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Kanger's New Head! NO BURNY GROMMETS!!

Discussion in 'Tanks, clearomizers and drop-in coils' started by Trayce, Oct 28, 2013.

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  1. magicmyst

    magicmyst Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 10, 2013
    Raleigh, NC
    I just got a look at one of these in a new EVOD. Can anyone point me to some good info on how to rebuild with no-resistance legs?
     
  2. Trayce

    Trayce Moved On ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2013
    Multiversal
  3. magicmyst

    magicmyst Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 10, 2013
    Raleigh, NC
    Thanks, Trayce. Yes, it was you're post where I first learned about the new heads/grommets. Got my first look at them today. I agree, it seems like a PITA to attach low res legs, especially since I'm getting good results with my rebuilds the old way, and yes, the new grommets are a big plus.
     
  4. Chinook

    Chinook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2013
    OR, USA
    Has anyone seen Kanger T2 heads with the new silicone grommets?

    Thanks...
     
  5. Trayce

    Trayce Moved On ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2013
    Multiversal
    Couple people have reported them in new devices they are buying but no word yet on spare part heads. Seems like it won't be advertised... like the current (old style) stock will just eventually be replaced with new stock as the old stuff sells through, but I'm just guessing. OTOH I'd think the new head will be more money as silicone is more expensive than rubber, and no-res legs add a few pennies too.... so maybe they won't make them available at all as spare parts until they are out of old stock, then the new heads will be more money. Again, just guessing. :)
     
  6. Chinook

    Chinook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2013
    OR, USA
    Thanks Trayce!

    By the way, are you back to enjoyable vaping without the off flavors?
     
  7. Trayce

    Trayce Moved On ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2013
    Multiversal
    Nope! Shelved the tanks back when we were writing last as the rubber grommets were releasing a bad taste no matter what I did. I do have some silicone tubing on the way which I hope to use in place of the rubber grommets. If it works my tanks will be back in rotation. :) Hope all is well on your end!
     
  8. vdaedalus

    vdaedalus Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Ottawa, Canada
    Are you going to carve a 'waist' out of the tubing to make grommets out of them? The stock grommets aren't simple cylinders, what are you planning?
     
  9. Chinook

    Chinook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2013
    OR, USA
    I hope the silicone tubing works well. I know how frustrating it is...I almost went insane here during that time. Now I inspect every coil head after soaking and dry burning it. I realign the coils wraps if necessary. I guess the rubber in my heads are OK for now. But who knows they might still be giving some off flavors. I'm eventually thinking about completely rebuilding them with cotton wicks. I'll do that though if I can get silicone tubing that can replace the rubber grommets. Thanks to you :) There must be lot of different sized tubes there. I hope you can find something that can fit...
     
  10. Trayce

    Trayce Moved On ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2013
    Multiversal
    Yeah, the insulator has a small top collar and a thicker one on the bottom. I already know the top one isn't necessary b/c one of the fixes people use to eliminate grommet burn is to slice off the top collar, and I tried that and the thing still functioned fine, but I could still taste the rubber.

    As for the bottom collar, I have to see how the tubing fits inside the head before I can see if I even need a plan. :D It might work fine to just cut a length of tube the same length as the grommet and insert it in the same way. The positive post head might spread the soft silicone at the bottom just fine, forming a natural bottom collar. Or, if not, I might be able to leave it a tad longer than the stock rubber grommet and put a tiny vertical cut [or cuts] into the bottom of the tubing so that it flares when the pin head is inserted, with the cuts not extending up to where the base of the head is, so that the fully inserted pin cannot make contact with the head housing, even with those cuts.

    I am an optimist and hoping I can just cut it the same length and insert it the same way. We'll see. It won't arrive for a few days. The ID was listed as 3/32 or 2.3mm which should be good, but the OD of the tubing was not listed (it's used for beer brewing). I am assuming it's 5/32s, which is standard for that ID and pretty close if not exactly the size of the post insulator, if I am not mistaken.
     
