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harekira

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I do have 4 GGTS, but also Odys for it... and of course AW 18650s with Kicks for them.
Well I guess that's another lesson learned. Maybe the Chinese are capable of putting out a 14500 VV device..., because spending 160€ x 2 = 320 € for an Air control ... PLUS 2 x 18 Euros for the adapters = over 450 $ ... my wife would kill me... (besides the Penelope on a GGTS looks like crap).
Maybe I tattoo some wings on some ProVari Minis...
 
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I've bought 2 Penelope (Proteus) because I'd liked the idea of a smaller VV device WITH Airflow control and an Ody like atomizer. Now what do I have - 2 great Penelopes WITHOUT any option of Airflow Control and VV that match the Penelope.
Imeo, you have disappointed not only me, but many people (customers) I know. I also now have 10 AW IMR 14500 batteries lying around (useless). Great job. Maybe next time, before you make such announcements ("VV with a 14500 is no problem at all") you should check the specifications first. What options do I have? Buy 2 GGTS so I can have an Airflow Option (after there is an adequate adapter)? Well, I think ... NOT

Why are you being so rude. Sure, we're all a bit disappointed. But to criticize a man who has given us such amazing products seems a bit rough. The guy does nothing but give and give.

Sell your batteries, sell your Penelope's and buy cheap crap that you can really complain about.
 

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I do have 4 GGTS, but also Odys for it... and of course AW 18650s with Kicks for them.
Well I guess that's another lesson learned. Maybe the Chinese are capable of putting out a 14500 VV device..., because spending 160€ x 2 = 320 € for an Air control ... PLUS 2 x 18 Euros for the adapters = over 450 $ ... my wife would kill me... (besides the Penelope on a GGTS looks like crap).
Maybe I tattoo some wings on some ProVari Minis...

You are paying for Quality though with those prices you quoted. There is a GGTB on the classifieds right now if you want something that the Penelope looks absolutely beautiful on. I however find that the Penelope looks stunning on the GGTS as well. If you want to go and purchase Chinese products that is your prerogative and by all means do so because..........

That means just One less person for me to have to compete with to get one.



Sorry Had to be said. This Bashing of a person who has done nothing but build some of the most beautiful and superbly functional and reliable Mods on the planet is getting on my nerves.

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This is going to be Posted in Two Places because there are two places where it needs to be stated due to some complaints directed towards IMEO.

IMEO takes great Pride in everything he does, this shows in the quality of the end products that he releases. They work the way they are designed to every time without exception in my experience. He does not use the consumer as a lab rat to test things to see IF they work, he tests them himself and with the help of perhaps a few select people who have offered to help him test his products. Not sure which but I do know that they are not sold until they have been tested and PROVEN to work the way they should.

This statement cannot be made about 99.9% of the Manufacturers out there of these devices so if something is a bit delayed because it did not pass QC.........

QUIT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT!!!!! It is a Benefit NOT a Drawback!!!

Sincerely and with the utmost respect to all;
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3 more pieces for the sample to be completed sour! I hope that in 2 days I will be ready. Machine shop delayed me a little

I am sure that if you like what they make you will show us Pictures?? :D I think most of us are already drooling over this new ingenious creation of yours, especially since it sounds to me like it will be the best of both Odysseus and Penelope all rolled into one :D

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@Darth Vapor:
I was just picking up something that Imeo himself stated: "Be sure that the most easy thing is to ask China to make me an electronic part for Proteus. There is no easier thing than that. But its like stealing people. I dont want to make them buy something that they can buy fron China for some dollars either. GG is not like this."
By the way .. L-Rider is putting out a 14500 VV device next month ...
But I will stick with the ProVari Mini (American instead of Chinese of course) for my Penelopes.
But thanks for your concerns anyway.
 

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I was just reading that sentence over and over again ... and I can't understand one thing:
Imeo said that the electronic parts for the Proteus were going to be produced in the U.S. and he awaits the shipping of those parts.
Now where is the difference between buying the parts from the Chinese or from the Americans.
The GG Proteus will be produced in Greece anyway ... so .. maybe someone could enlighten me?
 

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I've bought 2 Penelope (Proteus) because I'd liked the idea of a smaller VV device WITH Airflow control and an Ody like atomizer. Now what do I have - 2 great Penelopes WITHOUT any option of Airflow Control and VV that match the Penelope.
Imeo, you have disappointed not only me, but many people (customers) I know. I also now have 10 AW IMR 14500 batteries lying around (useless). Great job. Maybe next time, before you make such announcements ("VV with a 14500 is no problem at all") you should check the specifications first. What options do I have? Buy 2 GGTS so I can have an Airflow Option (after there is an adequate adapter)? Well, I think ... NOT
Wow, just read this. Its really a bit harsh don't you think? Imeo gave us the GGTS, the GGTB, the Ody and the Penelope, four of the best vaping devices ever. He produces them at reasonable prices, with outstanding quality and a lifetime warranty. I laud his efforts with the Proteus and if he was enthusiastic about it so what, he's earned the right to speak.
Why don't you cut him a little slack?
 

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I was just reading that sentence over and over again ... and I can't understand one thing:
Imeo said that the electronic parts for the Proteus were going to be produced in the U.S. and he awaits the shipping of those parts.
Now where is the difference between buying the parts from the Chinese or from the Americans.
The GG Proteus will be produced in Greece anyway ... so .. maybe someone could enlighten me?


The Biggest Difference is quality control, here in the US we have extremely Strict standards and tolerances for producing things. that is why often they cost more, we do not use cheap labor, we make a good living for what we do because although we may not make it as fast or as mass produced. We try everything possible to perfect everything we do. So if it is made here in the US and it does not pass IMEO's specifications, then he will not buy it and will send it back for another try until it does.

