Issues with Hana Modz (Cana Mods) Clone DNA30

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mgmrick

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What would patent talk have to do with all the issues you search the internet to share with us (taken out of context at times) have to do with this thread? You continue to show your true colors. You know what they say..... no such thing as bad press... press is press. I don't figure your intent was to boost dna30 clones sales.

Enjoying the conversation.....at least there is a lot of substance in the videos to ponder on....new stuff coming, legal stuff, clone stuff, etc.

I too have been wanting to see a scope comparison and a comparison of the safety features. As mg... stated maybe somebody with a vested interest can stop by here and shed some light on the subject. I'll need to contact Evolv on a separate matter next week and if I remember I'll ask about their evaluations and comparison.

Kinda the take I got from the video (on that subject) was that it wasn't about competition between the dna and the clone but more about a quality comparison As John said the SX chipset was a well done product and the clone dna was not.

One of the things I picked up on was the short statements about Evolv's Patent. They had a Patent Pending for years that now evidently has been approved. That patent is for power regulation (variable wattage).
 

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One of the things I picked up on was the short statements about Evolv's Patent. They had a Patent Pending for years that now evidently has been approved. That patent is for power regulation (variable wattage).

Hmm, I wonder if Evolv will ever make a move with this patent. They could take out every SX mod on the market.
 

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The OP once again...

This thread is intended to provide a place to post any issues that may be happening with this device. Please just provide what you have experienced and pictures/videos of issues if desired. Please state which version you have (example: first release, second release, etc.)
 

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Hmm, I wonder if Evolv will ever make a move with this patent. They could take out every SX mod on the market.

Patents don't phase the Chinese at the best of times, a variable wattage patent by Evolv wouldn't have any effect on any country bar America.

Didn't Evolv say they like healthy competition?
 

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The OP once again...
This thread is intended to provide a place to post any issues that may be happening with this device. Please just provide what you have experienced and pictures/videos of issues if desired. Please state which version you have (example: first release, second release, etc.)

Mornin retird

Might be a good idea to post where they purchased it as well as a lot of users aren't sure what versions they have. I'm not sure what FT is selling.
 

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Patents don't phase the Chinese at the best of times, a variable wattage patent by Evolv wouldn't have any effect on any country bar America.

Didn't Evolv say they like healthy competition?

It's not a small thing to remove them from the US market. No US seller would be allowed to sell them, and shipments would be seized as they came in. Demand would dry up and Yihi would be forced to switch to VV.

They key word there is "healthy."
 

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On the other hand, controlling wattage (rather than voltage) into a resistive heating element has plenty of prior art, so that better not be the basis and primary claim of their patent(s). How do I know there's prior art? I designed stuff that did that for industrial furnaces back in the 1990s; those furnaces used heating elements made from materials that had dramatic resistance changes, both with temperature and the age of the element.
 

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On the other hand, controlling wattage (rather than voltage) into a resistive heating element has plenty of prior art, so that better not be the basis and primary claim of their patent(s). How do I know there's prior art? I designed stuff that did that for industrial furnaces back in the 1990s; those furnaces used heating elements made from materials that had dramatic resistance changes, both with temperature and the age of the element.

Patent US20130104916 - Electronic vaporizer that simulates smoking with power control - Google Patents
 

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OK -- if that patent were to withstand a vigorous challenge, then just about any other VW vaping product would be infringing on it.

This kinda makes me wonder if that's why Provape doesn't seem to be interested in making a VW device (no wanting to deal with a patent infringement claim from Evolv), and just how amicable the relationship between Evolv and Innokin really is, or at least how it started. One might speculate that the initial contact between them was a letter from Evolv to Innokin pointing out that some of Innokin's products (like the very popular MVP and VV V3) appeared to be infringing on that patent.

Still, I wonder whether that patent would withstand a vigorous challenge. The trouble with battles like that, especially when they're fought between relatively small companies, is that the only people who really win in the end are the attorneys.
 

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Deleting your post does not change anything. You just proved once again your true intention for posting every negative post you can find on the internet about this product. Every mod made has negative posts somewhere out there even the wholy grail usa made provari. Trying to scare potentional buyers is just over the top. My dna30 clone is used every single day for a good 17 hours of vaping without issue

It's too early.... sorry, I thought I was in another thread.... will edit out my post.....it doesn't belong here....

Please edit out my now deleted post from your reply, if you would be so kind....
 

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So what your saying is vw was out there for other applications and evolv used it and since they used it in an ecig they think they are entitled to a patent on it? Not a lawyer but that does not sound like that should fly....
I don't think so; my understanding is that the Evolv's Darwin was the first VW mod when it was introduced.

Other applications for VW driving heating elements? Absolutely, mucho prior art.
 

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So what your saying is vw was out there for other applications and evolv used it and since they used it in an ecig they think they are entitled to a patent on it?
Well, not a patent on VW per se, but a patent on the use of VW in an e-cig, yes.

Not a lawyer but that does not sound like that should fly....
Well fly it did, but I'm convinced it wouldn't crash in heavy weather (i.e. a vigorous court challenge).
 
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