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Joye 510 Cartomizer (from FSUSA) Review and Comparison
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I wasn't entirely sure if my Ego was JOYETECH until I just noticed that on my little booklet that came in the box it says,
"Please USE only Joyetech series products including liquids, chargers, and adapters."
In any sense, what I mean when I say a burnt taste is one that is harsh and almost the very same instant that I press the button.
On the Ego 3.7 this wasn't the case, but the flavor was severely lacking when compared to the older 510 JT cartomizers. They do however produce a ton of vapor as I mentioned in my initial post.
I noticed other individuals in this thread mention that they had used theirs via a 5v passthru and had no problems. But the moment I try to use anything higher than 3.7 (passthru, BUZZ - Little sister is broken so can't try that) I end up with the harsh and burnt taste right off the bat. Mine are having the same problem that the E2 ceramic carto's were doing at anything higher than 3.7v. And when I say harsh burn, I mean enough to hurt my throat and cause me to choke a bit.
The fact that others didn't experience this simply makes me wonder if there was just something the matter with mine. But beyond that I am at a loss in figuring out where the problem is coming from.
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With T's posts, any liquid in your mouth will get spit out all over your monitor due to laughing.
We don't drink our e-liquids either. We usually vape it. Occasionally, we inject it!
I just wanted to poke fun at my mother.
When she first started vaping she Email'ed me about one flavor of E-Juice and said she was tempted to drink it because she even liked the way it smelled.
Likewise, I sent a reply urging that she not take this course of action. Even though I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have actually done so in the first place.
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Hi bsoplinger. I've fried a couple 510 cartos recently and your post got me to thinking.
I cranked my Buzz way down to 3v and put a 510 carto on it. I filled the carto two days ago so its had plenty of time to sit and soak up the e-juice. At 3v I get a decent cloud of vapor and lots of taste. I could probably run the voltage up a bit, but this is pretty good where I have it.
I'm not getting any burnt taste and the shell of the carto isn't getting hot. It appears the 510 cartos just don't like a lot of power under them.
I'm using a 510 carto on just a regular 510 battery atm. I'm letting my eGo rest atm because I just refilled the mega carto with hopscotch.. The 510 carto is filled with Purecig that's about 6 weeks aged. It's tasting so similar to an analog that I almost feel kind of naughty.
That would make sense, since they're made specifically for the 3.2ish voltage of the genuine Joye products. With that said, I've never had a problem with them on my 5V passthru either.
Hot dang, I finally did something that made sense and my old buddy upStomp said so! I'm just so proud of me! I'm so excited! I have to go pee.
That makes sense too, Tex! You should never get too excited without taking a moment to relieve yourself.
2 for 2!
Very good, and helpful, review. I used KR808 cartos a couple years ago and it just didn't do it for me...enough so that I gave up vaping until a couple weeks ago. I just got some 510 cartos in the mail today, so I'm happy to hear that I didn't make a mistake by not going with the boges first. Thanks!
Oh man upStomp, you've got me LOL'ing so hard my sides are aching!
Glad I could help! This thread went so whonky, I keep forgetting it was originally a review - and my review to boot. Now I know why people at work remind me why I should never go into project management.
Thanks, Tex. Pee-pee jokes haven't always been my strong suit. And, even now, it takes a bit of inspiration.
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More arrived as I decided to give them another chance. These ones I really do like, and they are supposed to be the same ones I ordered the first time. So its quite possible the first ones I had were a bad batch.
I've even gone back and forth with the ones that just arrived and one of the ones from the first order and there is a huge difference.
So, I like these a lot now.
More arrived as I decided to give them another chance. These ones I really do like, and they are supposed to be the same ones I ordered the first time. So its quite possible the first ones I had were a bad batch.
I've even gone back and forth with the ones that just arrived and one of the ones from the first order and there is a huge difference.
So, I like these a lot now.
I've noticed some physical differences between batches of these cartos (I believe some came from a different vendor). The vent chamber on my original order from FSUSA is wide open, with a large "D" shaped opening next to the fill port. The boxes I've opened recently have a closed vent chamber with just a small hole for airflow. These seem to be less reliable - 1 being DOA, some completely die after 1 day. Again, I don't think the ones with the closed chamber came from FSUSA.
I have no idea if there was a revision at some point, or if one of these iterations is a knock-off.
