For the VTR:
Often, if you use official distributors, you'll get much longer warranties. Did you have your serial number registered?
Personally, the more I spend, the more I look towards Customer service and warranties.
is porvari king?
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For the VTR:
Often, if you use official distributors, you'll get much longer warranties. Did you have your serial number registered?
Personally, the more I spend, the more I look towards Customer service and warranties.
I had the MVP first its a great mod.... I was then gifted a Provari and I love it. I also had a Tesla.. when it died in less than a month I took the store credit and put it toward a Polished Stainless Steel Mini... 
I took the full size Provari and the MVP to Vegas this past weekend and vaped off both of them... pretty similar vaping experience.
I like the provari for the quality of the build and the warranty plus its made in the USA. I like the MVP's for its battery life...
I took the full size Provari and the MVP to Vegas this past weekend and vaped off both of them... pretty similar vaping experience.
I like the provari for the quality of the build and the warranty plus its made in the USA. I like the MVP's for its battery life...
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Yes it was registered and still they would not help even with a new board to repair it. IF I ever buy another Innokin product it will be from FastTech as they offer 6 months ...double what the manufacturer does I did like my VTR a LOT .but I am too broke to buy unrepairable products that have no customer support.
(as I take a vape from my Vamo) Both are good. (looks at my Aga-T) I believe the atomizer has more to do with vape quality. (looks at mechanical mod)....
Conclusion is, I have neither. I've found that juice/toppers is more important than the device you use it on. The device should match your vaping style. Both the Provari and the MVP produce DC power to the atomizer. However, the atomizer is what decides how the power is used. If the MVP works for you, then it works for you. If you prefer 22mm atomziers, then the Provari would offer a portable vaping "cylinder". If you like holsters, the MVP fits snugly... If you drop your mod a lot, provari is sturdier.... If you don't want to mess with battery chargers, then the MVP is better.. they both have their ups and downs.
What works for you, is what matters. I've never looked at someone's mod and said "wow, mine is better" or "wow, yours is better"... I admire each's good side, but it might not be the best choice for me.
I have a Vamo V3/V5, I love the three button design, I change voltages/wattages depending on what I put on top. I like carrying a spare battery to replace as needed, and I like the OLED display. That's my best choice... But, I need to rely on charged batteries, cannot plug it in like yours, I have to charge the batteries seperately. Mine is also not as pocketable as yours, and mine requires more cleaning and maintenance than yours.
In short.. neither. Enjoy your vape.
I've never seen this VTR until nowLooks amazing. What's the difference between this an an MVP2?
The VTR has more power. It will output up to 6 volts, 15 watts, and will drive up to 5 amps if you don't exceed the first two limits. It will also fire .6Ω coils, which is nice so I can keep firing my sub-ohm attys that I build for my mech while my Sony batt is charging.
Anything lower than .6 and the short circuit protection trips on as it will exceed the 5 amp limit. It also uses 18650 batteries which makes swapping on the fly easy if your mod goes dead. I get a day and a half out of a full charge of my Samsung 2,600 mAh cells.The MVP is less powerful, but uses a higher PWM frequency. This means no rattlesnake effect. It has a high capacity internal battery, but it's not swappable if your charge depletes during the middle of the day. Not much of a problem, people seem to run them a few days between charges.
The biggest factor for me was the recess in the VTR's body and protective ring around the atomizer. That, and it looks like sex. It's also a bit heavy, because it's cast of brass and very solid. It took that 6+ foot fall without any significant marks or scratches.
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All devices are "grand" if they keep you from picking up a real cigarette and lighting it. I have a mvp2 and I doubt I could take 1100 toots on one charge from any other pv I own. I love mine. I'd be lying if I said I don't look at other pv's and not want them. I love "vape porn". But I honestly I have everything I need to keep me happy right now. Be happy for your friend, but be even happier that you are vaping and not smoking. Good luck and happy vaping.
so many people with provaris but I still want a panzer mod that thing is cool looking
For me the answer is No, and what ever anyone select or bought, that is the "King".
While Provari isn't king, it is at least an Earl or a Duke. And yeah, it will put the MVP to shame. The P puts out 6 volts and 15 watts of power, the MVP only puts out 5 volts and 11 watts. So yeah, your friend one upped you for sure. But go and score a DNA30 mod or the SuperMax, and the Provari will be humbled.
It you haven't maxed out or outgrown the capabilities of the MVP, then you are fine where you are at. There is always something bigger and better out there or something in production. lol.
It you haven't maxed out or outgrown the capabilities of the MVP, then you are fine where you are at. There is always something bigger and better out there or something in production. lol.
....that's assuming he likes to vape at 15 watts and 6 volts. Where's the USB charging cable for your Provari? I bet the MVP can change voltages faster.. have a race.. go from three volts to five then back to four.. I can guarantee you, the MVP will be quicker....what about the passthrough functionality of your Provari? can you charge your cellphone with a provari? BTW, which has a smaller form factor.. the provari or MVP.....
