Ah gotcha that helps. I'll just pick up one to mess around I guess.
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Ditto. It has two smaller air holes per side where fogger has one. The single deck air hole is larger. Hasn't 'whistled' on me yet where the fogger has.
My first build floods and is leaky and thought I was using too much Rayon. I'll put more in on second build. But first thought is it has no problems pulling in the juice so I wouldn't drill it either. On my foggers I can increase juice flow by screwing the chimney onto the top cap first vice base during assembly as the chimneys are shorter by a mm or two than the allowable threaded inside distance between top cap and base. Some folks have dremeled their fogger juice channels. From what I am seeing, no need to do that on Kaiser.
The distance from side of chimney to inside of glass cylinder is about as small if not a tad smaller than the large deck fogger but since Kaiser is a top fill this proves to be far less of an issue for filling.
Only downside I am seeing so far to Kaiser is the small juice capacity but it is top fill which mitigates that. machining fit and finish typical of what I have seen on the foggers which could use improvement. Some may not like the hex head bolt look of the top cap cover and airflow control ring but sure does make it easier to function. Airflow control ring on Kaiser is tight as opposed to the loose Fogger one even on latest rev. There is an oring on Kaisers AFC. Fogger is embossed in the top cap, the Kaiser logo is embossed in the center but not the outside circle plus is painted or whatever where fogger is not.
I think you'll like it. If you're looking for an all day no refill vape tank this ain't it, will have to wait for the BIG Kaiser LOL. Other than that I like the improvements over the Fogger.
This was first build; layer of Rayon, coil, another layer of rayon. I stand a jewelers screwdriver in the center air hole to wrap the rayon around.
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Resulted in flooding and leaking so used same method on second build but used twice as much rayon and packed it in, tight actually. Thought it would be too much but not so, leaks are gone, slight flooding but you can blow to clear but not necessary, you can vape it off pretty quick.
The side slots on the Kaiser let a lot of juice in. I didn't pack Rayon in the slots.
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Chimney design is interesting to me. Wide for cup, narrows down then widens out at top then narrows down for drip tip hole.
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Pure speculation on my part but that may help the flavor. Regardless, loving the vape.
Even though it is top fill I use a syringe where on fogger I can get by with a dropper or juice bottle, needs a second port on top for air release to use a dropper or bottle.
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Resulted in flooding and leaking so used same method on second build but used twice as much rayon and packed it in, tight actually. Thought it would be too much but not so, leaks are gone, slight flooding but you can blow to clear but not necessary, you can vape it off pretty quick.
The side slots on the Kaiser let a lot of juice in. I didn't pack Rayon in the slots.
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Chimney design is interesting to me. Wide for cup, narrows down then widens out at top then narrows down for drip tip hole.
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Pure speculation on my part but that may help the flavor. Regardless, loving the vape.
Even though it is top fill I use a syringe where on fogger I can get by with a dropper or juice bottle, needs a second port on top for air release to use a dropper or bottle.
just got some 22ga kanthal in....im dying to try a single .3ohm 3/32 id coil in it....
i think dual 22ga coils might be stretching it a little....have to wait and see
i think dual 22ga coils might be stretching it a little....have to wait and see
No. This isn't an r-nr setup. The resistive wire only goes down about 10 to 15mm. The "Frankenstein" screws tighten above that, so you'll about the same ohm reading as the same coil screwed on a Kayfun or fogger.
I highly agree that there should be another hole in the top of the device to let air in when filling. I've been messing around with them for about four days now. I broke one of the ceramic prongs off of the cup accidently. I found it easier to set my wicks up on that broken side. Well, I snapped the other side off. I've been building with cotton (without the ceramic prongs) and have noticed much better wicking. It is also a lot easier to keep the cotton fibers out of the chimney's threads when building. So, the juice control is much smoother.
I've found the best way to use the juice control so far.
First, take off the drip tip and the top octagonal cap. Then, hold the glass and the bottom metal tank part securely with your thumb and finger so it won't move. Next, twist the top tank part clockwise to the right to loosen it just a bit. Finally, turn the chimney part. -When you are done, tighten the top tank part and it will lock the chimney in place. The entire process takes only a few seconds. --If anyone has a better way, I'm all ears. -One other thing I found out, is to replace that stupid looking top fill-screw with a M3 set-point screw. These are the ones used in the Russian 91% and most of the airflow adjustable Kayfun clones.
I also found out that you can use the Kaiser chimney, the Pyrex insert, the top steel tank part, the octagonal "spin-cap" and use these on the Fogger V4+ base to make a new device. -You need to use the V4+ (large base version) base and the very bottom piece that holds the glass tank. You also want to use the fogger's slightly larger o-rings in the top and the bottom.
It vapes similar to the Fogger V4plus, but the flavor is super intense. It is much smaller than both devices. I just need to figure out what to call my little monster.
I've found the best way to use the juice control so far.
