Janty Mid - VV/VW, software and joystick

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It's a fail. Good god it doesn't have a screen! How the hell are you supposed to say change it from 4.7 volts to 5.2 or 9 watts to 9.5 if you are not connected to a computer?

Maybe by haptic feedback or perhaps a changing tone representing wattage. Heck, I could find a lil song that fits my vaping profile!

Get 4 or 5 of us together under that scenario and we could totally rock out!
 

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It's a fail. Good god it doesn't have a screen! How the hell are you supposed to say change it from 4.7 volts to 5.2 or 9 watts to 9.5 if you are not connected to a computer?

There are a few ways. The device holds four profiles, so you can have four different sets of voltages or wattages. The real-time vaping featuring allows you to increase or decrease as needed; you can said a low and high voltage/wattage limit range so that it's only within the numbers you normall vape at.

I've been using a production model for a week and there's definitely a learning curve. It's a really different type of vaping device and I love how bold Janty is being with it. That said, it's definitely not for everyone. I'm certain that some people will love and some people will hate the connectivity aspect.
 

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There are a few ways. The device holds four profiles, so you can have four different sets of voltages or wattages. The real-time vaping featuring allows you to increase or decrease as needed; you can said a low and high voltage/wattage limit range so that it's only within the numbers you normall vape at.

I've been using a production model for a week and there's definitely a learning curve. It's a really different type of vaping device and I love how bold Janty is being with it. That said, it's definitely not for everyone. I'm certain that some people will love and some people will hate the connectivity aspect.

It sounds like you have to add four profiles, then memorize the color code for each. The whole point of vw for me is that I can just click, see the setting on a screen, and vape. Not having a screen is a deal breaker for me. Also - I like having an ohms check and battery voltage check - which the Mid doesn't appear to have.
 

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It sounds like you have to add four profiles, then memorize the color code for each.

When you switch profiles, the LED blinks the number of times that correspond to the profile number. 1 blink = profile #1, 2 blinks = profile #2, etc. The color is up to you.

The whole point of vw for me is that I can just click, see the setting on a screen, and vape. Not having a screen is a deal breaker for me.

I'm sure it will be a deal breaker for a lot of people.

Also - I like having an ohms check and battery voltage check - which the Mid doesn't appear to have.

That app has both. It's a pretty interesting piece of software.
 

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It looks to me this thing was more amazing before the evic came out.

They seem to have taken a few steps backwards

I was thinking that initially, but after using it that comparison doesn't hold. It's not really comparable to the eVic. It's pretty unique. The eVic lets you do more on the device, while the app doesn't do much. The MiD One's device controls are limited, but the app is much more powerful. It's a mistake to think about it in relation to the eVic, but I completely understand that a lot of people will. Janty definitely has a challenge on its hands in terms of explaining and marketing the device.
 

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It looks to me this thing was more amazing before the evic came out.

They seem to have taken a few steps backwards

The screen and ring really make the evic so easy to use now with the new software update. They may have the computer program but you only have to use it to update software. It now has probably the best screen/interface of any device I have used with the combo of all the information and on the fly changing of volts/watts, what's on the home screen and being able to change from volts to watts without going into a menu.

Now you want to sell me something for more money with a joystick, some simon says lights and a odd battery size....nah...you keep it.
 

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When you switch profiles, the LED blinks the number of times that correspond to the profile number. 1 blink = profile #1, 2 blinks = profile #2, etc. The color is up to you.

Yes, but my point is you have to remember which profile is what blinks/color. I'm not going to keep track of that when I'm out and about. It seems this would limit my options - I can use four profiles but don't have the full range of watts to choose from on the fly - I have four choices?

That app has both. It's a pretty interesting piece of software.

How do you do an ohms or battery voltage check with the Mid?
 
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I don't think that remembering just 4 profile colors would be all that hard:2c:. Even if it had a screen, it would just allow you to choose from 1 of 4 profiles; you would still have to remember what they actually do. And from what I gather, you can boost/lower the wattage on the fly.

As far as the battery check and ohms check - it seems you would have to be connected to a computer; not a good selling point for me. Maybe they could make a smart phone app for it - with bluetooth as a connect!

Are the batteries really proprietary? Or just their branded labels? Proprietary would definitely be a fail for me.

I do, however, think that the ability to create a profile in which you can adjust the voltage/watts over a range of time could be an interesting feature.

Edit: Seems that they are having some problems, though:http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/381849-janty-mid-delayed-further.html#post8656618
 
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I don't think that remembering just 4 profile colors would be all that hard:2c:. Even if it had a screen, it would just allow you to choose from 1 of 4 profiles; you would still have to remember what they actually do. And from what I gather, you can boost/lower the wattage on the fly.

