Is Provari worth it? How big a premium must I pay for the very best equipment?

[MickeyRat]

The Provari won't save you a dime in consumables. It won't vape better than a $35 madvapes VV box. In some cases it won't vape as well. It does have superior fit and finish. It will feel like a quality device in your hand. If that's what you want and you're willing to pay for it, buy one.

It is not the universally acknowledged best. Right now, the Provari fans are just the loudest.

 

[Flyer]

This is great stuff! I really want to know more. We should have a separate thread so we can talk more about this. Vaping technology is exploding!

 

[Closetpan]

This Thread should be required reading before considering to buy a Provari. As I'm 4 month's into vaping have to admit it's being considered and I'm glad I took the time to read these posts.

 

[NancyR]

Here's my 2 cents on this. PV's like everything else is not a one size fits all, we all have different needs and or wants. The good news is once you figure out what those are there are a lot of options out there.

 

[Coolzero]

I am still pretty new with vaping and the devices, lavatube is the most expensive device i have bought and i cant really say its bad or good for that price, i think it was close to 70€ and as a student its a lot of money. People keep raising provari up and worship it and since i like lots of info, those menus etc are nice things but the cost oh dear.. there's no way i can buy it. So i turned in to modding side, i dont hink that i saw mentioning that you can build your own quite a lot cheaper than commercial devices. It might not be as fancy or good looking or have all the latest bells and whistles but it certainly is fun and you learn oh so much new things every time you start to make something and have to find info how to do something.
One i just made today costs roughly 20$ for parts, maybe less since i dont have prices per item, most are bulk. It vapes everything you can hook on it without twitching. I just did ptr (step-down) mod last week with 2 18650 batteries, tested it from thursday midday to sunday afternoon and i had vaped about 15ml with same 2 trustifire 18650 2400mAh batteries.

These are not much to look at and kinda big and i can't look at the nice numbers(ptr one has only battery volts/vaping volts display)but since i started making these for myself and done few with success and know how they work, i tell ya i don't need to pay 200$ to get same vapor with nice trinkets. This is still new to me and so new devices that i can't say how long they last, might be week or two or year but since i made it i can repair it. Provari seems to be best option if you want decent guarantee.

So thats just my point of view. There are many valid points made in this thread and if you got the money to spend, try different devices, but if you don't have or just don't want to spend money for "nothing", try to define what would it be that you want from vaping/devices. If you just want to stop smoking, eGo type will do just fine and you don't need to spend lots of money, for enjoyment i would say e-liquids are more important than the "best" device out there + they keeps getting better everyday.

 

[tj99959]

Ooops. wrong name. It's Nivel. VV OR VW, selectable. Here it is: Варивольт/вариватт «Nivel» (плата) ― SvoёMesto

And, here's the badass PV that's using it

And that's just one configuration out of about a couple hundred.
Варианты сборки мода ― SvoёMesto

The attys are rebuildable. The tanks, attys, controller and battery carrier are all modular. Makes a Provari look like a relic.

Did you know that you can buy the Nivel chip separately? Click-Bang got some and Mamu is doing a run of three mods (one for her, one for Click-Bang, and one that will be given away)

After reading the user guide, that thing has functions that most people would never find a need to use.
http://www.terrabyter-solutions.com/SvoeMesto/Nivel_VV-VW_Board_User_Guide_EN.pdf

 

[FRGMNT]

I have a Provari and I think it's an overrated device. I do have to say that it is built to last pretty much forever though.
If I didn't have one right now, I probably would just go with buying 2-3 Ego Twist batteries and be perfectly satisfied with that.

 

[ObsceneJesster]

The Provari isn't going to vape any better than the next mod. What it is going to do is likely outlast most other mods. That is what it's built for after all. You definitely see people having more problems with other mods. The Provari is a well built PV that exudes quality when placed in the hand. Immediately upon holding it, you know it is a quality piece of machinery. There is no doubt that the Provari can take a beating and keep on ticking. Is it the best? I don't think anyone can really say one particular mod is the best because there are a lot of good ones out there. Is it one of the best? Hell Yes!

 

[MickeyRat]

Did you know that you can buy the Nivel chip separately? Click-Bang got some and Mamu is doing a run of three mods (one for her, one for Click-Bang, and one that will be given away)[/img]

I've heard that but, the only price I've heard is around $70 and I can't find a source.