First, take off the drip tip and the top octagonal cap. Then, hold the glass and the bottom metal tank part securely with your thumb and finger so it won't move. Next, twist the top tank part clockwise to the right to loosen it just a bit. Finally, turn the chimney part. -When you are done, tighten the top tank part and it will lock the chimney in place. The entire process takes only a few seconds. --If anyone has a better way, I'm all ears. -One other thing I found out, is to replace that stupid looking top fill-screw with a M3 set-point screw. These are the ones used in the Russian 91% and most of the airflow adjustable Kayfun clones.
I also found out that you can use the Kaiser chimney, the Pyrex insert, the top steel tank part, the octagonal "spin-cap" and use these on the Fogger V4+ base to make a new device. -You need to use the V4+ (large base version) base and the very bottom piece that holds the glass tank. You also want to use the fogger's slightly larger o-rings in the top and the bottom.
It vapes similar to the Fogger V4plus, but the flavor is super intense. It is much smaller than both devices. I just need to figure out what to call my little monster.
put in a 22ga .4ohm single last night......
i like it!.....hits alot quicker than in my drippers. great vapor...
im debating whether i like the 22ga single or 26ga dual coil...
still burns the hell out of the juice.....so you know its puttin out the vapor
i like it!.....hits alot quicker than in my drippers. great vapor...
im debating whether i like the 22ga single or 26ga dual coil...
still burns the hell out of the juice.....so you know its puttin out the vapor
nice to see Rose clones finally being made... now, I like the look of the rose clone better but, I like the idea of a glass tank in the Kaiser... hmm.
Any tips on how best to fill this thing without leaking??? Had juice pouring out the 510 any help would be appreciated
when you fill it make sure the needle or bottle tip is smaller than the fill hole, so air can escape. also, hold your finger over the air intake when filling it.
Thanks, I will use a smaller guage needle( should have figured that out lol) now I have to see if I can get a better build . I have dual coil 26 guage at .8, it's a new juice I got from halo and the th is kicking my aazz!!
Ditto. Block air intake on both sides. I use a needle bottle. The Kaiser is really flowing the juice for me even with tightly packed Rayon and a single ceramic donut build. It still floods a little on fill, I wrap a paper towel around it, hold it upside down and blow it out to clear.
This thing is really outperforming my standard size foggers and for me flowing a lot more juice. My BIG fogger with dual donuts is king though. Flows so much juice and vapor I am having to lower the nic content or take shorter fewer puffs.
I think there will be a BIG Kaiser that will hold a lot more juice and have dual top ports.
If it performs as well as the regular size Kaiser just on a larger scale, it may well be "my" fogger killer.I had issues with leaking through the airflow holes at first too. Now, when refilling, I make sure to close the juice control all the way back down (tighten down the chimney). Then, I cover up the airflow holes with the ring. I carry an 18 gauge needle (I think -pink color?) taped to the side of my 50ml blunt-nosed juice bottle. -I basically use the needle as a funnel. I place it in the fill hole so air can escape. Then take the blunt nosed bottle and press it tight to the top of the syringe needle and fill it that way. It's been working great for me and I don't have to carry around an entire syringe or a steel needle point bottle. I can fill it all the way to the top and not just above the chimney deck this way (3.5ml -give or take).
-Oh, I also replaced the top fill screw with an airflow screw from a Russian 91% (or side-airflow controlled Kayfun). The hex set point screw is about 5mm long. It sits down into the fill hole and doesn't interfere with the removal of the top third part of the tank. I tape the hex (L) driver to the side of my 50ml bottle as well. I've noticed the regular fill screw sometimes got caught on the threads when taking the device apart. It also looks better when you don't have the octagonal top "spinner cap" on.
Someone sent me an email saying they couldn't get the juice control to work. I thought I'd post it here as well. It's easy to figure out once you understand two quick things about the device.
1 -Don't screw the chimney down super tight when building the coil. ...just down until it stops at the bottom of it's threads.
2 -The top third of the outside tank (the one with the fill-screw) doesn't have to be tightened down very tight. It only has to be tightened down enough to seal the tank with it's o-ring." -Then, you just spin off the octagonal "spinner cap" and drip tip. You should be able to unscrew the chimney to adjust the juice control. If it still doesn't move, the chimney was screwed down too tight.
1 -Don't screw the chimney down super tight when building the coil. ...just down until it stops at the bottom of it's threads.
2 -The top third of the outside tank (the one with the fill-screw) doesn't have to be tightened down very tight. It only has to be tightened down enough to seal the tank with it's o-ring." -Then, you just spin off the octagonal "spinner cap" and drip tip. You should be able to unscrew the chimney to adjust the juice control. If it still doesn't move, the chimney was screwed down too tight.
I picked one up although I've never used a Rose. The way it is built was odd only for the way the coil posts were secured. Not ready for final judgment, but things I have noticed so far are that the draw seems a little tighter than the fogger, the vape seems pretty warm to me in comparison to the kayfun at similar power, taste is good and vapor production is very nice, though that is so closely related to airflow that I've reached the point where one answers the other for me. Aesthetically, it is subjectively a little odd to me. Filling takes a bit of finesse as others in here have described but primarily relies upon using a needle small enough so that air may escape back up out of the fill hole as you fill it. The overall quality of the devise is on par with that of the fogger in terms of machining and so forth.
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