Kayfun lite plus black clone edition

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f1vefour

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The tobeco v2 clone is the same thing as the black edition. Except the black edition comes in a fancy box.

If u want a real kfl+ u can get it from intaste.de and have it within a week for $109 shipped

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I don't see a US shipping option on intaste?
 

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Just fill out the shipping info.. They ship to US. I went through the whole checkout process until I had to confirm payment on PayPal. They take off VAT when shipped outside of Europe. People say they ship with FedEx and get it like in 4-5 days and they aren't subjected to weekends until it gets to the US.

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So, it looks like I screwed up ordering that kayfun Lite Plus that has 4 juice channels in the base vs just 2 like all the rest of them?

Kayfun Lite Plus Rebuildable Tank Atomizer Kit | eBay

I wonder who actually makes this one? ... Seems like every other one I have ever seen has but only 2 channels.

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If feel like the only way it wouldn't flood, would be if:

1) you shove a shiiitload of wicking material....

2) if the juice channels were actually deep enough, i.e. like in the aqua, where the juice channels were made specifically so that you can shove the wicks in and kinda use it as a stopper to prevent flood too
 

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Probably better to read others opinions on products they actually Own than take off the cuff remarks as Gospel.

Yes Tobeco Has released some genuine Junk, but so has Sigelei and several other China Manufacturers.
Even if you get a Well recommended device from a manufacturer with a Good Reputation, you can still get the Dog that Got out.
Yes, the KFL+ Black Edition is a Tobaco product.........With Modifications.
This Special order Release Far out stripped any Kayfun Release Tobaco attempted Previously and is an EXCELLENT Performing and Nice looking Device.
The new Tobeco - KFL+ Silver Edition is a direct 1:1 copy of the Black Edition and offers all the Updates.

People keep saying the Center pin is an Air restriction. I'll argue that point.
The Air hole(s) in the Center pin are MUCH larger than the Air channel coming in from the side of the Base.
The Chamber around the Air holes is larger than the Center Channel opening and allows room for much more than is necessary.
The side air passage is drilled High and above the 510 Grommet.

I have to wonder if people making these claims actually disassembled their units to clean properly. Some may not even own one.

Want more air flow - First thing to do is REPLACE that Crappy Drip Tip with something that is open.
Running wide bore tips on both of mine with plenty of flow.
Step 2 - get the wick up off the deck - not overly high but at least 1-1.5mm and make sure air can flow around both sides of the coil.

Whether dealing with Tobeco, EHPro, HCigar or any other manufacturer - Base your Purchase on consistent reviews by previous purchasers of That particular Device.
 

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Probably better to read others opinions on products they actually Own than take off the cuff remarks as Gospel.

Yes Tobeco Has released some genuine Junk, but so has Sigelei and several other China Manufacturers.
Even if you get a Well recommended device from a manufacturer with a Good Reputation, you can still get the Dog that Got out.
Yes, the KFL+ Black Edition is a Tobaco product.........With Modifications.
This Special order Release Far out stripped any Kayfun Release Tobaco attempted Previously and is an EXCELLENT Performing and Nice looking Device.
The new Tobeco - KFL+ Silver Edition is a direct 1:1 copy of the Black Edition and offers all the Updates.

People keep saying the Center pin is an Air restriction. I'll argue that point.
The Air hole(s) in the Center pin are MUCH larger than the Air channel coming in from the side of the Base.
The Chamber around the Air holes is larger than the Center Channel opening and allows room for much more than is necessary.
The side air passage is drilled High and above the 510 Grommet.

I have to wonder if people making these claims actually disassembled their units to clean properly. Some may not even own one.

Want more air flow - First thing to do is REPLACE that Crappy Drip Tip with something that is open.
Running wide bore tips on both of mine with plenty of flow.
Step 2 - get the wick up off the deck - not overly high but at least 1-1.5mm and make sure air can flow around both sides of the coil.

Whether dealing with Tobeco, EHPro, HCigar or any other manufacturer - Base your Purchase on consistent reviews by previous purchasers of That particular Device.

So it's a clone of a clone right.
 

Otherbarry92

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Probably better to read others opinions on products they actually Own than take off the cuff remarks as Gospel.

Yes Tobeco Has released some genuine Junk, but so has Sigelei and several other China Manufacturers.
Even if you get a Well recommended device from a manufacturer with a Good Reputation, you can still get the Dog that Got out.
Yes, the KFL+ Black Edition is a Tobaco product.........With Modifications.
This Special order Release Far out stripped any Kayfun Release Tobaco attempted Previously and is an EXCELLENT Performing and Nice looking Device.
The new Tobeco - KFL+ Silver Edition is a direct 1:1 copy of the Black Edition and offers all the Updates.

