Is it possible I'm PG sensitive? ???

[sachavaca]

I had pounding headaches that lasted 2 days from a vendors juice when I first started vaping. I switched to vg but never verified what my problem was. 2 day headache!!!!!!!!!!!, not worth verifying

 

[cowbooger88]

Is it possible I could drop to a 40pg/60 vg mix and not have problems? Switching from the vendor juice to online and down in nicotine lowered my headache pain alot. Again hives only started today after mixing juices

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[cowbooger88]

Until I verify vendor ratio I can't tell if I got more pg in it or if I'm just allergic to the peach. That has been the only difference in today that resulted k hives

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[sachavaca]

anything is possible, if your up too it do your experiments and post your results so others can learn

 

[VapnWitch]

Your symptoms matched mine almost perfectly, but I found out that it wasn't the PG, it was something else that was specific to certain vendors. I still don't know what it was, and I still can't vape over about 20%PG (I get killer migraines if it's higher, and it makes me sick, sinus issues, sore throat, etc.), but after I tried a PG free line from one vendor and still broke out, I started eliminating those vendors from my stash.

So while it very well might be a PG allergy, and I highly recommend trying an all VG juice (Velvet Cloud Vapor, Potion Vape, maybe Highbrow Vapor, etc.), it might be something else. I suggest not ordering more than a sampler pack or a couple of flavors from any vendor until you know for sure that it's PG causing it, that way you don't lose too much money trying new things to see what works.

For a good starting point for VG vendors, check out this blog post. Good luck, and I really hope you find something that works for you!

 

[cowbooger88]

Thank you! I do have to be a pain in the .... and stick with my zeus juice (i love them) luckily I can order 100% VG if need be. I do find it odd my throat was hurting with the one brand and actually devolved what looked like strep throat making me put the ecig down until last week. I will Def keep everyone updated as if it helps even one person it's worth it! I don't want to go back to analogs even though 4 days ago I wanted nothing more then payday to hurry up so I could get a pack haha

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[Completely Average]

The best way to approach this is by simple process of elimination.

PG is the most likely cause. It may be something else, but start with PG first. Try the pure PG with no nicotine or flavor and see how you feel. If you get sick then you've got your answer.

If you feel fine, reverse it and try a pure VG liquid. Perhaps you're one of the few who is allergic to that.

If you feel fine with both pure VG and pure PG then try a blend with nicotine, but no flavor.

If you're still not having problems then it's probably the flavor causing you problems, but considering your headache and nausea persisted across different flavors and mixes I firmly believe it's the PG or the VG.

 

[cowbooger88]

Is it possible mixing the two brands caused a reaction? If I find out ratio is the same

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[Completely Average]

Anything is possible. You could be allergic to the peach flavor. Trying to reason it out to find the cause isn't going to work though.

If you went to a doctor and had an allergy test done they could tell you what is causing the problem, but that's expensive. The easiest way to find the cause is the process of elimination I listed earlier. Deal with one ingredient at a time, and when you find the one that causes the problem you'll know how to handle it from there.

Any good vape shop should be more than happy to help you out if you explain your problem. Anyone that does custom mixing should have both pure PG and pure VG on hand and be able to let you try each one separately. I wouldn't use them both at the same time because then you can't tell which you're reacting to, but you should be able to try the PG one day and if you have no problems try the VG the next, and keep at it until you isolate the cause.

 

[UnclePsyko]

I personally feel that trying to self-diagnose is a really bad idea. A dermatologist can do a simple "Patch Test" to determine if you are indeed allergic to PG. PG allergy is a very real thing but it is extremely rare, something along the lines of 3% of the population. It should be known that if you are truly allergic to PG, you probably would have had some indication before you started vaping... PG is in nearly all soaps, toothpaste, deodorants, moisturizing eye drops, cake mixes, soda flavorings and... tobacco cigarettes as a humectant to keep them from drying up like dead leaves in your back yard.
The wise thing to do would be to contact your doctor and discuss your symptoms with the professional, I don't think any one of us is qualified to diagnose your symptoms. You could be sensitive to any number of things, or could be withdrawal from the tobacco... you can't be too safe!
Good luck!

**disclaimer** I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express

 

[cowbooger88]

I'm noy saying it's an allergy. I'm leaning towards sensitive. I'm only feeling what other people's opinions may be. I broke into hives after the Dr's closed. The only three things that have changed today is
1. Mixing the two brands
2. Using a peach flavor (i have used this previously with no other symptom then headache but only used it an hour compared to the 6 I have today)
3. Getting hives

I've narrowed it down pretty drastically. Again, the vendor brand at 18mg gave me horrid migraines within a few vapes, which is why I switched to an online brand AND dropped the nicotine level, I was also given so many ratio options i just kind of picked one because the vendor juice bottle didn't list one on it. Without being able to contact the shop until the morning I'm just fishing for answers to see if I may even be pointing in the right direction or if I'm so far off I'm on neptune. That is all

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[Completely Average]

I think you're headed in the right directions.

