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I just tried my first coil rebuild and used 1mm hemp. I noticed that the very center of the hemp is starting to scorch, which means the center is drying out. I added a short piece of 1mm on top of the coil, this helps feed the wick in the center. I get less "crackle" now. My next coil I'll add a piece on the bottom too. This is the coil I rebuilt.
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I just tried my first coil rebuild and used 1mm hemp. I noticed that the very center of the hemp is starting to scorch, which means the center is drying out. I added a short piece of 1mm on top of the coil, this helps feed the wick in the center. I get less "crackle" now. My next coil I'll add a piece on the bottom too. (...)
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Push over. You got a new hemp fanboi coming in. I tried the 1mm 7 strand hemp a while back when BJ first posted it the other thread. Well I didn't like it at all. Dry hits and nasty taste was enough for me and I went back to my favorite bamboo. Move ahead a month or so and I'm rebuilding my CE-5's one bamboo and one with the hemp. I untwisted the hemp into single threads and ran 5 threads through my 1mm coil. I put the same joose in both and tried em. The hemp still tasted yucky so I put it down on it's side and forgot about it. Sometime a few days later I got the bamboo wick and the hemp wick mixed up and started vaping the hemp. So I'm sitting thinking boy is this bamboo really tasting/vaping good. Then I look at the wick checking for discoloration and I notice it's not bamboo but Bobs your uncle. It's hemp. LOL
Iv'e been vaping on this puppy about 10 days and the performance is about the best iv'e ever had. So the long and short of it is by letting it soak in the joose for a time before you vape, its a winner. ;)
 

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I see your point, but then the vapor production wouldn't be satisfactory, I guess, because of the airflow (or lack thereof).
If anything the vapor production would increase, all of the coil would be covered with oil. A 'sleeve' could just be a single strand of hemp wrapped around on top of the coil/tank wick. Just the one piece of hemp wick that I laid on top of the coil delayed the crackle noise. This crackle noise is the wick overheating from starting to dry and what causes the wick failures in the first place. If anything covering the outside of the coil will increase wick life to months.

Ever since I started using a hemp wick my throat hurts pretty much all day.
 
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If anything the vapor production would increase, all of the coil would be covered with oil. A 'sleeve' could just be a single strand of hemp wrapped around on top of the coil/tank wick. Just the one piece of hemp wick that I laid on top of the coil delayed the crackle noise. This crackle noise is the wick overheating from starting to dry and what causes the wick failures in the first place. If anything covering the outside of the coil will increase wick life to months.

Hmm... is this speculation, or have you tried it? I don't know if you are correct or not, but I'd only suggest not overlooking the importance of good directed airflow should you find a way to give it a go. If I've learned anything, it's that there are more variables to getting a good vape than I expected.

Ever since I started using a hemp wick my throat hurts pretty much all day.

That stinks. Same result with other organic fibre wicks? What'd you use before? With me, silica irritates my throat (not horribly, but it's noticeable).
 

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If anything the vapor production would increase, all of the coil would be covered with oil. A 'sleeve' could just be a single strand of hemp wrapped around on top of the coil/tank wick. Just the one piece of hemp wick that I laid on top of the coil delayed the crackle noise. This crackle noise is the wick overheating from starting to dry and what causes the wick failures in the first place. If anything covering the outside of the coil will increase wick life to months.

Ever since I started using a hemp wick my throat hurts pretty much all day.

Just wondering if you're pushing the voltage/wattage too far... FWIW it went the other way around for me: silica made my throat sore, while hemp doesn't - as in wolcen's case.
 
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Iv'e been vaping on this puppy about 10 days and the performance is about the best iv'e ever had. So the long and short of it is by letting it soak in the joose for a time before you vape, its a winner. ;)

I'm going to try this. The only thing I don't like about using hemp wick is the break-in rope taste. I can tell it's time for me to build a new wick/coil and I'm dreading it. I have to force myself to vape through the first 1 to 2ml before I'm in heaven again. So I'm going to build a new one and let it sit in a capfull of my strongest flavored juice for a good 24 hours and see if it makes a difference for me.
 
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Hmm... is this speculation, or have you tried it? I don't know if you are correct or not, but I'd only suggest not overlooking the importance of good directed airflow should you find a way to give it a go. If I've learned anything, it's that there are more variables to getting a good vape than I expected. That stinks. Same result with other organic fibre wicks? What'd you use before? With me, silica irritates my throat (not horribly, but it's noticeable).

I have not tried the coil sleeve yet for two reasons; I only have one wick housing and I have issues trying to work on tiny objects. Interesting, you guys are open for new materials, but not a new design. Hemp is considered carcinogenic, cotton is not and cotton wicks better. A better coil design that will scorch cotton or hemp less will equal to a better vape and longer lasting wicks

I'm running 4.62 watts (calculated) on the hemp wick. Other wicks have been OEM parts, whatever is in them. I'm running aprox 30/70 P/V
 

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(...) Hemp is considered carcinogenic, cotton is not and cotton wicks better. (...)