People keep saying the Center pin is an Air restriction. I'll argue that point.
The Air hole(s) in the Center pin are MUCH larger than the Air channel coming in from the side of the Base.
The Chamber around the Air holes is larger than the Center Channel opening and allows room for much more than is necessary.
The side air passage is drilled High and above the 510 Grommet.

I have to wonder if people making these claims actually disassembled their units to clean properly. Some may not even own one.

Want more air flow - First thing to do is REPLACE that Crappy Drip Tip with something that is open.
Running wide bore tips on both of mine with plenty of flow.
Step 2 - get the wick up off the deck - not overly high but at least 1-1.5mm and make sure air can flow around both sides of the coil.

Whether dealing with Tobeco, EHPro, HCigar or any other manufacturer - Base your Purchase on consistent reviews by previous purchasers of That particular Device.

Can't agree more, tobeco's new kayfun lite clones seem to be just as good if not better than other clones and originals. The only issue I had with mine were shallow channels, which were fixed in a couple of minutes.

Airflow isn't an issue with the new tobeco's. The bottleneck for airflow is the inside diameter of the center post, which is large enough for adequate airflow.

As has been stated many times before, if you open up airflow too much you will lose the required negative pressure created when you take a draw. This will give you dry hits. On the other end of the spectrum is too tight of a draw, pulling juice into the wick area faster than your coil can vaporize it, leading to flooding.

Kayfun's were never designed to be wide open cloud chaser devices, the focus from the beginning was flavor.

That being said: I've drilled out my airhole to 2mm, counter-sunk it with a cone shaped diamond dremel bit to eliminate whistle, swapped the drip tip for my pulse-g drip tip (so sexy), trimmed the lower center isolator, enlarged the lower center-pin air passage to an oval shape (again with beveled edges with the diamond bit), deepened the channels like mad, and even drilled out one of the inner 510 airflow holes in my nemesis clone. With the airflow screw out, I get more airflow through the nemesis 510 airflow holes.

With a 1.1ohm 28g microcoil and cotton I'm getting just the right amount of wicking, no flooding, and borderline too much vapor and TH.

**anyone know how I can quote with a spoiler so that a long quoted post doesn't take up so much room? :facepalm:**
 

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Haw. Got my black edition clone today. First impressions: the build is top notch. I have 4 authentic kfl and 3 r91, and the build is pretty much comparable. Threads are buttery smooth, although I learnt the hard way that they are EXTREMELY sharp. I was washing it out with soap using my index finger and thumb to pinch the thread and give it a rub: cut 3 slits into my thumb. So definitely watch out for that.

Air flow on an unbuilt tank straight from the flow is OH THANK GOD, very very ample. Nowhere close to that overly tight draw from the first few tobeco releases. However, I found the air flow control to be completely useless: the air flow is identical no matter how far in the screw is.

Juice channel is DEFINITELY noticeably shallower than the authentic ones. No doubt about it. But whether that makes a difference or not, we will hafta see once I'm done washing. Which brings me to my next point


Last thing: WASH, SOAP AND SOAK the crap outta it in boiling water. Trust me. The thing stinks like machine oil when I was sucking on it brand new. I personally boil some water, completely disassemble it, add a lot of dish washing soap and let it soak for 10 mins. And repeat. Also for the first time I decided to use a cotton bud to just rub out every single channel/slots. It was NASTY. My qtip was a significantly shade of gray. Thank god I did that. Anyways I'm waiting for my second soak cycle, got my coils done. Can't wait to vape on it and see how it goes.


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Just got a message from the seller "sleepyhollowvapes" on eBay the one selling the "Black Russians" he said he was expecting the updated versions this week but won't prob be in until Wednesday of next week. Just a heads up!

I had had also emailed him about the changes he's making to the Black Russians. This was his reply:
Yes. They are going to have improvements. I've changed a couple things. Since they are still being made, I'm reluctant to mention anything until they send me the final product pictures. They've had a delay and they haven't told me much more than that. So, I want to wait until they are all fabriicated and then post the differences.

Curious to know the details. :)
 

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Speaking of that air hole on the outside of the base with the little adjustment screw in it ... I have screwed it in all the way, and out almost all the way , and I can't see any difference in the draw.

What the hell is that little screw supposed to do anyway?
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Oh ya ... and there is also an even smaller hole on the outside of the base (too small to even have a screw in it) .... What's that little hole for?


1 larger hole (with screw) and 1 small hole (without screw)
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