Its not that hard, but sometimes I am quite busy and I don't want to think was 8 watts 3 light blinks or four? I just want to set it and forget it. I'm not wanting 4 profiles with a screen, I want the whole variable wattage range its capable of accessible by a screen, or a marked wheel would do it. As for adjusting the volts/watts on the fly - how would some-one know what those are? They have made it more complex than it needs to be I think.
Needing to have it connected to a computer to check battery voltage is another deal breaker for me if that's true. That's no use to me when I'm at a cafe, or out some places and want to check the battery before I get in the car and drive.
Creating profiles is something that users can already do with the Evic - and even tailor a profile. So the Mid is not ground breaking with that.
I like the form factor - but that's about it at the moment.
 
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As far as the battery check and ohms check - it seems you would have to be connected to a computer; not a good selling point for me. Maybe they could make a smart phone app for it - with bluetooth as a connect!

An Android app is in the works. Strangely, there hasn't been mention of an iOS app yet.

Are the batteries really proprietary? Or just their branded labels? Proprietary would definitely be a fail for me.

It can uses different types of batteries, not just the MiD-branded ones, which are 16340s. It can operate on a single battery as well.
 

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Yes, but my point is you have to remember which profile is what blinks/color. I'm not going to keep track of that when I'm out and about. It seems this would limit my options - I can use four profiles but don't have the full range of watts to choose from on the fly - I have four choices?

Like I said before, there's also the real-time vaping feature. While I do understand that some people might find four choices limiting, I also wonder how many different settings people use and how broad a range they use. I'm sure there are some people that do change settings often and broadly, but I would bet that most vapers don't.

How do you do an ohms or battery voltage check with the Mid?

It's through the app. One of the screens shows you, in real time, wattage, voltage, resistance, battery life, etc.

MiD One screen.jpg
 

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Like I said before, there's also the real-time vaping feature.

What exactly is the "real time vaping feature" RPAd? How do you change watts? How do you know what watts you've changed to, or choose what watts you want to change to? (Not using the profiles).

And having to do an ohms check or battery check hooked up to the computer - fail.
 

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What exactly is the "real time vaping feature" RPAd? How do you change watts? How do you know what watts you've changed to, or choose what watts you want to change to? (Not using the profiles).

The real-time vaping feature lets you raise wattage/voltage by pulling up on the joystick and lower wattage/voltage by pushing down. You can set a minimum and maximum range so that it only goes as high and low as you want it to. For example, I could set a profile at 8 watts and set the device threshold for 7 watts minimum and 10 watts maximum. Pressing the firing button gives me 8 watts. Pulling up on the joystick increases it up to 10. You can set the speed of how fast the wattage increases too and can stop pulling the joystick (while still pressing) to keep it at the wattage that tastes good to you.

I hope I explained that well, but fear I did a bad job. It's a pretty interesting feature that's hard to explain, and I'm still wondering how well it will be received. Janty equated it with smoking tobacco cigarettes; you have your normal drag, but sometimes takes short puffs or long, deep drags. So far, I think the company has done a good job mimicking that.
 

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The real-time vaping feature lets you raise wattage/voltage by pulling up on the joystick and lower wattage/voltage by pushing down. You can set a minimum and maximum range so that it only goes as high and low as you want it to. For example, I could set a profile at 8 watts and set the device threshold for 7 watts minimum and 10 watts maximum. Pressing the firing button gives me 8 watts. Pulling up on the joystick increases it up to 10. You can set the speed of how fast the wattage increases too and can stop pulling the joystick (while still pressing) to keep it at the wattage that tastes good to you.

I hope I explained that well, but fear I did a bad job. It's a pretty interesting feature that's hard to explain, and I'm still wondering how well it will be received. Janty equated it with smoking tobacco cigarettes; you have your normal drag, but sometimes takes short puffs or long, deep drags. So far, I think the company has done a good job mimicking that.

That's sounds interesting now you've explained it. It sounds like it would be fun to play with, but I don't think I'd want to use it heavily like that. I could imagine taking it out somewhere for a few hours - but then there's no battery check. Edit: Well I've discovered there is - you have to count the no. of light blinks though.
 
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VapourTrails TV just did a very long look at the Janty MiD. It starts about 20 minutes in ... Conclusion: it's utter pants and a total dog's dinner.

Watched it. I see what you mean. I had thought it might be ok for out for a few hours, but no. Apart from the confusing no. of clicks left or right, there's the time you'd have to spend counting the blinks just to know resistance or batt voltage. They could quite easily fit a small screen on there instead of the small light screen. I hope they consider making that change.
 
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