I think that may be the case when directly smoked, but then it's the other hemp... the one we're using here as a wick is specifically grown for industrial use (........ sativa, not indica), and it's not good for 'other' purposes. Plus, we definitely don't smoke it :)
 

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I think that may be the case when directly smoked, but then it's the other hemp... the one we're using here as a wick is specifically grown for industrial use (........ sativa, not indica), and it's not good for 'other' purposes. Plus, we definitely don't smoke it :)

I agree, if any carcinogens are released it's when it's scorched. A sleeve might trap it though.

I wish my hands could do tiny things better. I think a sleeve would work better.
 

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I have not tried the coil sleeve yet for two reasons; I only have one wick housing and I have issues trying to work on tiny objects. Interesting, you guys are open for new materials, but not a new design. Hemp is considered carcinogenic, cotton is not and cotton wicks better. A better coil design that will scorch cotton or hemp less will equal to a better vape and longer lasting wicks

I'm running 4.62 watts (calculated) on the hemp wick. Other wicks have been OEM parts, whatever is in them. I'm running aprox 30/70 P/V

Not sure you are implying is not open minded about such things. In my response, I was merely pointing to a potential concern with the design. It may surprise you to hear I've considered exactly such a design myself (though I've not been motivated enough to try to build it - the main reason being I've found getting the coil TOO wet, which I think is likely here, is a very poor vape for me anyway). Rebuildables often provide airflow from the side, but there are plenty with airflow coming in directly beneath the wick - those might work very well with such a design with the coil mounted vertically and I'd be interested to hear your results if you can find someone to work with you on it.

May also surprise you to hear I use strictly cotton - it works well for me and I've been limiting my spending to the things I need to continue vaping. Hemp (even though it's cheap) just isn't one of them given I have something that works. Scorching of my wicks occurs, but very gradually so long as I pay attention to how dry my wick is gets.

Interesting, I just took apart a carto and found the coil with an interior wick and an outside sleeve. Looks like cartos are already using my idea. It's a bit disturbing the sleeve looks to be a piece of fiberglass braided tube.

Yep - some carto's do have that. I've also seen clearo's with that too, though the sleeve doesn't contact the coil in those (I don't recall the carto's exact design, which was damaged from pulling apart anyway). The one I have stiil has wicks through the coil. So I'm not sure if there the sleeve is acting as juice reserve, a juice flow barrier, or possibly to help channel air more directly over the coil? I'd guess it is woven silica but I have no idea.

In any case, sorry for yet more off topic remarks. I'll stop posting about wick design...unless I come up with a good new one, using hemp of course ;)
 

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I meant no offense, I get a little frustrated quickly, one reason I have issues with working on tiny things. Wick design should fit right into this thread since reduced wicking is one draw back of hemp wicks.

I see your too wet point, maybe adding hemp over and under the coil would be better. Just the hemp above the coil seems to have increased the vape. I have a 1-2 second draw time and in most videos I see people take 5-6 seconds for the same vape production.
 

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So just reporting back after trying the 24 hour soak in juice. It helped a little bit. Not much, but noticeable. I only had to vape about 1ml before it stopped tasting like I was chewing on a piece of rope like it was chewing gum. I wish I enjoyed the "earthy" taste like others do but I don't. Oh well maybe a longer soak next time. Performance wise it's still wicking like a beast.
 

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So just reporting back after trying the 24 hour soak in juice. It helped a little bit. Not much, but noticeable. I only had to vape about 1ml before it stopped tasting like I was chewing on a piece of rope like it was chewing gum. I wish I enjoyed the "earthy" taste like others do but I don't. Oh well maybe a longer soak next time. Performance wise it's still wicking like a beast.

Which hemp are you using?

I have tried hemp from Michaels and Hobby Lobby and both had a very earthy taste. I also recently got some 2mm from lovepedal and the place in canada that I haven't had a chance to try. That said I can't really say as to their earthy taste, but I can say that the all four hemp materials I have are different in their look, feel, etc.

The 2mm stuff I got from lovepedal was actually the 12 strand stuff but it is really rigged and the strands are really stuck together.

The stuff from canada seems to be in a class by itself. It is very soft, almost feels like cotton. The stands are loosely wrapped and the overall thread is softer and more pliable then the other hemp that has been boiled.
 

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Which hemp are you using?

I have tried hemp from Michaels and Hobby Lobby and both had a very earthy taste. I also recently got some 2mm from lovepedal and the place in canada that I haven't had a chance to try. That said I can't really say as to their earthy taste, but I can say that the all four hemp materials I have are different in their look, feel, etc.

The 2mm stuff I got from lovepedal was actually the 12 strand stuff but it is really rigged and the strands are really stuck together.

The stuff from canada seems to be in a class by itself. It is very soft, almost feels like cotton. The stands are loosely wrapped and the overall thread is softer and more pliable then the other hemp that has been boiled.

bapgood, can you post the link to the hemp from Canada for me.
I just got in the Lovepetal hemp (1mm) six strand. I boiled last night so waiting for it to dry and will try to use it in my IGO-L today. Anyone out there that has already used the hemp with an IGO-L I'd love your advice.
 
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