  11. Trayce

    Trayce Moved On ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2013
    Multiversal
    LOL, yeah I became almost paranoid... like after that burny grommet flavor started every time I took a vape it was like sipping milk from an old carton waiting to see if it was sour!! :D That took all the fun out of it!! Especially since it WAS "sour"!! That's one reason I just put it all away and got out the dripper -- didn't want to ruin vaping for myself.

    Well, I vaped my tanks for a over a month with no problems whatsoever... so hopefully you'll be fine. I even went on a thread here somewhere during that time where people were saying they ONLY used their drippers b/c tanks had such a horrid rubber grommet taste, and I said my PT2 and Aro head was a great vape, as good as my dripper! Then two weeks later I was saying just what they had been saying! LOL!

    It isn't thanks to me! I didn't think of it. :) I saw someone else tried some tubing here (darn forget his name but might have been in our original thread) but his tubing was the wrong size. I looked all over at places that sell silicone tubing but couldn't find the right size. Then the other day I was reading another forum and someone said they lost their grommet, and a member suggested hobby aircraft fuel line. I looked that up and it was the right size but it had a cancer-causing warning, so was not medical/food grade silicone. So I looked for medical/food grade and found it on eBay for beer making. 3 32" I D Silicone Tubing Temperature Rated to 500F | eBay Will report back if it works or not.

    Continued good luck to your flavorful vaping! :)
     
  12. Chinook

    Chinook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2013
    OR, USA
  13. Chinook

    Chinook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2013
    OR, USA
    Thanks, you too! Hopefully you'll get your tanks back in action :)

    I think I have a decent batch of heads now. When they are gone, if I don't rebuild them, then it'll be rubber gamble with the new heads again!

    Thanks for that link too... I'm crossing my fingers for you :)
     
  14. Trayce

    Trayce Moved On ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2013
    Multiversal
    Hey thanks for that, Chinook! And hopefully by the time you need heads you'll get the new ones! :)
     
  15. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2013
    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    LOL I resemble you! My taste buds are so "on" I could taste milk going sour days out before I quit smoking. Same thing with rust and vegetables. PIA going to a restaurant now.

    All science is observation and repetition. Good job guy. Do keep us/me posted…please. Also on the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/486794-protank-microcoil-discussion.html thread would be helpful. Or, I'll post a link to yours once you've tested. It also occurs to me that this silicone tubing might be worth a try on the Ody's in lieu of the persnickety non-res wire and to shorten wick installs. Need to take one apart and mic the channels.

    Thanks Trayce.

    Good luck!

    :)
     
  16. Trayce

    Trayce Moved On ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2013
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  17. JamezC

    JamezC Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2013
    Arkansas
    I've been rebuilding my bcc's for awhile now and recently I've been experiencing the burning rubber grommet taste as well. I'm so excited to see this! I've been leaning away from buying more clearomizers and going into RBA's but with this (and the method look30 described) I may just pull the trigger on buying some of the newer Glassomizers! Thanks for the info :D
     
  18. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2013
    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    As every good "tit" deserves a "tat", so I thought I'd return the favor…I picked up today that Lightning Vapes (on eBay as well) has these replacement grommets for the Protank's, etc. Don't know if this is elsewhere on the board but...

    Resistance Coil Insulator 10 Pack (CE Type Atty's, eg. Protank, Evod,T - Lightning Vapes

    I don't know if they're better than the originals, the new silicone jobbers or just another Easter egg hunt but at least they'll get us past the memory of all the burnt, cutup newb moments still disparaging our taste buds. I hate to throw out all those old assemblies for lack of a proper insulator.

    So I'll get around to ordering some and let y'all know.

    Wish me luck!

    :)
     
  19. Mrs C

    Mrs C Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 27, 2013
    Indiana
    I got some of ones from LV the other day. They are no different in fit from the oem. I haven't noticed any difference in flavor either. :)
     
  20. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2013
    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    And good too know. They lookin' kinda farky, if you know what I mean. Thanks beaucoup Mrs. C!

    :)
     
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