As I said, there are plusses and minuses to each one. If you're talking voltages and wattages, my $35 Vamo beats you there... along with a 18350, 18500 and 18650 tube... I could buy almost four Vamos Vs one Provari.
The 'one up' thing is not really what it's all about. It's like asking which is better, a corvette, a Ford f350, or a Mack truck, or the latest honda hybrid.... they all have their roles, and what works for you, others may not like.
Same same. I actually use my MVP more than my Provari. The difference is PRICE! Yet both do the same job for me!
@Kuljit, SoonerChris & Train2: Thank you all very much. I feel stupid now (well, I should say "stupider than usual") that I simply didn't scroll down far enough on their "Ordering Info" page. I did find a couple of other sites that sell ProVaris when I used better search criteria than I started with.
I really shouldn't even imply that "I'll never buy a ProVari because it lacks VW and is very expensive". Who knows what the future may hold? I feel differently about some mods, mechs and RDAs now than I did a month ago, as I've learned a lot since then. And I'm confident I'll know more next month than I know now, as well.
On my short-term horizon is a Sigelei Zmax V5. But who's to say that I won't end up deciding to get myself a ProVari for my birthday this year (October)? Goodness knows I've spent "outside the normal bounds" for gadgets in the past.
Case in point: The year Die Another Day was released, Norelco had a sales promotion for their newest model of electric razor, which was featured in the movie (the one Bond was using in the Hong Kong hotel room around 20 minutes or so into the movie). The razor - their flagship product at the time - cost around $225, but you could pay some 40 bucks more to get a little, painted-on Die Another Day logo on the side of the razor. Not many people paid the premium for that. But, of course, being the Bond nut that I am, I did. Still have it to this day, in fact. It's 12 years old, and its battery is as strong as the day I bought it.
Now, I'm sure that the small bit of paint on the side of my electric razor has nothing to do with its reliability. But it is a very nice and well-built razor, and there's really no way to know how long any product you buy, whether cheap or expensive, will last until you live with it for a while.
The point is, aspects of a product that may not be important to some people can be quite important to others. From everything I've read, the ProVari is a top-shelf APV. And some people will consider the ProVari to be the "king" of APVs. For others, the Zmax may be the king. Or the Vamo. Or the Nemesis. And so on...
My recommendation is, before you spend upwards of $100 on a vaping device, do at least a few days worth of research and ask questions in a place such as this until you feel comfortable that your money will be well spent. Because what you buy may very well end up being your "King APV"!
I feel stupid now (well, I should say "stupider than usual") that I simply didn't scroll down far enough on their "Ordering Info" page. I did find a couple of other sites that sell ProVaris when I used better search criteria than I started with.I really shouldn't even imply that "I'll never buy a ProVari because it lacks VW and is very expensive". Who knows what the future may hold? I feel differently about some mods, mechs and RDAs now than I did a month ago, as I've learned a lot since then. And I'm confident I'll know more next month than I know now, as well.
On my short-term horizon is a Sigelei Zmax V5. But who's to say that I won't end up deciding to get myself a ProVari for my birthday this year (October)? Goodness knows I've spent "outside the normal bounds" for gadgets in the past.
Case in point: The year Die Another Day was released, Norelco had a sales promotion for their newest model of electric razor, which was featured in the movie (the one Bond was using in the Hong Kong hotel room around 20 minutes or so into the movie). The razor - their flagship product at the time - cost around $225, but you could pay some 40 bucks more to get a little, painted-on Die Another Day logo on the side of the razor. Not many people paid the premium for that. But, of course, being the Bond nut that I am, I did. Still have it to this day, in fact. It's 12 years old, and its battery is as strong as the day I bought it.
Now, I'm sure that the small bit of paint on the side of my electric razor has nothing to do with its reliability. But it is a very nice and well-built razor, and there's really no way to know how long any product you buy, whether cheap or expensive, will last until you live with it for a while.
The point is, aspects of a product that may not be important to some people can be quite important to others. From everything I've read, the ProVari is a top-shelf APV. And some people will consider the ProVari to be the "king" of APVs. For others, the Zmax may be the king. Or the Vamo. Or the Nemesis. And so on...
My recommendation is, before you spend upwards of $100 on a vaping device, do at least a few days worth of research and ask questions in a place such as this until you feel comfortable that your money will be well spent. Because what you buy may very well end up being your "King APV"!
The provari is an excellent device. You can't sub ohm but I have had my first provari for about 2.5 years and my mini for about 4mos and have never had an issue with either and they are built like a tank. The price tag can be intimidating but if you are getting into vaping and want something that will last or if you are worried about durability, you can't go wrong with one but there are much less expensive options that get the job done also
ECF is a small portion of the vaping community. There are many vapers who don't know about forums such as this.
I have a friend whose first device was a ProVari based on what a coworker was using. She asked him; her told her & on her lunch break she bought one.
Personally I feel whatever works for someone should be all that matters--not a competition.
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Don't feel stupid. Good to see that you are doing your homework.
The point you mentioned about the special edition razor is a good one, and can relate to many things. An example is in the ProVari. Is the up charge for different LED color, or different finish make it "better"? If it makes the owner happy, then, yes, for them it is better.