I have no idea if there was a revision at some point, or if one of these iterations is a knock-off.
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I can't say whether you ended up with knockoffs, not knowing where you bought them, but I've bought all of mine from the same vendor who is a genuine Joyetech vendor and sells only their hardware, no "compatible" stuff. I've been using the genuine Joye cartomizers since they came out, and I can confirm that the more recent ones are different in several ways. As you mention, there is now a small circular air shaft as opposed to the larger D shape on the older ones. Close examination will show that the barrier piece that plugs the fill port now has a smaller nipple that fits into the fill port. I don't know if the fill port is smaller because I don't have them in front of me right now. The mouthpiece on the older ones had two flanges that nest inside the cylinder of the carto, whereas the newer mouthpieces have two longer and two smaller flanges for a total of four. The hole in the mouthpiece of the newer ones is slighter smaller. The threads of the newer ones fit more snugly into the battery, almost too snug. I don't know if there are changes in the atomizer or wicking, but I also noticed that they don't seem to last as long or be as consistent as the older models. I know Joyetech partners with different companies in different countries, so they may have come from totally different countries of manufacture. Whether the newer ones are the new standard or they are simply different batches from different places remains to be seen. I was told by the vendor in question when I asked her about it that she knows they are assembled by hand, not machines, so there are going to be some variances in consistency. But the physical differences I just cited are not attributed to that factor.
Despite the apparent lesser longevity and consistency, I think I like the newer ones better because they are less prone to flooding in the mouthpiece, because of the much smaller air shaft between atomizer and mouthpiece. This definitely makes refilling them by dripping into the metal tip less likely to flood the mouthpiece. And the draw is a little firmer with the smaller mouthpiece, which should make them perform better with automatic batteries. Although the vast majority of us here in this forum prefer manual batteries, I am convinced that automatic 510 batteries and pre-filled cartomizers are what the vast majority of the mainstream public will want, as evidenced by the popularity of those types of devices in retail outlets so far. If Joye is going to compete with Blu and Green Smoke, that's what they will need to offer.
Thanks, SR. It's good to know they're probably not knock-offs. I got that batch from a vendor I very much like, and I'd hate to think they'd try to slip one past me.
I can also confirm that the fill port is indeed smaller. I used to be able to slip an 18g blunt tip in no problem. With the new configuration, I essentially have to fill by pressing against the opening, as opposed to sliding the needle through.
I agree, the draw and the initial consistency seems to be better, but longevity and overall reliability seem drastically reduced. I'll know better as we go through more of them. We've only gotten through one box so far (1 DOA), so it's tough to make a definitive call.
I can also confirm that the fill port is indeed smaller. I used to be able to slip an 18g blunt tip in no problem. With the new configuration, I essentially have to fill by pressing against the opening, as opposed to sliding the needle through.
I agree, the draw and the initial consistency seems to be better, but longevity and overall reliability seem drastically reduced. I'll know better as we go through more of them. We've only gotten through one box so far (1 DOA), so it's tough to make a definitive call.
My last order for 510 cartos came from FSUSA and have the small circular air shaft as opposed to the larger D shape on the older ones.
Everything I have batty-wise is 808 (Buzz, manual batty's) and I use 510 adapters. The one thing that I've noticed with the last 510 cartos were threading issues. Some go on the adapters with no problem and others I have to fight and a few just simply will not go on them.
Everything I have batty-wise is 808 (Buzz, manual batty's) and I use 510 adapters. The one thing that I've noticed with the last 510 cartos were threading issues. Some go on the adapters with no problem and others I have to fight and a few just simply will not go on them.
Thanks, Tex. I guess we can chalk it up to growing pains for this model carto. I hope the consistency stabilizes soon. At the rate we're eating through this revision, we'll need to order more in a week or so. They're still the best vaping carto I've tried (that sounds wrong - "as opposed to what? A jogging carto?").
I'm trying to use my 1 functional atty as much as possible to put off placing another order, but I'd forgotten to dewick it prior to breaking it in last week and it's really starting to sour. It's next to impossible to get all those frickin' threads out once they've been used for a bit.
I'm trying to use my 1 functional atty as much as possible to put off placing another order, but I'd forgotten to dewick it prior to breaking it in last week and it's really starting to sour. It's next to impossible to get all those frickin' threads out once they've been used for a bit.
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