 

[readfreak]

If your worried about size don't. I just got my Provari today and at first I thought they sent me a mini. Its way smaller
than it looks in pictures even with the end cap on. I love it already but I suspect there are many mods out there that
work well. I wanted something very durable with long battery life that was varible voltage and had to save for it
but am really glad I did.

 

[sailorman]

Did you know that you can buy the Nivel chip separately? Click-Bang got some and Mamu is doing a run of three mods (one for her, one for Click-Bang, and one that will be given away)[/img]

I've heard that but, the only price I've heard is around $70 and I can't find a source.

The site that sells that mod is the only one I've seen that sells the chip as well. It was $92 the last time I checked. Click-bang posted a pic of his 3 chips and there was a Russian postmark on the package, so suspect that's where his came from.

 

[sailorman]

The Provari isn't going to vape any better than the next mod. What it is going to do is likely outlast most other mods. That is what it's built for after all. You definitely see people having more problems with other mods. The Provari is a well built PV that exudes quality when placed in the hand. Immediately upon holding it, you know it is a quality piece of machinery. There is no doubt that the Provari can take a beating and keep on ticking. Is it the best? I don't think anyone can really say one particular mod is the best because there are a lot of good ones out there. Is it one of the best? Hell Yes!

When you buy into a rapidly changing technology, how important is it that something outlast something else? If my Lavatube lasts a year, which is the warranty period, I'll be happy and I'll buy the latest whizz-bang device to replace it.

I learned my lesson when I bought a top-of-the-line computer for about $5000. It lasted alright. It lasted too long. It lasted so long that it was obsolete for 6 of the 8 years I had it. For the same amount of money, I could have had the latest technology every other year instead of using an outdated workhorse for 6 years.

Provape says they'll "update" the Provari for a reasonable charge. That's great as far as it goes. But they'll only be able to update it insofar as the architecture allows. When my $50 VV Lavatube dies in a year or two, I'll replace it with a $50-75 VW/VV model that'll have all the latest technology and improvements. In 4 or 5 years, I'll have spent as much as the Provari owner, but I won't be vaping on 4 or 5 year old technology.

 

[speedemon]

Heres my the provari is a steller mod woth the money to me.Can't believe how many will say that some of the cheaper vv's are just as goodMyself i have think the difference is huge.Other vv's i've owned drop in power threw battery life,don't tell the loaded power nore have some of the extra options and i'm pretty sure they won't last as long as a vari.

 

[sailorman]

Drop in power = insignificant unless you really need huge run times because it doesn't happen until the battery gets very low. For example, a Lavatube doesn't drop noticeably until 3.5V. If you have a 2250mah battery, that's like 14 hours, which is more time than you get with a standard Provari battery in the first place.

Doesn't tell the loaded power = Who cares?

Last as long = Some things last so long that they're obsolete for the majority of their lifetimes. I'm glad I didn't pay $200 for a super high quality Joye 510 e-cig that would have lasted 5 years. I'm glad I didn't buy one of those $50 510 atomizer/cartridge systems I saw that was supposed to last 2 years. It would have been obsolete halfway thorough it's life expectancy. I could have spent a lot on a super good Betamax camera or Minidisc player too. They were the best examples of devices in rapidly changing technologies. I'm glad I didn't.

Extra options? A resistance meter? I've got a fine DVM. It cost <$20 and does other stuff too.

 

[ObsceneJesster]

Sailorman, some people just enjoy having high end things. I have a little story for you. I've recommended a Lava Tube variation to not one, not two, not three but four of my co-workers who recently quit smoking and started vaping. All of them just started and the cost of a Provari or a Darwin can be very off putting. Mind you, none of these individuals started with stick batt kits. They all wanted to skip right to a mod after seeing me with mine. All of them eventually ordered Lava Tubes. Two of them purchased theirs through iVape.net and the other two purchased theirs through Volcano. One of them who ordered theirs through iVape came DOA. One of them dropped his from a standing position ONE TIME and it broke. You know how many times I've dropped my Provari on concrete. I have a habit of leaving the mod on my lap and getting up or out of the car only to have it hit the ground. I can't even count on two hands how many times I've dropped it. The other co-worker who purchased his Lavatube from Volcano had his die after 3 weeks. He sent it back to Volcano and they honored the warranty. He was without his mod for almost two weeks and had to use disposable e-cigs for the time being. He even went back to smoking analogs due to the disposable's not working well enough. In my opinion, this is the worst thing that could happen. Most of us do this to help us kick the habit (at least in the beginning). When problems arise, it becomes frustrating and in turn helps nobody in the quest to kicking the analog habit. To end this story, none of them use Lavatubes anymore. Three of them use Provari's and one of them went back to analogs. One of them had a Lavatube that worked fine and never broke. He just wanted to upgrade to a Provari because he said it looked nicer and felt better in his hand. He was also tired of having to up the Voltage as his battery drained.