I know I have went from the Joye 510 to eGo to eVic and now ProVari. Quality aside, with the ProVari being at the top, they all have their merits. Do I see myself straying from my ProVari? Not really...unless I want to play with sub-ohm cloud chasing, then I use a mech...or if I need stealth/portability, then I may want something smaller. So part of it IS what you want. For some, the fact that they prefer the box shape of the MVP over the tube shape of the ProVari/Vamo etc.
As for VV vs VW debate, again, other than ease of control changes, the power and head are th deciding factors. To me, VW is a great theory, and if it could be implemented correctly, and efficiently, is great - current offerings are great to overcome tolerances between heads, but leave a lot of compromises on the table. Think of the automatic transmission in the car- for simplicity, it works well, you get in, step on the gas, and go. On the other hand you have manual transmission, which may require some thought, and isn't automagic, but if you want the most efficiency, delivering the most power, and the ability to control the power exactly as you need it- nothing beats a manual transmission....but it's not for everyone.
I really need to blog my musings on VW sometime (I've posted it several times before), but the long and short of it is- VW looks good in the marketing print, but at this time, to implement it properly would not be cost effective, and leaves some bad behaviors as a consequence.
At the end of the day, though I agree with many, there shouldn't be any fighting or debate on which device is better than another, we should all be able to post experiences, and highlight which marketing "features" are legit, and which ones are fluff without the anger and hatred that always seem to make their way into these threads. Instead of fighting with each other we should be uniting and put the energy wasted fighting each other into fighting the powers that be that want to hurt vaping as a whole!
The point you mentioned about the special edition razor is a good one, and can relate to many things. An example is in the ProVari. Is the up charge for different LED color, or different finish make it "better"? If it makes the owner happy, then, yes, for them it is better.
I know I have went from the Joye 510 to eGo to eVic and now ProVari. Quality aside, with the ProVari being at the top, they all have their merits. Do I see myself straying from my ProVari? Not really...unless I want to play with sub-ohm cloud chasing, then I use a mech...or if I need stealth/portability, then I may want something smaller. So part of it IS what you want. For some, the fact that they prefer the box shape of the MVP over the tube shape of the ProVari/Vamo etc.
As for VV vs VW debate, again, other than ease of control changes, the power and head are th deciding factors. To me, VW is a great theory, and if it could be implemented correctly, and efficiently, is great - current offerings are great to overcome tolerances between heads, but leave a lot of compromises on the table. Think of the automatic transmission in the car- for simplicity, it works well, you get in, step on the gas, and go. On the other hand you have manual transmission, which may require some thought, and isn't automagic, but if you want the most efficiency, delivering the most power, and the ability to control the power exactly as you need it- nothing beats a manual transmission....but it's not for everyone.
I really need to blog my musings on VW sometime (I've posted it several times before), but the long and short of it is- VW looks good in the marketing print, but at this time, to implement it properly would not be cost effective, and leaves some bad behaviors as a consequence.
At the end of the day, though I agree with many, there shouldn't be any fighting or debate on which device is better than another, we should all be able to post experiences, and highlight which marketing "features" are legit, and which ones are fluff without the anger and hatred that always seem to make their way into these threads. Instead of fighting with each other we should be uniting and put the energy wasted fighting each other into fighting the powers that be that want to hurt vaping as a whole!
@Kuljit, SoonerChris & Train2: Thank you all very much.
I really shouldn't even imply that "I'll never buy a ProVari because it lacks VW and is very expensive". Who knows what the future may hold? I feel differently about some mods, mechs and RDAs now than I did a month ago, as I've learned a lot since then. And I'm confident I'll know more next month than I know now, as well.
On my short-term horizon is a Sigelei Zmax V5. But who's to say that I won't end up deciding to get myself a ProVari for my birthday this year (October)? Goodness knows I've spent "outside the normal bounds" for gadgets in the past.
Case in point: The year Die Another Day was released, Norelco had a sales promotion for their newest model of electric razor, which was featured in the movie (the one Bond was using in the Hong Kong hotel room around 20 minutes or so into the movie). The razor - their flagship product at the time - cost around $225, but you could pay some 40 bucks more to get a little, painted-on Die Another Day logo on the side of the razor. Not many people paid the premium for that. But, of course, being the Bond nut that I am, I did. Still have it to this day, in fact. It's 12 years old, and its battery is as strong as the day I bought it.
Now, I'm sure that the small bit of paint on the side of my electric razor has nothing to do with its reliability. But it is a very nice and well-built razor, and there's really no way to know how long any product you buy, whether cheap or expensive, will last until you live with it for a while.
The point is, aspects of a product that may not be important to some people can be quite important to others. From everything I've read, the ProVari is a top-shelf APV. And some people will consider the ProVari to be the "king" of APVs. For others, the Zmax may be the king. Or the Vamo. Or the Nemesis. And so on...
My recommendation is, before you spend upwards of $100 on a vaping device, do at least a few days worth of research and ask questions in a place such as this until you feel comfortable that your money will be well spent. Because what you buy may very well end up being your "King APV"!
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