute nightmare. It's enough to make you want to give up completely !.

I can't imagine what these guys i see out on the road, in their high speed clothing, and lightweight road bikes, are thinking when they just assume they can race against the wind for 20 miles. I do know one thing though, i never see the same guy twice. I just have to assume they simply couldn't work out how people do it, gave up and went home to put their bike up for sale on Ebay.

Racing against the wind is futile !.

While you do make some valid points but it seems you are just looking at cycling as an exercise and not an enjoyable activity that provides both exercise AND fun.

In Spain cycling is a big thing,same as Italy and France.
Back when i lived in Torrevieja (south east of Spain) my go to place on sundays was this small cafe right on the seaside.

Same cafe was the meeting place for a cycling club,you would see all age groups from the 75 year old that was in better shape than me at the time or the 9 year old who got his first ''professional'' bike.

On some of the ''lighter'' trips they had for newbies i actually joined them (had to borrow a bike from a friend thou,all i had was a mountain bike) and let me tell you there is no comparison when it comes to outdoor cycling.

On a professional and competitive level few cyclist do it from home or a gym,at least here in Europe.
Basically all their training is done outdoors and in packs,sometimes they will go right behind a motorcycle to ''mimic'' the real competitive feeling.
By this i mean the scooter or motorcycle is the one that dictates the rhythm and the pace.

If it's only exercise you going after and not the ''fun'' factor and the comradery that comes from going with a group of friends or in a club then yeah maybe you better at home on stationary bicycle...but doing your cycling outdoors can be more beneficial in more ways than one.


If someone really likes cycling the only benefits of doing it at home is that you don't depend on the weather and IF you live in the city it is less dangerous but that is about it.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

I'd prefer to do what you're doing actually !. I thought about a "Turbo Trainer" but i'm not sure if a bike frame, any bike frame, is designed for the stress produced by them.

One thing i will tell you though. "Cadence". Cadence is probably the most important part. Keeping up a comfortable "easy to maintain" rhythm. I've been doing this now for about 8 years. At the moment i cycle fifty miles a day (approx 2500 kcal burned daily).

Low to no impact cycling is far and away better, and a lot less hard work, than Jogging (it doesn't wear out the soles of your shoes either).

There is a not so obvious difference between cycling on the roads and cycling on an exercise bike though. And that's "resistence", wind resistence !. It constantly changes outdoors, whereas an exercise bike's resistence will be fixed, or can be altered but remains the same during use (I could be wrong, maybe there are more advanced exercise bikes that can auto adjust resistence during use). Anyhow, outdoors it's a constant struggle to maintain cadence with wind, gusts or a change of direction. The point is to keep cycling at the same rate of rotation no matter what the resistence is. A windy day with winds of 20 mph and gusts of 30 means, on a route which takes you in all directions, more calories will be burnt than on a day where there is for example half as much wind. Depending on what type of exercise you are doing, whether it's muscle building/toning, or just plain old calorie burning will determine how hard you think you should be working. For me it's solely for calorie/cholesterol burning.

Working your muscles means having to raise your heart rate to burn fat. But if you're just doing it to burn calories/ cholesterol then you don't actually have to work too hard at all, it just take longer. So cadence is more pertinent to my style of cycling rather than toning etc. Trying to maintain a reasonable speed against a relatively strong wind turns the pleasure of cycling into an absolute nightmare. It's enough to make you want to give up completely !.

I can't imagine what these guys i see out on the road, in their high speed clothing, and lightweight road bikes, are thinking when they just assume they can race against the wind for 20 miles. I do know one thing though, i never see the same guy twice. I just have to assume they simply couldn't work out how people do it, gave up and went home to put their bike up for sale on Ebay.

Racing against the wind is futile !.

Ready for a time trial up Alpe d'Huez in driving rain and blustery winds?

 

[evan le'garde]

While you do make some valid points but it seems you are just looking at cycling as an exercise and not an enjoyable activity that provides both exercise AND fun.

In Spain cycling is a big thing,same as Italy and France.
Back when i lived in Torrevieja (south east of Spain) my go to place on sundays was this small cafe right on the seaside.

Same cafe was the meeting place for a cycling club,you would see all age groups from the 75 year old that was in better shape than me at the time or the 9 year old who got his first ''professional'' bike.

On some of the ''lighter'' trips they had for newbies i actually joined them (had to borrow a bike from a friend thou,all i had was a mountain bike) and let me tell you there is no comparison when it comes to outdoor cycling.

On a professional and competitive level few cyclist do it from home or a gym,at least here in Europe.
Basically all their training is done outdoors and in packs,sometimes they will go right behind a motorcycle to ''mimic'' the real competitive feeling.
By this i mean the scooter or motorcycle is the one that dictates the rhythm and the pace.

If it's only exercise you going after and not the ''fun'' factor and the comradery that comes from going with a group of friends or in a club then yeah maybe you better at home on stationary bicycle...but doing your cycling outdoors can be more beneficial in more ways than one.


If someone really likes cycling the only benefits of doing it at home is that you don't depend on the weather and IF you live in the city it is less dangerous but that is about it.

I get that. I totally understand what you mean. And i do enjoy cycling, a lot !.

Trying to struggle against the wind and maintain a reasonable speed is "not" fun at all. Imagine "not" trying to go fast when the wind is behind you. On Tuesday, with gusts of 30 ish miles an hour, I was cycling 13 -14 miles an hour against the wind and just 16-18 miles an hour with the wind. I could have travelled over 20 miles an hour with the wind if i wanted. But i'd burn out about 10 miles from the finish completely exhausted. I've smoked for over 30 years, i simply cannot cycle the way my brain thinks i can, my lungs know better, so i hang back.