Joyetech Evic VT 60 Watt
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Whoops. Thought I was at the end of the thread, info was already posted and discussed. Disregard.
Not sure that not letting people use it below 30 watts in temp mode is a smart choice at all. I think many people use less in temp mode. On my SX I rarely go over 30 Joules, which I equate to watts to a degree. Have no problems getting to 450 degrees at 20 and 25 Joules. Right now I am set at 500 degrees and 25 Joules with my Lemo Drop (temp hovers around 460 when I am drawing on it). It's not a deal breaker for me. I could see it being one to some though.
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For some reason I think they are recommending 30+ but something was lost in translation. (surely they don't expect everyone to vape that hot) If it truly won't go lower I don't imagine PBusardo would've given it that optimist first impression.
I hope that is just the case. Limiting people to 30 to 60 seems strange, although the reasoning might of been touched on earlier in the thread. Guess we shall see as more reviews come rolling in.
If it's temp limiting they are most likely talking about the initial power sent to the coil. Kind of like Evolv does their preheat with 40watts. But since it's temp limiting it will not continue to fire at 30watts, it will use some form of power modulation to keep temp at the set point. So I wouldn't read too much into this and until we see it do something different, it sounds like it following temp limiting methods from other manufacturers that actually work very well.
Reviews I have seen clearly state that the device runs between 30 and 60 watts in temp mode. That is an incredibly bone head design decision IMO. I would have bought one as a backup but unless that issue is addressed, I'm out.
And every one of those reviews is reading that out of the translated manual.
But it's not going to maintain 30-60watts during firing, otherwise it wouldn't be temp limit. It's maintaining temp, not power. So I wouldn't be concerned about this unless for some reason it turns out it can't maintain temp. Most likely, the 30 to 60watt range just means the preheat value and if that's the case it is nice that you will be able to set that so you can tailor the amount of power it take to get the coil to temp. Just to put it in perspective, the DNA40 fires at 40watts initially as a preheat, and that value is not adjustable, but as soon as temp is reached it reduces power to whatever value is needed to maintain temp. The SX350J has 4 different preheat values you can choose from for the same reason. I can't imagine this will be any different except that you will be able to set that value anywhere between 30 and 60 watts to fit your needs, and it sounds like it might work very well.
And maybe you're being a little hasty too. In TC mode, why do you need to directly control every erg of energy going to the coil? That's what the mod is supposed to do for you once you select your temperature.
Rest assured, it WILL modulate power below 30 watts as needed to maintain your desired temperature. It's not going to melt your drip tip or sear your lungs.
But that mandatory 30w minimum does something I think is hugely important for new TC users that both Evolv and Yihi dropped the ball on...
IT MAKES THEM DISCARD THEIR KANTHAL EXPERIENCE.
Seriously. There's a group of vapers out there that are so used to doing things the same way, that they won't step outside the box unless forced. Took months to convince folks that spaced coils were the way to go with TC, for instance, and those were the bleeding edge early adopters. This new crop of mass-market TC users is going to be behind that curve.
The "tootle puffers" will be afraid to set wattage above 15w, because that's as high as they dared go with Kanthal tanks. You see them in every single TC device thread wondering why they don't get good results from TC builds/prebuilts, because they're still in that Kanthal mindset and aren't setting the proper (high enough) wattage. They're not taking into account that they're trying to fire what amounts to a super sub ohm load instead of the 1.5 ohm (average) loads they're used to powering, and then wonder why it doesn't perform.
Preheat features can help somewhat with this, but starting with an overly low wattage setting is the root of many of their problems.
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Sounds logical to me, and much better than I would've explained it I'm sure. With my SX M and a new build, I set the temp high, drop the Joules to about 10 to 15, and fire it to see where the temp levels out. If it levels at 450, I then set it to 450 as my temp. Then I will usually set the Joules to where it stays right under where I have the temp set while I draw on it. Not scientific at all, but it works for me every time.
I'm glad you guys covered that, I was ready to pounce!
I'm still going with the "lost in translation" excuse. I'm betting (hoping) it performs flawlessly
I'm still going with the "lost in translation" excuse. I'm betting (hoping) it performs flawlessly
I have no doubt that it will work good. I just want to see more reviews, and get a better idea of that Yellow/Orange color. Plus, I'm not into the whole preorder thing. I can wait it out...usually.
I'll reserve judgment until units are shipping and reviewed. But I must admit I'm excited to see what Joyetech has done with this mod.
I have had several Joyetech products and do feel they produce good original first class technology. They are not perfect, but I always consider them when making a new purchase.
It's way more orange than yellow. There's a good shot on Nick's (GrimmGreen) IG page, a nice outside shot that shows the color really well.
The Joyetech eVic-VT manual can be found here:
http://www.joyetech.com/support/down_ma.php?bid=manual&BNo=63&k=4
http://www.joyetech.com/support/down_ma.php?bid=manual&BNo=63&k=4
He screwed up a bit there. Hot coil on a different device, and he didn't lock resistance either.
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