I understand that technology is going to get better in the E-Cig world. Technology evolves in the electronics world. It always has and it always will. If anyone thinks otherwise, then they are naive. It doesn't mean people are going to stop purchasing high end products. This is the very same reason why I purchase a new phone every 6 months. I am a phone freak and I always want the next best thing. First I needed a dual core processor in my phone and now I need a quad core. It's just how the cookie crumbles.

By the way, I don't spend $3000 grand on a laptop because I think it's going to last 5 years. I spend 3 grand on one because I want a powerful PC with the best GPU/CPU money can buy at the time. I like playing PC games and if I spend 3 grand now, it will last me about two years before the technology gets that much better. I don't expect to get anymore life out of it. In turn, if I only spent $1000 on a laptop right now, I would be getting the same type of performance people were getting with their high end PC's one year ago.

Lastly, I understand you don't need the option of having a PV with a resistance meter because you have a DVM. I'd rather not carry anything more than I need while out and about. I carry about 10 filled cartomizers around with me in a case due to my flavor variation problem. I constantly forget the resistance for each one so it's nice to be able to check every now and then. It's just a small little feature that does come in handy.

 

[ladyb334]

I spent a lot of money trying to find the perfect pen style ecig. Was never satisfied with the pen style. One that I tried would activate in my purse and it melted the mouth piece. With the Provape 1, I have never had that problem. Really like all the safety features. Have recently moved up to the Provari mini. I honestly didn't think that a higher voltage would make much difference. But, was I ever surprised. Some flavors taste better at a lower setting and some better at a higher setting. Wished that I had bought the Provape to start out with. Would have saved some major bucks and would have been better satisfied. But, only you can determine whether it is worth it price wise. For me, it has been worth every penny or dollar. Maintenance is to me is actually easier than the pen style plus battery life is so much better.

Good luck and happy vaping.

 

[Closetpan]

The original poster of this message stated he had been vaping for 2 days. Those of us that have been vaping awhile, that have had products that haven't performed like we would want can appreciate quality built items. Seriously tho advising a person to buy a 200 dollar device to be introduced to vaping that as of yet most likely hasn't even figured out if he want's to drip, or have tank's or try bottom feeders seems a little outrageous. Especially with products out there like an Ego twist or a vari stack or numerous other items. Don't get me wrong following this thread I decided to buy a Provari, mainly due to some things that I'm not happy with my lavatube. Just out of the gate I don't think anyone should advise someone to purchase one of the more expensive items, not with some of the reliable options we have to introduce someone to vaping.

 

[bnrkwest]

I think for a new vaper try the Twist or ego VV's and see how they like VV vaping. If they love it, get a higher end one if they can afford it. One always needs back ups so Twist and ego VV's are great for that. I have a Provari and I love it, for out and about I use my VV Ego's and Twist. Works great! bnrk

 

[babemomlover]

I was almost in the same boat...

Almost two days after vaping my first gas station cigarette I knew it was for me.

I however, got a riva 1100 mAh option first.
It was cool and stuff i was just yearning for a provari since I got it
only took about a month before I said ....... it and ordered a provari.

If I went back to day one before I spent all this money, I would have gotten a provari, with 4 18650's the pila charger, one or two HH.357's, some phoenix bottom coils for at work, and I would have gotten many sampler packs from juice vendors.

Instead I have a bunch of equipment that I will either have to toss, trade, and around 100mL's of juice that has become un-vapeable to me.

 

[Closetpan]

We all have juice that we will never use and it's through trial and error we all find what we like. Some of my friends love BlueMist Juice, I can't stand it that's just me. I have friends that have been vaping well over a year on Ego style batteries and think I'm nuts with a Lavatube. That's there preference and eventually we all are purchasing different stuff and certain things we will not use again. Heck with all the Atty option's you will eventually buy something that you will not use. If you try all the option's between bottom feeders, dripping, cartomizer and clearomizers. With this many options you will eventually have a product that goes in the back of the drawer. It's unavoidable really and it's with that trial and error we all HOPEFULLY find that product that is right for us.