This is what makes the GG Different, this is what makes the GG Product line Unique and in such High Demand. It is the very tight and strict perfectionism that goes into the devices that makes them as good as they are.

When Proteus comes out, when it has passed the test in IMEO's eyes, everyone who complains about them now will be thanking him for it then.

MARK MY WORDS they WILL Thank him for waiting until it is right before putting it out for us.

Nate aka Darth Vapor
 

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I am a fan of GG products (otherweise I wouldn't have almost every piece Imeo produced, not only one but several!), but I am also a customer, and I certainly wouldn't have bought the Penelope without the Proteus (as many others also wouldn't have). I registered for the package, not for a single item.
Why not at least build an adapter with a 510 connection with a simple Airflow control (like the one on the GGTS) for the Penelope? At least then everyone who owns a Penelope can have the benefit of an atomiser with AirFlow control and put it on any device he wants (VV or anything else)?
As I understand it, the prototype for the Proteus was already finished, except for the VV module. So Imeo mustn't invent the wheel once again.
 
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I've bought 2 Penelope (Proteus) because I'd liked the idea of a smaller VV device WITH Airflow control and an Ody like atomizer. Now what do I have - 2 great Penelopes WITHOUT any option of Airflow Control and VV that match the Penelope.
Imeo, you have disappointed not only me, but many people (customers) I know. I also now have 10 AW IMR 14500 batteries lying around (useless). Great job. Maybe next time, before you make such announcements ("VV with a 14500 is no problem at all") you should check the specifications first. What options do I have? Buy 2 GGTS so I can have an Airflow Option (after there is an adequate adapter)? Well, I think ... NOT



Sure.
Waiting for REAL things that works ok.
 

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I am a fan of GG products (otherweise I wouldn't have almost every piece Imeo produced, not only one but several!), but I am also a customer, and I certainly wouldn't have bought the Penelope without the Proteus (as many others also wouldn't have). I registered for the package, not for a single item.
Why not at least build an adapter with a 510 connection with a simple Airflow control (like the one on the GGTS) for the Penelope? At least then everyone who owns a Penelope can have the benefit of an atomiser with AirFlow control and put it on any device he wants (VV or anything else)?
As I understand it, the prototype for the Proteus was already finished, except for the VV module. So Imeo mustn't invent the wheel once again.

You consistently say "Many Others". If there are so many then where are they? I see a Lot of us defending him and you and few others questioning the fact that it is not yet ready. I want it to be Perfect as everything else he does is when it comes out.

Lets say you did not buy the Penelope when you did, okay so you wait and miss out on Penelope, then you have to try and find one somewhere and most likely pay twice as much as you would have just ordering it up front.

Be thankful that you have the one or more that you do so when the Proteus does come out you will already have half of the pair. A lot of folks will not have them as you and I do.

Be patient Fellow GG Owner, it will pay off in the end, you KNOW it will.
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I am a fan of GG products (otherweise I wouldn't have almost every piece Imeo produced, not only one but several!), but I am also a customer, and I certainly wouldn't have bought the Penelope without the Proteus (as many others also wouldn't have). I registered for the package, not for a single item.
Why not at least build an adapter with a 510 connection with a simple Airflow control (like the one on the GGTS) for the Penelope? At least then everyone who owns a Penelope can have the benefit of an atomiser with AirFlow control and put it on any device he wants (VV or anything else)?
As I understand it, the prototype for the Proteus was already finished, except for the VV module. So Imeo mustn't invent the wheel once again.

Not really sure why you so mad.
First of, the Penelope is an awesome device that you can use and enjoy on almost any 510 mod, not only the GG . I used mine on the Provari, on the caravela ( which is an awesome set up) on the GG stealth etc etc. I have the Penelope base to use on the GG with the air control and its great but not a necessary or a must .

Imeo is going out of his way to make us all happy, answer questions, respond to PM's, listen to our needs in order to keep us happy.
I think he is truly a great individual and an supreb manufacture/mod designer/creator, so what if it takes longer or not going to happen at all.

I'm sure you can sell your Penelope's and batts in less then 10 minutes for what you paid or more.
In fact, send me a pm and I will buy it from you.

Pretty soon we will have a new atty tank and some Penelope bases along with stealth and lots of GG parts, don't know about you but I'm extremely happy and appreciative .
 
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You make a very good Point Kickitback. I too am very very excited about the Ithaka.

I did get a Penelope in the hopes that the more slender Proteus would soon follow. You know what?? It isn't following as quickly as originally anticipated. SO WHAT!!!! does it bother me??? No It doesn't, not one bit, oh yeah and I too am a Customer As Well, a Very Very Satisfied customer. Regardless of whether or not things come out "On Time", at least I know for certain that when the DO come out the will be what I expect them to be.

You know there are a LOT of devices out there that run on 14500's that would more than suffice in the interim as a suitable match to the Penelope so it is not hard to find something to put it on and still get a smaller device to carry around with you if you really must have one, and most of them are also very nice, they are just not GG Nice.

I for one am willing to wait as long as it takes for Proteus to come out.

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You know...I dont want to get in this.nm.
edit...Yes I do. We are pretty fortunate to have what we have here. What would it be like if Imeo were more like ....(not say his name but remember when UKvapers got shut down).Imeo takes care of us well.There are millions of peeps out there who dont even know what a GG/mod/ecig/pv...etc is.We happen to be lucky enough to own 1 (or in most cases several if not a plethera) GG product. Yet upset that one that has been anticipated may or may not show up in our posetion soon enough. I think lets relax here and take it easy. If it happens great..if not there will probably be a next thing.
 
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