The hives are what makes me say it's an allergic reaction. You generally don't get hives unless it's a full blown allergy.


Perhaps this will help....

Some people will find that when using PG they experience some side effects. A dryness in the mouth and throat that is known commonly as cottonmouth may happen if you use the atomizer a lot and don’t drink enough. Rarely, PG can cause an upset stomach, with stomach pains and nausea, and even more rarely a person may be allergic to PG. In this case, hives, another rash, or dry skin can occur, and can become very uncomfortable. Once you stop using juices with PG in them, the symptoms will stop, and VG may be the answer for you.

PG vs VG

 

[cowbooger88]

I think you're headed in the right directions.

The hives are what makes me say it's an allergic reaction. You generally don't get hives unless it's a full blown allergy.


Perhaps this will help....



PG vs VG

Thank you all this benadryl is kicking in. At least when I'm sleeping I won't itch haha. I'm not sure if my shop mixes or orders, sometimes they just seem downright ditzy like they have no clue what they are talking about. So with my luck they just order in. I'll be finding out tommorow no matter what it takes. I've never gotten hives before, but again im being told I have no clue what I'm talking about because somebody i know vapes ecigs and doesn't have these problems. They blame it on my work environment, which hasn't changed suddenly today!! Thank you for all the help. I will be touching base tommorow hopefully I'll have more answers

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[cowbooger88]

****update*****
Well I wasn't able to get an exact answer from my vendor other then my flavor may contain a 80/20 or 70/30 ratio, it's still higher then what I've been using. I'm going to order my next batch using a 40pg/60 vg ratio and see if that calms most of my reactions down. I'd rather not drop to 6mg if it's not the nicotine that's bothering me....I'll keep updated though

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Until I verify vendor ratio I can't tell if I got more pg in it or if I'm just allergic to the peach. That has been the only difference in today that resulted k hives

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NOT saying you have the same issue but I found I was allergic/ sensitive to Ethyl Maltol- a sweetener used by Vendors. I got mouth ulcers and became very, very itchy. Gave it to a friend and no more problems. He vaped it all without issue. As Racehorse has suggested try non flavored or buy some VG (Glycerin USP) from the pharmacy.

 

[Completely Average]

Yep, that sounds like a PG problem. At 60% you felt sort of bad, at 70-80% you had a full blown allergic reaction. If you haven't ordered your next batch I would suggest dropping to a 20pg/80vg mic or even a 100%vg. That should allow you to vape until your heart's content without any nasty side effects.

 

[cowbooger88]

I ordered a 40/60 ratio. Only one bottle in the 12mg strength. That way if it still bothers me my asst manager can take it and I don't really lose out. I'm going to say with the 80/20 and breaking out in hives to the 60/40 and only having a slight headache and some nausea that a 40/60 will hopefully do the trick. The vendor was really dumb though as nobody knew what the ratio was but said the peach was likely a 80/20 I'm Def gonna keep updated I appreciate all help. But like I said if I can avoid going 100% VG id like too

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I ordered a 40/60 ratio. Only one bottle in the 12mg strength. That way if it still bothers me my asst manager can take it and I don't really lose out. I'm going to say with the 80/20 and breaking out in hives to the 60/40 and only having a slight headache and some nausea that a 40/60 will hopefully do the trick. The vendor was really dumb though as nobody knew what the ratio was but said the peach was likely a 80/20 I'm Def gonna keep updated I appreciate all help. But like I said if I can avoid going 100% VG id like too

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

Standards in the industry are either 70/ 30 or 80/ 20 PG/ VG. If the Vendor doesn't know the PG/ VG ratio it sounds like they have quality control issues and I'd be very wary of buying their juice.

 

[cowbooger88]

They said the only person that knew was the owner. That's why I've ordered from zeusejuice. I can order any way I want. They make to order the local vendor seems to just put whatever together and didn't seem concerned when I was trying to get info from them. The shops were worse. I was hung up on by tech support multiple times. So unless I need equipment im not going back. Unfortunately this is the only ecig set up I've had that I like.

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[MikeS71]

It really sounds like your issue is in the flavoring, not the PG/VG ratio... Just my but if someone working in a shop can't tell you whats in the juice- you shouldnt be shopping there.