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[oedo808]

I did a dual horizontal 20 Guage nano coil build on my kayfun 3.1 on Thursday with cotton wrapped around the coils instead of inside (got my ramie in the mail after building it and wanted to use a sweet flavor which I haven't been able to do with hemp without first going through a tank of a strong tobacco to get rid of the extra flavor).

The airflow was awful as it was completely blocked off by cotton due to the around the coil wrapping. I finally shoved the syringe needle I used to wrap the coils from the bottom through the airhole to make a hole in the cotton and the thing has been my favorite build I've ever had on a kayfun. It burns through a tank of 100% VG ridiculously fast and I'm on something like my 5th tank on this cotton so I'm sure it's about time to clean it. My plan is to hopefully have my ramie treated for use before I have to rewick so I can try it instead of cotton. I thought I remembered you saying that the fiber would stick/wrap really well, better than hemp anyways.

Will it work with a vertical micro or nano coil? If so I'll be able to use it with these coils for sure.

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[BJ43]

I did a dual horizontal 20 Guage nano coil build on my kayfun 3.1 on Thursday with cotton wrapped around the coils instead of inside (got my ramie in the mail after building it and wanted to use a sweet flavor which I haven't been able to do with hemp without first going through a tank of a strong tobacco to get rid of the extra flavor).

The airflow was awful as it was completely blocked off by cotton due to the around the coil wrapping. I finally shoved the syringe needle I used to wrap the coils from the bottom through the airhole to make a hole in the cotton and the thing has been my favorite build I've ever had on a kayfun. It burns through a tank of 100% VG ridiculously fast and I'm on something like my 5th tank on this cotton so I'm sure it's about time to clean it. My plan is to hopefully have my ramie treated for use before I have to rewick so I can try it instead of cotton. I thought I remembered you saying that the fiber would stick/wrap really well, better than hemp anyways.

Will it work with a vertical micro or nano coil? If so I'll be able to use it with these coils for sure.

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It will work anywhere cotton worked and IMO better...

 

[oedo808]

Excellent. Has anyone else tried the ramie top from woolery? If not I'll make sure to post my thoughts. Right now it looks like a bag of very long strong silky looking fibers sort of organized together instead of in clumps or whatnot.

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[oedo808]

Actually it looks just like the picture on the site just in a bigger bag with what looks like extremely long fibers:

Ramie Top - 8oz. (China Grass) | The Woolery

Is that how yours came? I've previously only worked with hemp organized in twine and cotton balls. I'm trying to think of the best way to attack this thing and I guess it would be cut off a decent sized portion and either wash it with dish soap like I did the hemp or use Oxyclean. It just seems less convenient than the twine but not complaining, just trying to form a plan of attack

 

[BJ43]

Actually it looks just like the picture on the site just in a bigger bag with what looks like extremely long fibers:

Ramie Top - 8oz. (China Grass) | The Woolery

Is that how yours came? I've previously only worked with hemp organized in twine and cotton balls. I'm trying to think of the best way to attack this thing and I guess it would be cut off a decent sized portion and either wash it with dish soap like I did the hemp or use Oxyclean. It just seems less convenient than the twine but not complaining, just trying to form a plan of attack

Same as mine. Each setup is a little different. On the verticals I just wrap some around the coils and stuff the empty space. Horizontal thru the coil, I take a bunch of strands about 3 times the diameter of the coil, wrap the end tight with my fingers wet with juice and thread it thru the coils.

 

[oedo808]

Letting my ramie dry after washing in dish detergent and boiling in distilled water a few times. I can't really smell it right now which I think is good as I can't smell cotton but I can hemp. Kind of excited to try some tomorrow! I have a squape clone waiting to be rewicked

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[BobC]

What do you think about this stuff?

Ramie Top Fiber Combed Spin Roving 8 Oz | eBay

 

[silverbullit]

What do you think about this stuff?

Ramie Top Fiber Combed Spin Roving 8 Oz | eBay

Yep. That's the stuff, but good golly, that's a lot.

 

[BobC]

Yep. That's the stuff, but good golly, that's a lot.

If you saw how much hemp fiber I have, you wouldn't think so

 

[BJ43]

If you saw how much hemp fiber I have, you wouldn't think so

Lol. a kilo of fiber is a whole bunch...

 

[oedo808]

Lmao, indeed. I have 8oz and only prepped maybe an Oz to try. For $20? I mean that's the price of an FT atomizer and I have too many already so no big deal, I'd rather drop the $ on a potentially better wicking material.

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[gdeal]

OK BJ...finally tried the Ramie. I just got it (thanks Bap!), so these are only initial impressions.

I set up three drippers, one with cotton, one with hemp and one with ramie. I am vaping a peppermint VG. It is a very interesting wick material. Very soft and probably the easier to work with. Here are my head to head comparison results. The cotton is the brightest on the mint note, but it tastes, cottony. The hemp is slightly woody but takes a beating from being fully saturated to telling me to to re-redrip. The ramie fully saturated is as bright as the cotton (maybe brighter?), but much brighter than hemp and no woody taste. The ramie does has a very slight taste, (hard to describe) but when compared to the cotton and hemp the undertone is noticeable, more so when doing a side by side comparison but not on its own. I did notice the Ramie was dropping off early in flavor than the hemp. I am not sure if its the relative amount of wick in the two drippers or if the ramie is slightly less absorbent. Not an issue, just need to re-drip and certainty not an issue for tank systems or BFers.

I then pushed the wicks a bit with power settings. Well we all know the negatives of cotton, so I put that aside and focused on the Ramie/Hemp comparison. Lower wattage (around 10-12 watts), both wicks performed well. Ramie vape was as even as the hemp. At higher wattage (~25 watts), I noticed the ramie recharge effect. So whats that you ask? Well at this point in the test, I needed to slow down vaping a bit so things didnt get fuzzy... What I noticed what was happening was that at lower watts, the ramie stayed consistent in wicking, (slight drop off in that uber brightness, then on par with the hemp.) At the higher wattage, the drop-off seemed to be happening much faster and the wick seemed to go dry a bit faster as well. So since I chaining vaping I decided to give it a rest and space out the comparison vapes. Now this was interesting. At the higher wattage ramie was no longer dropping off as fast. So while I tried to keep the variables the same (number of drops per atty, power, vape time, etc), it seemed that the ramie drop off was minimized with a longer rest. But this could just be a factor of the amount of wick material.

So overall Ramie is a winner on this initial test for me. Taste is superior and it certainly can take as much power as hemp. Next up is to wick it into a TGT for every day vaping. I assume that with a constant ejuice source, its going to shine. Thanks for finding this stuff.

 

[BJ43]

Thanks gdeal. I concur with your observations. The ramie is now my #1, sure would like to get some ramie fiber instead of the top and see if it improves more, like the hemp fiber did over the hemp top.

 

[ratchet62]

Thanks gdeal. I concur with your observations. The ramie is now my #1, sure would like to get some ramie fiber instead of the top and see if it improves more, like the hemp fiber did over the hemp top.

Uhm, what's the difference between top and fiber?

 

[BJ43]

Uhm, what's the difference between top and fiber?

Degummed fiber would be like the cotton in cotton balls. Top, the fibers are all combed out laying parallel to each other.

Degummed fiber:



Top:

 

[ratchet62]

Degummed fiber would be like the cotton in cotton balls. Top, the fibers are all combed out laying parallel to each other.

Degummed fiber:



Top:

OK got that. Why is fiber better than top? Seems having the strands already combed out and aligned would be easier to handle. My biggest complaint with the hemp fiber is the fact that I have to carefully extract the fibers from then tangled mess I got after washing. Then align and compress into a form I can put in the coil.

 

[BJ43]

For some reason on all my lab test with different wicks using the kerosine lamp test to measure wicking (capillary action), parallel fibers never wicked more than what you call a tangled mess. I agree easier to setup for wicks thru the coil but, the tangled mess is easier on the vertical nanos that you want the fiber packed around the outside of the coil. To each his own, just happy I found this new fiber. Besides its excellent wicking, it has a very clean taste. I still like the woody flavor of hemp with many of my tobacco DIY juice.

 

[ratchet62]

Thanks for the feedback BJ. I'll keep this in mind the next time I curse my tangled mess. LOL

 

[tiburonfirst]

Thanks for the feedback BJ. I'll keep this in mind the next time I curse my tangled mess. LOL

you can roll your tangled mess between your finger tips into strands quite easily

 

[mikepetro]

Did the hemp cloth ever show any real promise, other than for making a Tropical Suit?